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Amad will be gone before Mbeumo as well.
Cameroon aren't at the World Cup, it would be insane to sell the good players who are well rested.
I've noticed that. I don't think he loves the way he's being moved around RW,ST under Carrick, as well as being rotated/subbed off regularly.
Needs to start putting in performances worthy of staying on or nailing down a position then. If it's true that he's moping around because he's not a default 90 minute player then there's only one person that can change that. It's not like he's been Mainoo'd under Amorim he's been given ample opportunity to perform and he's just not doing it at the moment.
He'll be fine, an additional striker to deputise for Sesko, will help him I.e. no having to have him fill in up front.
New and better CMs will help and so will more competition for places. Both him and Amad haven't been the same since coming back from AFCON.
A full preseason with carrick and his staff will help as well.
I do wonder if we had prioritised Semenyo over Mbeumo last summer, What's sort of season Semenyo would have had at Utd. We will never know.
New and better CMs will help and so will more competition for places. Both him and Amad haven't been the same since coming back from AFCON.
A full preseason with carrick and his staff will help as well.
I do wonder if we had prioritised Semenyo over Mbeumo last summer, What's sort of season Semenyo would have had at Utd. We will never know.
Yeah, no chance he’s going anywhere this summer. Nor should he in my view albeit we’ll need a bit more from him and all the front players next season.
Completely agree with you. I might also be seeing things that aren't there, but I found it interesting that @Jeffthered had noted the same.
Can’t believe some people already want him sold. Mental.
Sell him?? What on earth
If only it were possible.
No, only me
I'm also in the camp of cashing in whilst his value is still reasonably high. He's too poor on the ball.
You can get away with that when you're Chicharito who came relatively cheap, guaranteed you around 20 goals a season and was coming in to an already very good squad so we didn't need to rely on him as much. Mbeumo cost a lot, doesn't guarantee you that many goals, and the first 11 needs significantly strengthening and the money his transfer would bring in could help us bring in a new winger whose general play elevates the team as a whole.
You can get away with that when you're Chicharito who came relatively cheap, guaranteed you around 20 goals a season and was coming in to an already very good squad so we didn't need to rely on him as much. Mbeumo cost a lot, doesn't guarantee you that many goals, and the first 11 needs significantly strengthening and the money his transfer would bring in could help us bring in a new winger whose general play elevates the team as a whole.
Crazy take. Yeah he’s been poor but it’s his first season. His ability on the ball and sublime finishing at Brentford are all I need to see and there’s bags of potential there for us to work with
To be fair, if people already had concerns about Mbuemo and his suitability for us long-term prior to this season, then there is as much evidence to vindicate those doubts as there is to dispell them.
The concerns people had: his technical level is not high enough; he's not a great dribbler or crosser of a ball; and his goal output last season was a statistical outlier.
Now, I think Mbuemo has done well and we've performed better as a team compared to last season for having him in the side rather than someone like Garnacho or Anthony. But has he done so well that all those doubts have been dispelled? No, I don't think so. I think it's reasonable to suggest Mbuemo is a top six player but not necessarily a title-winning level player. He could be part of such an attack, but at some point we need to invest in a top-shelf attacking option who can regularly create things out of nothing.
I don't advocate selling him this summer, mainly because we won't get back what we paid for him and because I think he could be a useful squad option, but it's not ridiculous to suggest we should look at upgrading him in the medium term.
There’s absolutely zero chance that the club would sell him now, and rightly so. Hence my initial post.
I'm not sure who we would replace him with that is a clear upgrade?
Unless we are remortgaging the club to sign Olise or Yamal then there are loads and loads of 6/7 out of 10 wingers about and not much more than that.
Unless we are remortgaging the club to sign Olise or Yamal then there are loads and loads of 6/7 out of 10 wingers about and not much more than that.
I don't think he's been poor. I think he's been poor since February, but before that he was pretty good for us when Cunha and Sesko were still finding their way into the team.
However, do you think he's got a lot more potential for growth? He will turn 27 before the start of next season. I think we have to accept that this could just be his level. If he can improve, then it would be with a few more goals here and there, but I don't think he's going to suddenly develop high level dribbling, crossing, first touch, or ability to turn in tight spaces.
Sure. I was simply giving my view on why it's not an absurd opinion that Mbuemo might not be what we want in that RW spot long-term. I don't think there's any chance the club sell him now, either. Obviously "want" and "expect" are not the same thing, so if someone is expressing what they want to happen then that doesn't mean they are suggesting that they think there is a chance it will happen.
It’s really hard to find better wingers than him, realistically. And if we ever manage to be in that position, he’d be a quality rotation player.
Sell him because he’s been out of form for what? 9 games? It’s months because we barely ever play. After being one of our most important attacking players with goals against Arsenal, City, Liverpool, Spurs and Brighton. Absolutely moronic takes. Sorry.
