Bruno‘s only rival in the PL was De Bruyne, and he has surpassed him. He‘s no.1 in Goals and Assists as a midfielder.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
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- Goals
- 5
- Assists
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- Yellow cards
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In the latest edition of the United Hour Podcast, we interview Duncan Drasdo of MUST - covering ticket prices, new stadium, INEOS and what fans should be demanding from our club.
Also, due to technical issues we couldn't put a notice up for the previous episode which was about the game against Bournemouth and other stuff. If you'd like to listen to it, click here.
I have no stake in this, but tbh he clearly is not wumming and the only thing I have seen here being "disingenuous and fatuous" is writing stuff like this.
I've always loved Bruno, but it is true that he has had a couple of below average years for us quite recently, before a proper return to old form this season in particular. That would be strange to deny imo.
Such a Bruno is still pretty good mind!
This whole pulling stats argument is trash.
Garnacho has double the goal contributions as Amad in similar minutes, but there’s not a single united or Chelsea fan who would say Garnacho is better.
We are lucky to have Bruno. For my money he’s this generations Robson and I pray he gets his title.
Garnacho has double the goal contributions as Amad in similar minutes, but there’s not a single united or Chelsea fan who would say Garnacho is better.
We are lucky to have Bruno. For my money he’s this generations Robson and I pray he gets his title.
Never sell a player at the peak of his career. Do it like how Real Madrid did it to their previous galactico. When there are signs of decline and usually that is followed by the player looking at other opportunities then we can sell.
In the case of Bruno he is at the peak of his output, very rarely injured (almost never injured!), can run for 90 mins non stop, and is content with staying. Nothing about him that suggests we should sell. Its not only about the money but the overall impact to the club and the message you send to other players.
And yes we can still fetch good value selling a plager even if the player is on a decline as long as hes quality. So no need to rush.
In the case of Bruno he is at the peak of his output, very rarely injured (almost never injured!), can run for 90 mins non stop, and is content with staying. Nothing about him that suggests we should sell. Its not only about the money but the overall impact to the club and the message you send to other players.
And yes we can still fetch good value selling a plager even if the player is on a decline as long as hes quality. So no need to rush.
Absolutely not the case. He's been one of our top three performers since he's arrived each season. That would be strange to deny imo.
Edit: and also the poster was wumming, in my opinion. As evidenced by the provocative use of the smiley at the end of posts.
It's hilarious that player of the month awards are used to argue how consistent or inconsistent a player is, go and check how many player of the month awards KdB won, must be some average spammer.
It would be hilarious if that's all I'd used but I think we can both agree I've done a bit more than that.
G+A/90
19-20 1.14
20-21 0.87
21-22 0.46
22-23 0.43
23-24 0.52
24-25 0.54
25-26 0.89
I was told 0.43 was good so I showed where that led to on the GA charts and average players that outperformed it.
I was told nobody would be consistent at this over multiple seasons so I found Kevin de Bruyne.
I was told that's not fair because De Bruyne played in a great team and Bruno has played with rubbish, so I found a player playing deeper in the same team that outperformed Bruno over the course of a season.
So I've been called fatuos and a wummer and boring because people can't accept a good argument against Bruno.
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It's not a good argument though.
De Bruyne put up his numbers playing in a cheat team and with Haaland as a striker.
Until Haaland came, Bruno had more g+a per 90 than De Bruyne. That does not fit your narrative does it?
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I don't agree with the poster but this is equally as silly as his arguments.
De Bruyne didn't take penalties for City, and Haaland is the striker that has missed most big chances by quite a distance since his arrival, so you could argue de Bruyne should have a lot more assists as well. So yeah, not really a good argument.
While that is true, according to our friend only g+a per 90 count. So I‘m using that against his argument.
Doesn't this just show that he gets more chances though? In large part because he played in a much better, much more functional team. Also, Haaland bagging a lot of big chances that he missed doesn't equate 1:1 with KDB getting more assists. There were other players supplying him. You can also cut it the other way: KDB was allowed to get so many assists because Haaland has elite movement and physical attributes.
I think we've gone back and forth with this a couple times, maybe not with you specifically but I have with some other posters, but you could also argue it's more difficult to create because most teams playing against that City team were defending and playing lowblocks, as opposed to teams against us who have been attacking us like crazy because we're so easy to cut through, opening much more space for Bruno to create chances. I think it evens itself out, and the argument that KDB is only better because he played in a better team is given far too much weight in the debate between the two players.
Good argument against Bruno? Using G+A which is anyways good for Bruno and ignoring chance creation stat for attacking midfielder who is known for creating chances. Sure, good argument.
But that argument would be flying in the face of all available evidence. City have regularly topped the goal scoring charts over the years. To argue that better teams find it more difficult to score goals because they're better is quite some form of mental gymnastics. And the point about being able to frame it the other way - KDB benefited from Haaland's elite movement and physical attributes - still stands.
