He was good, created at least 2 chances that were assist worthy.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 34
- Goals
- 12
- Assists
- 4
- Yellow cards
- 4
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This was and has been his level, just if you took away the historic npxG over-performance last year he should’ve had ~16 goal contributions in the league. He’s not too much less than that now, mostly because the assist totals are lower.
He can be a really frustrating player at times with his poor touches.
I feel his first touch in general is good. He needs to protect the ball better though when running at the opposition.
He looked better in the first half. Bad in the second though.
Really been surpassed by the other 2 forward signings since AFCON. I’m not too upset he’s missing the World Cup this summer. A break and hit the ground running next year.
Really been surpassed by the other 2 forward signings since AFCON. I’m not too upset he’s missing the World Cup this summer. A break and hit the ground running next year.
He was decent yesterday. It surely does not help that he has to shift positions.
Brought in as a more inside winger respectively 10 but also had to cover as wingback.
Now mostly plays as a traditional winger but used half of the time as a 9.
Whenever Sesko does not play or is replaced he becomes the striker because Zirkzee upfront seems to be worse than an out-of-form Amad.
Brought in as a more inside winger respectively 10 but also had to cover as wingback.
Now mostly plays as a traditional winger but used half of the time as a 9.
Whenever Sesko does not play or is replaced he becomes the striker because Zirkzee upfront seems to be worse than an out-of-form Amad.
I thought he was really good in the first half, he was a pain for Liverpool and many of our most threatening attacks game through him. Certainly should have had an assist, too.
Second half, he was more hit’n’miss as a striker in a period were the whole team struggled a bit, and he was subbed around when we started taking the game back again, which I don’t think had much to do with him.
He needs to spend the summer shifting some weight
By all means, do tell me which part is wrong?
Every winger at the club has gone through this sort of criticism. Giggs, Ronaldo, Nani, Rashford and more. They all had more than 1 season to find some consistency and be deemed as good players but it was never perfect. Its a hard league to play in with the opposition being so quick at disrupting your rhythm not to mention the heavy mental burden playing for a big club like United. He's done okay on the whole.
He would be helped enormously by having a much better right back as a partner on the right wing. Same with Amad.
So it looks like Mbeumo is currently going through a dip in form. However, it really reassures me how well he’s still playing despite that. He’s still producing plenty of progressive actions and showing a high work rate. It’s not even comparable to the poor runs of form we’ve seen from Garnacho, Antony, or Rashford. I’m 100% confident that Mbeumo will have a successful career with us, as long as he stays injury-free.
Arguably his best performances were when Amad was the RWB
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Need to move him on. Doesnt suit us if we are not playing WB and just looks slow and sluggish since the AFCON
Didn't really notice him much but either way needs to improve, fast.
He was my favourite player before Christmas and was doing great. It’s like he’s a different player since AFCON. Not been great at all. As the poster has said above, maybe one of the few who were better off under Amorim’s system for us.
Move him on
I was a bit shocked seeing him taking on his defender late in the game!
Him, Cunha and Sesko have all had solid first seasons with us to be fair. He’s 1 goal off double digits and he’s not the main man here where he was at Brentford so he has to carry Brentford… we’ve got goals shared amongst our front 3 now. He’ll improve next season with no mid season distractions
Average numbers are covering up bad performances though and it's worrying. Sesko not so much as his time here has been a bit stop and start but the other 2 should have been as close to sure thing you can get and neither have been good. Mbeumo specifically has been awful for months now.
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He started well here, but since the AFCON, his form has gone to shit. He's far too bulky right now, and he looks to be carrying a rather excessive BF%, though it could just be excessive muscle mass.
Very true. Also needs to regain his focus.
Its more that the goals have dried up and we didnt have a lot to be happy about before christmas. Jan 1st we were 6th and he was our only consistent goalscorer at that point.
The goals have now dried up, we have other players scoring more often and his general play isn't that good so when he doesnt score its a bit like when a striker doesnt score.
After the season has finished, he'll have played around 40 games this season (AFCON included), and he's looked shagged in the last 5/6, thats simply not good enough.
Next season we should be playing around 50-55 games at least, he'll be fecked by christmas.
Next season we should be playing around 50-55 games at least, he'll be fecked by christmas.
I would say sesko has had a solid season, the other 2 have not been good enough. They are not the only ones though.
Looking like a very expensive squad player.
Yes we do, of course. Mbuma has dropped off a bit, and looks a little disillusioned which surprises me. Whatever is going on, he needs to resolve, quickly. He should be our first choice, No 9, with support from Sesko. But I think they could do with an additional No 9 to challenge them, because look at the last couple of months... and we have only been playing one game a week!