I don't think that is the argument @Yagami made, for one. He referenced Mbuemo's abilities as a player, not his recent form. Again, if you had concerns over Mbuemo's first touch, close control, dribbling etc before he joined us, can you honestly say those doubts have been dispelled after this season?
I am not saying he should be sold, but I think it would be a more interesting discussion if we focus on the points being made and respond to them.
He’s got the right mentality to play for us. He even said in a latest interview that he doesn’t mind being benched as it sets the right standards and tells him to work harder to get back into the team. These are the players we need. Let’s not become a fan base that wants players to leave due to a bad batch. Let’s support them and get them back in good form.
Pretty much, yeah. @Lennon7 may be right in that I'm crazy, but I just don't see it with this chap.
I don't buy the arguments that we couldn't upgrade either. If we sell him and bring in a winger who can dribble and take some of the creative burden off Bruno - thus giving us a different option of opening up opposition teams - we'll be a better team for it. He doesn't need to be as big as a goal threat himself as Mbeumo because if we get a wide man who brings these attributes to the team, we'll create more chances and score more. I think, anyway.
Shocking! This was like earlier in the season. Oh we should have signed Pedro, no Woltemade, no whoever last grabbed a goal or two. We've signed one of the best RWBs for 5-3-2 in the league. He's still settling in to a new formation, a new club, a new city and way more attention and pressure on him. Yes he's been poor since AFCON but you don't sell someone because of a poor half a season. Some of these guys would have been up for selling Andy Cole after his first season
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I wouldn't even consider selling him or Amad, that is insane to me. We need more players of decent quality, not less. I would ideally love to see players even better than Cunha, Mbeumo and Amad come in that way our floor is raised tremendously. Also those 3 may even improve with additional competition and better teammates at FB, in midfield and hopefully better attacking coaching.
Mbeumo has shown more than enough to be a worthy member of the squad and a potential match winner. If he doesn't hit the heights we expect, then he would be a decent Gnabry type player for us.
Mbeumo has shown more than enough to be a worthy member of the squad and a potential match winner. If he doesn't hit the heights we expect, then he would be a decent Gnabry type player for us.
If he’d get himself fit maybe he wouldn’t be benched so often. High standards my arse.
Who?
He hasn’t ever played wingback for us, or any other team, as far as I know?
State of this thread. Sell him? At worst, he becomes an excellent option off the bench. More likely that he finds form again and we have a 12-15 goal a season winger.
If we want to become a team challenging at the top we need more players like him, not fewer.
If we want to become a team challenging at the top we need more players like him, not fewer.
Is he talking about Mbeumo? Genuinely got excited thinking we've signed someone ffs.... In a thread where people are suggesting selling a player we've just bought after a season this is the craziest take.
Some of you are batshit mental. 
This place is crazy.
He’s been rotated because he’s been poor let’s be honest . He’s been more like Antony lately
I meant in a system with a RWB on his side. Apologies, beers have been had this evening. Still, going on about selling him is the daft
Any data to support the theory that all the premier league players that participated in AFCON had a dip in form? Baleba, Sarr, Etc?
Since when did he play RWB? I’m pretty sure he was used in a front 2 in that system at Brentford.
You are absolutely right. Spot on. Mbuma looks a little out-of-sorts, but he will get a nice holiday soon.
He should come back, wanting to get stuck into the Champions League.
Granted I’ve been riding the not good enough as a starter train since we’ve been linked to him, but I don’t get the outrage over @Yagami. People saying he’s out of form it’ll be ok, if you take last season as a massive outlier, his numbers are the same across multiple seasons. This is his level of statistical output, he’s not going to do much better, regardless of joining a new team. The whole point of “Prem proven” is to hit the ground running.
Now, with that said: I do also think he’s was hard done by as he was signed to be an attacking mid and not a winger, because his dribbling has never been a threat at T6 level. I do appreciate his positional versatility, he has shown some level of finishing ability that we are sorely lacking, and think he’s a solid rotational piece but we can definitely upgrade on him, if not this summer then next.
Now, with that said: I do also think he’s was hard done by as he was signed to be an attacking mid and not a winger, because his dribbling has never been a threat at T6 level. I do appreciate his positional versatility, he has shown some level of finishing ability that we are sorely lacking, and think he’s a solid rotational piece but we can definitely upgrade on him, if not this summer then next.
What even is the implication here?
He's played far less games this season if we count both club + international than he would have done if we played a normal season with United where he had European games and domestic cup runs.
These players have had a ridiculous amount of rest this season, I'm not buying that they're tired because they played a few international games, it screams of excuses.
He also scored in 3 out the first 4 games on his return from AFCON, so the narrative he lost form after AFCON doesn't even make any sense.