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2024-25 Performances


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Because teams that play good percentage of long passes are generally shite teams?

Team with most successfull long passes per game in PL this season(whoscored):
1. Everton
2. Man United
3. Bournemouth
4. Tottenham
5. Southampton

Can you read anything from these names being at the top of this table?
But the top five players with most long passes completed are from Chelsea, us, Newcastle and west ham. It's almost like quoting the top five teams to play long balls is totally disconnected from the most accurate long ball individuals...
 
But the top five players with most long passes completed are from Chelsea, us, Newcastle and west ham. It's almost like quoting the top five teams to play long balls is totally disconnected from the most accurate long ball individuals...

So two shite teams, and two good-ish teams thag don't play great football either. Also the bolded part is exactly what I am talking about, it tells us absolutely nothing except that it's almost exclusive to the teams that are generally not great at football.
 
So two shite teams, and two good-ish teams thag don't play great football either. Also the bolded part is exactly what I am talking about, it tells us absolutely nothing except that it's almost exclusive to the teams that are generally not great at football.
It also tells us that Bruno is an accurate long passer...
 
It also tells us that Bruno is an accurate long passer...

He is leading the table by most inaccurate long passes too, so I am not sure how that is entirely true either.
 
He is leading the table by most inaccurate long passes too, so I am not sure how that is entirely true either.
You've changed your tune from a couple of days ago...
Well if that's what you have concluded from this then I applaud you, because no one said bad word about Bruno and his style of football, but rather talking about the team's style of play team that finished 16th.
Now that you've mentioned Bruno has more inaccurate long passes than anyone, I'll suggest the alternative: replace him with a safe passer who creates very few chances and watch us finish even lower than 16th under Amorim.
 
You've changed your tune from a couple of days ago...

Now that you've mentioned Bruno has more inaccurate long passes than anyone, I'll suggest the alternative: replace him with a safe passer who creates very few chances and watch us finish even lower than 16th under Amorim.

If 3 different people quote me with different arguments and topics of course the course of conversation might change. That's not called changing the tune, changing the tune means that I am changing my opinions which I am not.

I also don't see where I said that we should change Bruno or something, why are you saying that?
 
If 3 different people quote me with different arguments and topics of course the course of conversation might change. That's not called changing the tune, changing the tune means that I am changing my opinions which I am not.

I also don't see where I said that we should change Bruno or something, why are you saying that?
Because you're unimpressed with stats on long passes completed and seemingly think all of our midfielders should do more shorter passes, which would imply replacing Bruno with someone who doesn't attempt as many long passes.
 
Because you're unimpressed with stats on long passes completed and seemingly think all of our midfielders should do more shorter passes, which would imply replacing Bruno with someone who doesn't attempt as many long passes.

How did you conclude that, when I literally repeated few times that our style of play is the real reason behind long passes, and not individuals?
 
How did you conclude that, when I literally repeated few times that our style of play is the real reason behind long passes, and not individuals?
Fair enough if that's your conclusion. A theme I've seen from a lot of games under Amorim is possession without purpose, and thankfully Bruno is one of the only players who does something different than looking for the safe pass every time. Whether that's because his teammates are lacking the confidence to take more risks, or because they're under instruction from Amorim to keep it safe and avoid quick transitions, I'm not sure.
 
Whoscored, premierleague, player statistics, detailed, passes, change from per game to total.
TAA and Porro have more and that's just on a quick glance, excluding keepers obviously. So you think TAA is an accurate long passer?
 
TAA and Porro have more and that's just on a quick glance, excluding keepers obviously. So you think TAA is an accurate long passer?

Initial tweet says "midfielders".
 


Just mental stats... how I wish we can win something big with him in the team. CL or PL... would be perfect for his MU legacy.
 


Just mental stats... how I wish we can win something big with him in the team. CL or PL... would be perfect for his MU legacy.


Interesting that a player with no technique and treats the ball as hot potato can feature in a list with some top midfielders.
 
Something to do with penalties, because of course Lampard and Gerrard didn't take many penalties.

Oh yes, I forgot about that..

Interestingly, most united fans who moan at DDG is about his penalty in the final and his poor penalty record....

the same United fans also moan about Brunos good penalty record :lol:
 
Something to do with penalties, because of course Lampard and Gerrard didn't take many penalties.
Who said he isn't at least as good as those two?

If anything, there are a bunch of posts here mentioning that he's basically to us what Gerrard was to them in those seasons. The only thing missing for Bruno in that comparison is a defining performance in a European final and there's still time to correct that.
 
Who said he isn't at least as good as those two?

If anything, there are a bunch of posts here mentioning that he's basically to us what Gerrard was to them in those seasons. The only thing missing for Bruno in that comparison is a defining performance in a European final and there's still time to correct that.
I'd argue that if he stays this good for another couple of years then there will be genuine debates about Bruno vs Gerrard. Currently I think the Gerrard comparisons stem more from him being a world class player and captain surrounded by dross teammates.
 
Because teams that play good percentage of long passes are generally shite teams?

Team with most successfull long passes per game in PL this season(whoscored):
1. Everton
2. Man United
3. Bournemouth
4. Tottenham
5. Southampton

Can you read anything from these names being at the top of this table?

Dunno where Whoscored are getting that, see completed long passes per 90 from Fbref here:

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It's a mix, because obviously this is one single stat amongst hundreds that capture how a team plays. But you'll see Liverpool, Chelsea, Brentford, Brighton all up there. Completing long passes is not a bad thing.
 
Dunno where Whoscored are getting that, see completed long passes per 90 from Fbref here:

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It's a mix, because obviously this is one single stat amongst hundreds that capture how a team plays. But you'll see Liverpool, Chelsea, Brentford, Brighton all up there. Completing long passes is not a bad thing.
It was a key feature of Klopp's 'heavy metal' football. Maybe I'm out of the loop but is that not deemed to be a style of play that reaps rewards anymore?
 
This is from 24/25. Slot, not Klopp.
I know. I'd imagine Liverpool completed even more long passes per season under Klopp and achieved pretty high points totals because of it. Slot's style of play isn't quite as 'heavy metal' as Klopp's and yet they're still doing a relatively high number of completed long passes, so I agree with your point that completing long passes is not a bad thing
 
Well he's going to be playing in midfield from now on. Maybe we'll see this again


He’s so incredible he can change his shirt number from 52 to 8 just by spinning around to celebrate.

Also the goal looks like a night match but the celebration is in daytime. He really is a magician.
 
He’s so incredible he can change his shirt number from 52 to 8 just by spinning around to celebrate.

Also the goal looks like a night match but the celebration is in daytime. He really is a magician.
Shite, looked too good to be true:lol:
 
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