I wouldn’t have any two of Fernandes, Maddison, Rooney, Mkhitaryan, Mata, etc in a three man midfield - exclusively no.10/ advanced midfielder types. Pogba doesn’t quite fit in that category though - even if, yes, the ideal involves him as the left-sided no.8 with the most freedom to empty the midfield, drive forward and join the attack, with his two accompanying midfielders having the qualities to facilitate that. It doesn’t mean that’s the only acceptable way to utilise him, as he can also function in, and bring a lot of the same qualities to, the link/ box to box/ no.8 role that the likes of Scholes, Xavi, Sahin, Gundogan, Verratti, Rabiot or Dembele do/ did. In a similar way to how Modric is a natural deeper midfield player, but can operate in a no.10 position to a high level. Or the difference between Vieira being partnered with Gilberto Silva compared to Edu for Arsenal - the former freed him up more to go box to box and show his full array of abilities, but there was absolutely nothing wrong with what you got from him or the pairing when played with the later.
Bruno Fernandes | United not interested due to doubts over passing ability
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The Sporting fans here seem quite adamant on having him high up the park for him to be effective.
United truly suck at transfers right now, but I'll never understand how people seriously think the above is the case. It make no fecking sense.
Me too, but my reasoning is that they unfortunately have a well running machine at this point in time. Major spending is more likely to derail a team at their stage. Hopefully there is some pressure from their US owners to invest and that introduces some instability.
May be they'd be interested in bringing Sanchez in for squad-depth? Robbing the biggest star with biggest salary from Manchester United, their greatest rival would be satisfying, yeah?
Think we're still looking for an attacking player, and ideally one that can play as a 10cum8 as well as up front.
I agree it makes no sense.
I can't see how a transfer takes so long for one player to be signed, negotiations don't have to take weeks on end.
And I can't see how multiple players can't be worked on simultaneously.
But the evidence (press rumours) is strongly hinting that this is what's occurring.
At first glance this sounds ridiculous given the opinion (that I too shared) on Rooney in his latter years but its completely true.
Im still baffled how Ed would even take a holiday in this period of the year... Surely the role which he unfortunately holds at the moment with dealing with transfers is most important from june-aug surely? Why he would take time off in this period is beyond me. I understand he has commercial responsibilities during the season however having a week or two holiday during the season is likely to be less detrimental than in the summer period....?
Even the portuguese press who likes to make up tons of stories barely mentions Liverpool as one the clubs interested.
I'm quite surprised to see Sporting interested in Rafael Camacho. Sure, a raw talent but he doesn't seem top player material to me. Probably a deal that Camacho goes to Sporting almost for free and Liverpool will include a buyback clause + X% on next sale. Pretty much like Real Madrid does when selling their young players.
Klopp rates Camacho and wanted him to compete with Alexander-Arnold but Camacho doesn't want to play right back!
FFS 
In fairness he could have totally made that up or embellished the details. Can't really blame him for going to Liverpool over us though.
In fairness he could have totally made that up or embellished the details. Can't really blame him for going to Liverpool over us though.
Fernandes wants to leave. He as stated that even joining Inter would be nice because "they have one of the best coaches in the world". That man might be telling the truth but it doesn't mean that Fernandes prioritizes Liverpool. I think that he might prioritize the Premier League but that's about it.
Does he fit in how Liverpool want to play? They have a bunch of athletic midfield players who press really hard.
Plus they have a lot of midfielders as is. Would be strange imo.
Plus they have a lot of midfielders as is. Would be strange imo.
They don't really have a midfielder that can contribute to a lot of goals/assists though. They seem to have tried to fix that issue for a while considering they were desperate for Fekir last summer.
This.FFS
In fairness he could have totally made that up or embellished the details. Can't really blame him for going to Liverpool over us though.
feck him, get Van de Beek instead. And Tielemans
He could just be being polite and Liverpool right now would be a nice place to go from Sporting? I don't think that really confirms much
Remember when the two American lads got Pogba to say he isn't leaving Juventus? Yeah, stuff like this means feck all 99 % of the time.
I refuse to believe he is our first choice target in midfield, €70m release clause is straight forward. I can't help but feel he's on the lower rung of targets we've set for this summer.
He's about 90% certain. Club and player already agreed terms, now it's just needed agree with the club.
With Liverpool or United?
United. Then again, reliable sources almost don't exist today.
I heard Sporting were negotiating 70M + Rafael Camacho from Liverpool. Dont know if any truth behind it.
I still think he will end up in United despite Sporting being very interested in Camacho the former Sporting youth product.
With that being said Sporting pre season begins with the player medicals in our training facilities July 4th so will be interesting to see of a deal is done before that.
I still think he will end up in United despite Sporting being very interested in Camacho the former Sporting youth product.
With that being said Sporting pre season begins with the player medicals in our training facilities July 4th so will be interesting to see of a deal is done before that.
If it makes you lot feel better I once met Andre Carrilo on the plane in 2015 (he was arguably Sporting best player at the time) him and Sporting were having contract disputes and I asked him to stay in Sporting and not go to one of our rivals. He said "Si si no te preocupes" (Yes yes dont worry) then he signed my Sporting shirt.
1 week later he signed for Benfica.
TWAT.
1 week later he signed for Benfica.
TWAT.
. That's cold.I got the last laugh though (Not really because he is making millions while I am typing this from my bed) he spent last season playing in Saudi Arabia so HA.
Doesn't his position and style of play make him a bit of a Pogba replacement? Especially in a 3-man midfield.
And If we're gonna play the diamond, why have we been buying (James) and looking at (Sancho) wingers?
And If we're gonna play the diamond, why have we been buying (James) and looking at (Sancho) wingers?
Is your bed in a Californian mansion in Malibu?
Not necessarily. Pogba can play deeper as shown at the world cup.
They spent like 50m on Keita for that, plus Oxlade will be back next season.
If we're keeping Pogba he has to play attacking midfield so surely we should be looking at alternatives to Bruno? He's be a gamble of a replacement too.
Pogba didn't really play that deep in the World Cup, it's greatly exaggerated on here. Deschamps deployed Matuidi as defensive LW. He was very often more deep than Pogba, allowing him to bomb forward. It was really a Kante, Pogba, Matuidi midfield. I don't think swapping Matuidi or Kante for another attack-minded midfielder would work.
And also a 7-game, short-duration cup competition is different to a 50-game season. Not to mention that he was in the most talented team. I have severe doubts whether Pogba can sustain the discipline, attention and focus that the deeper role requires for a long season. At Juve he played in midfield 3 with two more disciplined midfielders.
I'm sorry, if City played mostly of the games with Fernandinho/Gundogan - David Silva - De Bruyne/Bernando Silva in midfield, why can't we play with a DM, Pogba and Bruno ?
Perhaps they're not convinced by Keita, and they're worried Oxlade won't be as good as he was before he got injured. They are desperate to win the title, and with City as good as they are they'll want to have a squad full of quality players that would start at any other club.
He played a lot deeper than he is currently for United. Having a defensive midfielder, an attacking midfielder and Pogba to working between the two would be perfectly fine, particularly when Fernandes works as hard as he does.
Because Pogba is a liability workrate and positioning wise and we dont have a world class DM. We also dont keep the ball like City. We defend far more without the ball, having Pogba in there for a few games is fine, but for a season, he would be unhappy to have to do so much defending. We would need Kante to run around for 90 minutes covering every inch of the pitch not not get exposed defensively.
We will never no but i do not disagree that we focus on one deal at a time.
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