I don't mean that they're having more difficulty to create chances as a team, but it's harder for one player to keep up with individual chance creation when the burden is divided as much as it was in that City team and the opponent teams are playing lowblocks, whereas one player in another team is primarily given the freedom to do it, with much more space to play balls into.
And yes, he has absolutely benefitted from Haaland's movement, but let's not pretend like he hasn't been doing this since his Wolfsburg days.
Come on now, let's not pretend that kdb wasn't city's creative fulcrum.
I totally agree that kdb was an unbelievable player btw and would have him right up there. I personally find them very hard to separate - both incredible creators. I just think KDB benefits from playing in the team he played in.
Yeah but if Bruno was so good why didn't other big clubs come in for him ?
This will be the next argument I imagine.
This will be the next argument I imagine.
I think we should all agree Bruno has been a consistent elite chance creator. The stats back that up and arguing otherwise is just silly.
You've just confirmed you don't watch our games. Vast majority of our opponents have played low block against us in the PL.
Barcelona were sniffing around him if I remember rightly.
For me Bruno is the tier just above KDB…Slightly better than Rooney, just below Ronaldo and Henry.
GOAT.
GOAT.
Not at all. We get pressed more often than not.
Best player in the league this season and we still have fans breathlessly trying to downplay him and knock him down a peg, our fans will never change 
He’s been great since Amorim left. Of course that’s down to him no longer playing in cm , but also as a 10 he’s much more controlled makes killer passes.
Yikes
I hate to tell you this but De Bruyne had his 6 amazing years before Haaland arrived
The 2nd point is just plain wrong and I'll prove it if you like. I'm guessing you won't like it though.
Impossible to take this post seriously. Being so confidently incorrect.. fascinating how you even got to this conclusion, especially when you can see how many goals we've conceded over the last seasons.
It‘s true for 2 out of 3 years. I forgot about 21/22 (an absolute dismal year for MU).
Is this what “no game insanity” looks like?
Bruno I agree he is better than KDB, but Rooney? Rooney was the best premier league player in my opinion.
Love Bruno though, and he is a legend for me
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Year. KDB Bruno
15 16 0.72.
16 17 0.72
17 18 0.70
18 19 0.37
19 20 1.06. 1.14
20 21 0.81. 0.87
21 22 0.94. 0.46
22 23 0.86. 0.43. Haaland joins here
23 24 1.03. 0.52
For some reason Bruno was able to match and better KDB in his first season and a half despite playing with lesser players.
Then his stats dipped in half completely unrelated to his form but just because he was playing with lesser players, despite them being largely the same players he was with since he joined.
I'm delighted he's regained his top level and am genuinely impressed he's done it at this age, but the revisionism, sneering, chuckling and general smugness has to he countered.
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You can‘t form a complete picture from one combined stat, which you have done. This is the reason you are getting so much pushback.Year. KDB Bruno
15 16 0.72.
16 17 0.72
17 18 0.70
18 19 0.37
19 20 1.06. 1.14
20 21 0.81. 0.87
21 22 0.94. 0.46
22 23 0.86. 0.43. Haaland joins here
23 24 1.03. 0.52
For some reason Bruno was able to match and better KDB in his first season and a half despite playing with lesser players.
Then his stats dipped in half completely unrelated to his form but just because he was playing with lesser players, despite them being largely the same players he was with since he joined.
I'm delighted he's regained his top level and am genuinely impressed he's done it at this age, but the revisionism, sneering, chuckling and general smugness has to he countered.
You have also compared Bruno to wingers and strikers which makes no sense.
When you look at chance creation the picture looks a lot different. You already have mentioned Bruno plays in a lesser squad.
We have better attackers this year which is pushing Bruno‘s g+a number upwards. Not surprising.
We haven‘t even looked at Bruno‘s defensive stats, which makes his chance creation stand out even more as special.
It's a highly suspect stat. For instance the year Bruno and Eriksen had 8 assists each, Eriksen with fewer minutes and playing deeper btw, Bruno was top of the big chances created list, but Eriksen was nowhere to be seen. The list went down to 9 big chances created, but Christian Eriksen wasn't there. Are we to believe that Bruno made 32 big chances and 8 led to assists whereas Eriksen made 8 or fewer and managed to get 8 assists?
It's a very dodgy stat
None of our attackers are in double digits though so it's not like we can point to a better finisher really. Sesko, Amad, Mbuemo and Cunha have 27 goals between them.
I do agree they're better but I just think Bruno has upped his overall game since he was put in the 2 in midfield.
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He's got future manager written all over him.
Leads by example. Such an asset to the club.
If only he was more consistent. We should have sold him last season, right?
If it was upto redcafe we’d be buying a whole new team every summer.
Absolutely. Who does he think he is, just spamming young players with questions like some kind of headless chicken.