Bundesliga 19/20

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  1. Aug 12, 2019
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    Yeah I think @.mica is getting a bit ahead of himself here. I like our squad but it definitely has its flaws and for example the Uerdingen match was a bit of a disappointment for me. Maybe I expected a bit too much and it does also show the development of the last years that even with a mediocre performance we still qualified for the next round without any problems. I think the squad should on average be able to replicate the results of last season, maybe more, maybe less depending on injuries and luck.

    With Bayern it is a bit of a gamble for them I think (based on their current squad that will probably be improved upon in the coming weeks). If they are spared an injury crisis they still comfortably have the best first eleven in the league und should win the league. If they do have a couple of injuries (Lewandowski/Süle/Coman/Gnabry/Kimmich) they will quickly have a severe drop in quality. So I guess it will depend largely on the matches where they are lacking a couple of their key players. If they win those I am pretty sure they will win the league again. If not, Dortmund may have a chance.

    Overall I am really looking forward to this season. Bayern seem beatable but that doesn't mean you can count them out by a long shot.
  2. Aug 12, 2019
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    Are you talking about one match or the whole season? Cause i don't remember what line up Bayern played against Dortmund in the Rückrunde, but i think a team without Robben, Ribery, Hummels and James is in fact not "basically the same team". Meanwhile Dortmund has strenghten its squad a lot and focused on all the waeknesses which causes the underwhelming Rückrunde. Iam thinking of some positions like CB or FB, and the mentality or unexperienced youth players.

    RB now got a fantastic coach, and in my eyes their squad is well balanced and fits to the coach.

    Leverkusen could be nice, they have also a squad which fits to Bosz, but in the end its Leverkusen who could break apart every time (which is something that is not unusual with Bosz' teams).

    Gladbach i cant evaluate. You guys got some thoughts about them?

    Schalke is a prototype of a chaotic club and i hope they will finally get relegated. Something they strongly deserve.
  3. Aug 12, 2019
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    Robben barely played a minute, Hummels and James were at odds with Kovac. The former already got replaced with the two French men, for the latter they are supposedly about to sign another CM. Ribery got replaced with Perisic.
    It's not as good as Bayern's officials lead people to believe/hope, causong a fair amount of ridicule and disappointment, but they will still have a strong (first) team.
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    Bayern playing Cottbus right now in the cup. Several BuLi teams have already gone out against lower league teams, and additionally several more second league teams have lost to even lower league ones, so it's been a very entertaining first round so far.
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    Actually I feel there have been very few upsets so far. Only two first and three second league teams have actually gone out. It may have felt like it was more because so many teams had to go to extra time or even penalties but every single one of those was won by the favoured team. Overall I agree with you though, it has been quite entertaining :)
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    We are making up for the entertainment. This is incredibly dull.
    Btw, I just found out minutes ago that Cottbus is a 4th tier club nowadays :eek:
    In my head they still were the sometimes BuLi, mostly second league team of the late 90s, early 2000s to mid 2010s, but they took a sharp dive over the last ~4 years.
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    Goretzka gives away a pen for the consolation goal. 3-1 FT
  8. Aug 12, 2019
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    - I don't think Guerreiro will ever play a Wingback under Favre if not literally every defensive player in the squad is injured. He already has shown that last year using Diallo over Guerreiro. For once Guerreiro isn't strong enough defensively and we don't have the offensive power to make-up for it through attacking being the best defense. Secondly he isn't the kind of wingback Favre wants. Favre wants the Wingbacks to be line-players that create width more than anything. Even a Hazard (who already played a similar position in Belgiums 3-5-2) would be better suited for that than Guerreiro. If anything, Guerreiro is a lot more like Kimmich and Alaba instead of Piczcek or Schulz.
    - So will Unbehaun and Raschl. They still train with the first team to get experience with them as far as I know. Admittedly I am not 100% sure about that one.
    - Yes, he can. But I see Götze and Hazard before him in that regard so I left him out there.


    - I would give it a 50:50. I said two posts ago that I don't particular care either way. It's ok if he stays and it's ok if he leaves. He is a good squad player for us. That's it. All of his potential positions there is at least 1 player better suited for it. Reus, Paco, Brandt, Hazard, Delaney, etc. He pretty much is the "neither fish nor meat"-kinda guy. Not fast and athletic enough for the attacking positions. Not good enough defensively for the double-6.


    I would assume Dahoud stays because a) we couldn't get a replacement for his player-style or b) the risk would've been too big to get said replacement early and eventually failing to thin out the squad. Also he does have the potential to also play the double-10 in a 4-1-4-1 which may happen a few times throughout the season.

    Gomez obviously isn't good enough defensively to play a double-6 as of now. Which is why I said he isn't mature enough. But I don't see him getting any playtime on the 10, either so I expected him to be much rather a back-up for the double-6 as I see more chances for him to get playtime there as well as it suited his playstyle quite a bit. But I don't know about Favres plans with him. Either way, it doesn't seem like he is going to go out with a loan.
    Edit: And then he gets loaned without any prior rumours. Quality timing by me.