Mbuma worries me a bit... I don't recall this drop-off at Brentford under Frank, however, I stand to be corrected.. I really like Mbuma, there is a lot, a lot to enjoy about his game and I am pleased we have him. But he seems to have lost his edge after AFCON.
Mbuma worries me a bit... I don't recall this drop-off at Brentford under Frank, however, I stand to be corrected.. I really like Mbuma, there is a lot, a lot to enjoy about his game and I am pleased we have him. But he seems to have lost his edge after AFCON.
I mean the whole shtick with Mbeumo and Cunha was supposed to be prem proven hit the ground running and be impressive. They were two of the best forwards in the league last season and have not carried that on here yet. I will, however, say that our quality of coaching has played a part. The less said about Amorim, the better, but also Carrick's style so far has not really brought the best out in any of our forwards, it feels as though they only get the ball in dangerous areas on an extreme counter where the opposition has committed men forward but in general build up it is pretty poor. Quite a few games recently where the forwards have struggled to get shots off which is poor.
Mbeumo may have to develop himself into a Tevez like striker for us because I don't think he is dynamic enough a dribbler to be a wide player here. We will face a lot more sides that are well set defensively than Brentford would and his strengths lie in transition more than against lower blocks. He could get away with that a bit more up front because he is definitely more of a play finisher than a play maker.
People keep saying he’s been out of sorts since AFCON but after he came back he was vital in the two big wins vs City and Arsenal and played very well.
The truth is he started in good form up until the end of October. His form had already been dropping a bit before AFCON.
He seems like the type of player than needs to score or assist to have a good game. I’ve not lost all hope in him but starting to think he’s exposed out there on the right wing, he’s a terrible dribble and quite clumsy on the ball. He needs to be as close to Sesko as possible to run off him and make an impact on the box or on counters.
He’s just not a player you give the ball to in the hopes of making things happen.
The truth is he started in good form up until the end of October. His form had already been dropping a bit before AFCON.
He seems like the type of player than needs to score or assist to have a good game. I’ve not lost all hope in him but starting to think he’s exposed out there on the right wing, he’s a terrible dribble and quite clumsy on the ball. He needs to be as close to Sesko as possible to run off him and make an impact on the box or on counters.
He’s just not a player you give the ball to in the hopes of making things happen.
Seen a few rumours admittedly only online we might look at moving him on this summer.
I would think that's very premature, but he needs to have a better second season to be a long term stay. He started brilliantly but since those Arsenal and City games he's fell off a cliff.
I would think that's very premature, but he needs to have a better second season to be a long term stay. He started brilliantly but since those Arsenal and City games he's fell off a cliff.
The proven concept is a bit useless without taking into account how the teams they are starring in are playing (e.g. on the counter with lots of space to run into), and not considering whether the players have the technical ability to also be effective when space is limited. Would Lingard have been considered a "prem proven" player based on his performances at West Ham for example?
In this regard Mbeumo has shown shortcomings, which makes spending an elite level fee on him unwise, and this was called out at the time. Especially at an age where he is unlikely to improve in this aspect.
If we are to compete for the title, will he and Cunha become very expensive (both fee and salary wise) squad players? Will we able to move them on if they cannot command the salaries we are paying them elsewhere?
He’s very lucky that Amad has been equally as shit since the turn of the year otherwise he’d have been on the bench more than not.
My biggest complaint with him is his effort. Maybe he wants to leave as he just doesn’t look bothered.
My biggest complaint with him is his effort. Maybe he wants to leave as he just doesn’t look bothered.
I think we should try and get £40-£50m for him and let him go, can only play in transition teams and when we play sides who sit back he looks really poor.
A winger who can't dribble. He is not the future for us unless we move him more inside and we have a stable midfield and right back.
Decent finisher and good positioning.
I think we should withdraw the team from the league and never play another game. Clearly there no footballers on the planet that are good enough to meet CAF expectations.
Spot on. But we won't. We're not ruthless enough.
Spot on. But we won’t. We’re not ruthless enough.
Needs to be added that online rumours seem to stem from IndyKalia's tweet, soooo.....
We cant afford to let him go this summer, due to Amads poor form, which could easily spill into next season.
Next summer is a different scenario, especially if Lacey gets some minutes and impresses, then I think we'd entertain selling Mbeumo/Amad.
Next summer is a different scenario, especially if Lacey gets some minutes and impresses, then I think we'd entertain selling Mbeumo/Amad.
No way we sell him.
Zirkzee first out the door.
Then Mount.
Mbeumo has tailed off but absolutely deserves another season minimum.
Zirkzee first out the door.
Then Mount.
Mbeumo has tailed off but absolutely deserves another season minimum.