    And yes, Gündogan would've been the wet dream. Literally would give us an incredibly versatile double-6.


    I like Schick as a playertype as well as thinking he would suit Favres playstyle and gives an alternative playertype over Paco for certain opponents.
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  9. Aug 13, 2019 at 09:40
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    Actually not sure if you’re trolling
  10. Aug 13, 2019 at 10:08
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  11. Aug 14, 2019 at 12:36
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    You mistake me for Honess and Rumenigge.
    Perisic is more than nothing, but is he "the transfers" Hoeness were thinking of when he said "if you would know we have already signed"? Is he the result of Brazzo "steping on the gas as feck"?
    Iam not sure, but iam sure its going to be an exciting season.
  12. Aug 14, 2019 at 12:55
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    Perisic is unavailable for the Bundesliga kick off on friday due to a 5 yellow cards ban that carries over from Serie A. I had no idea those bans are valid across leagues.
  13. Aug 16, 2019 at 08:35
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    Pogba was banned for game against Bournemouth because he accumulated yellow cards in Serie A, back in 2016-17 season.
  14. Aug 16, 2019 at 09:21
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    You said it is „the worst Bayern squad ever“.
    Why don’t you put you money where your mouth is and bid heavily on Bayern not becoming champions?
  15. Aug 16, 2019 at 12:54
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    Schweinsteiger/Altintop as RW/RM. That squad was a nightmare. Everything changed with the signings of Van Gaal and Robben.
  17. Aug 16, 2019 at 14:02
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    to be fair, at that specific night Lahm and Lucio were out; Lahm/Ze Roberto was a wing axis to be reckoned; Lucio/Demichelis was a bit less of a laughing stock than Micho/Breno. Still...
  18. Aug 16, 2019 at 15:27
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    Off to the Allianz Arena!
  19. Aug 16, 2019 at 19:37
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    You need a recommendation for a proctologist? Because this post reeks of a hurting butt.

    This Bayern squad is indeed one of the worst in the last 30 years at least. But that doesn't mean it's still not better than 90% of the league. One statement doesn't exclude the other and this transferwindow was pretty subpar and I could probably write an essay about why.
    They are still the favourites, but they are as beatable as they haven't been for a long time and it's gonna be a rough season - if just 1 or 2 things go wrong (like a months long Lewandowski or Thiago injury)
  20. Aug 16, 2019 at 19:43
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    What is wrong with some posters on here? This used to be a great forum for fans of all clubs.
  21. Aug 16, 2019 at 20:15
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    Bayern losing.
  22. Aug 16, 2019 at 20:16
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    Meanwhile in Munich, Bayern completely outplay Hertha and are now down 2:1 after conceding two goals in 3 minutes.
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    Berlin from 1-0 down to 2-1 vs Bayern.
  24. Aug 16, 2019 at 20:20
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    Grujic still manages to score in a 1 vs 1 while being half knocked-out.

    And Neuer claiming whatever after conceding (at 1-1) never gets old :lol:
  25. Aug 16, 2019 at 20:23
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    That kills me everytime :lol::lol::lol:
  26. Aug 16, 2019 at 20:33
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    I'm not enjoying this
  27. Aug 16, 2019 at 20:41
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    I mean Bayern were dominant and the better team and Hertha are very fortunate to leading, but most of the game felt relatively open (considering it's Bayern at home), with Hertha finding some space every now and then.
  28. Aug 16, 2019 at 20:41
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    Bayern just as bad as 18/19?

    Don't worry, Dortmund will feck it up again...or not.
  29. Aug 16, 2019 at 20:50
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    Coman is such a frustrating player.
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    What a stupid penalty to concede.
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    With this Starting XI Bayern will severely struggle (again) to win the liga or reach the UCL QFs.
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    That defender :houllier:
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    What a stupid man.
  34. Aug 16, 2019 at 20:56
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    What goes through a player's mind when he does something like that? Had Hertha been able to hold on a few minutes longer Bayern's pressure might have ebbed off, now I would be surprised (again) if they take any points.
  35. Aug 16, 2019 at 20:56
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    What a touch by Lewandowski. Almost got his hat-trick.
  36. Aug 16, 2019 at 21:26
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    Bayern remind me of their van Gaal version and not in a good way. A heavy wing focus, but painfully harmless through the center and no greats like Ribery and Robben out wide either.
  37. Aug 16, 2019 at 21:33
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    We may have to wait a few more games first though.

    Bayern has been struggling with Hertha for quite some time now. That's 2 wins, 4 draws and 1 loss with an aggregate 9:9 goals in their past 7 duels. They might play better against other teams.
  38. Aug 16, 2019 at 21:37
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    At the very very latest after today's match/result I expect Bayern to go out shopping (Countinho and Cuisance appear to be likely), so I don't think this told us much about the future either way.
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    Coutinho to Bayern on loan confirmed by Brazzo
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    Coutinho is a good move, they really need him