If anything it makes things tighter in terms of getting second or fourth. With a win City will be right back. We absolutely have to beat Everton, tough it seems like they're gaining form so it'll be definitely tight at the Goodison. Hopefully they injured guys are back.
Bye bye top 4
- Thread starter Devil_forever
- Start date
- Status
I'd be pretty confident of beating Arsenal at OT if we play like we did today, against Liverpool and Man City.
I'd be pretty confident of beating any team at OT if we play like today and didn't have injuries to contend with. It all bodes very well for the future. The game went the way we all sort of knew it would, only we dominated more than I was expecting. It's really coming together under Van Gaal, and it took a single chance from the league's best player to deny us a well deserved point. Impossible to criticise the manager after today (maybe the subs), but some will probably try.
We could afford to lose today's game and still get top 4. Once we win our home games, we can draw at Everton and Palace and still make it I think but it'll be tight 
Would expect us to beat Everton though, if we have 2 of the injured 4 players back.We could afford to lose today's game and still get top 4. Once we win our home games, we can draw at Everton and Palace and still make it I think but it'll be tight
And Arsenal.
Yeah we'd want to be winning those away games. Don't see why we want if we play the way we know we can.We could afford to lose today's game and still get top 4. Once we win our home games, we can draw at Everton and Palace and still make it I think but it'll be tight
Liverpool are the only team with a "realistic" chance of ousting us out of the top 4. They've got Chelsea away along with some other difficult fixtures.
Let's assume they win all their remaing games but draw at the Bridge (unlikely in my opinion). They'd end up on 73 points. We'd need 8 more points between now and the end of the season to match that total (and therefore qualify due to our superior goal difference). 2 wins and 2 draws. Hull and West Brom, Everton and Arsenal respectively.
Quietly confident.
Let's assume they win all their remaing games but draw at the Bridge (unlikely in my opinion). They'd end up on 73 points. We'd need 8 more points between now and the end of the season to match that total (and therefore qualify due to our superior goal difference). 2 wins and 2 draws. Hull and West Brom, Everton and Arsenal respectively.
Quietly confident.
But they'll likely play them when they are already champions though, much as Chelsea will still put out a strong team their levels will drop so for me they could win that one, the same with WBA, and Stoke they have nothing to play for, Hull, QPR, and Palace are there for the taking, I just have a horrible feeling they could string 6 wins together which would mean we need 10 points still, and you can only say we have two gimmes (WBA, and Hull)
Sky were showing a stat about Mourinho today...in 29 games against the top 4 he has lost 1 (Barcelona). He hates Liverpool and the Chelsea fans hate them too so they won't take the game lightly
oh ye of little faith! we will piss fourth place at worst, i dont expect us to lose any more games this season in fact i fully expect us to win every game
That's the hope I hold out for this one, especially as he loves LvG so much too.
Maximum points Liverpool can get is 75. We need 10 points in 5 games, so three wins and a draw will guarantee us top 4 (assuming Liverpool win all their games). Liverpool still have Chelsea away, Stoke away and Palace at home which are all potential banana slips.
But screw 4th, I want 3rd.
But screw 4th, I want 3rd.
If we get our full squad back we will piss the rest of the games. When has anybody outside of Barca had 70% possession at Stamford Bridge?
I'm very negative so I'm still quite nervous yet. I don't think Liverpool will win all their games but even assuming they win all and draw at the Bridge, getting 8 points should be easy enough. I do wish the WBA game at Old Trafford was next week though. Anyway I think we'll draw next week and vs Palace since our away form is a bit rubbish so we'll have to beat WBA at home and Hull/Arsenal. Liverpool dropping any points at WBA before our game next week would be a relief.
I know what you mean, I'm quite nervous too as it's so vital but we should do it.
All the good form and confidence of recent weeks would be for nothing and set us back many steps if we were to somehow not finish Top 4 and that's why I'm nervous. Finish in the top 4 and coupled with this run of form and performances puts us in great shape for next season.
Given how we played at Anfield and today at the Champions despite the injuries I'd be surprised if we didn't get something away at Everton and Palace despite our bad away record, especially since they've nothing left to play for.
I'm ridiculously nervous about it, we lose, or draw with Everton, & Pool win all theirs and they are level, or ahead before we play WBA.
Logic creeps back in at times though and tells me even we can't feck this up from this position.
Liverpool have two difficult away games coming up. Soton lost today and we are a good bit ahead of Spurs too. They will drop points between now and the end of the season which will give us a bigger cushion.
Teams which have nothing to play for can be quite dangerous. Palace just beat City and Stoke were unlucky to lose to Chelsea and just beat Southampton today. Everton away is never easy for us and they've just gotten back in form over the last month. Even Hull away probably won't be too easy!
I'm sure Pool will drop to Chelsea and even if they win all others, we should do it but I'm nervous because of our away form. If WBA take something off Pool then I'll be a lot more relaxed about Everton.
I'm not worried about Spurs and Southampton. Liverpool are the bigger concern
Chelsea likes to stick it to the scousers. 
We should be able to beat West Brom at Old Trafford and Hull away quite comfortably. Everton and Palace away are tricky but we're much better than them. Arsenal at home I'm quietly confident about too. I reckon we will get at least 9 points and very likely around 11-13.
There is absolutey zero chance that Southampton or Spurs will finish above us.
Yep nervous but I'd have taken this position 6 games ago.....
Have to beat Everton, without doubt.
What's liverpools run in like?
What's liverpools run in like?
Aye, things could get a bit itchy if we don't beat Everton - but if we play like yesterday we'll destroy them.
Oh, I just saw that liverpool still have to play Chelsea. In that case, I'm not too worried. Can't see them clawing back 5 points on us.
Oh, I just saw that liverpool still have to play Chelsea. In that case, I'm not too worried. Can't see them clawing back 5 points on us.
West Brom (A), Hull (A), QPR (H), Chelsea (A), Palace (H) and Stoke (A)
Only games I see them really dropping points in is Chelsea and Stoke. And even so, Chelsea may have already won the league by the time they face Liverpool.
It's similar to ours, they have 4 away, 2 home to play, they play Chelsea, Hull, West Brom, and Stoke away,
QPR, and Palace at home, quite comparable games to ours other than we have Arsenal at home, they obviously have a game in hand now also.
Logically looking at that they must drop 3-4 points minimum, which would mean we only need 2 wins, and an draw, but you just never know with them they may just string 6 wins together as the harder teams they play basically have nothing left to play for.
Mourinho absolutely detest Liverpool, so no worries he'll do his thing
Top 4 still looks good for us but it's far from a sure thing. We could easily slip up in a few of our final games.
3 points at Everton would be a huge step in the right direction. If that happens I think we can reasonably expect that the Arsenal match will decide 2nd place.
3 points at Everton would be a huge step in the right direction. If that happens I think we can reasonably expect that the Arsenal match will decide 2nd place.
Well I hope that's true because imagine if he ever considered becoming their manager. It would be the ultimate challenge for him. Wouldn't want that to happen.
Well their next 3 are against clubs down in the relegation scrap, hopefully they'll drop points there too.
Mourinho going to Liverpool?
Is this thread still running?
Oh well , last comment - can't see Liverpool (our only realistic threat) getting more than 10 or 11 points from their remaining games - if that is the case we need 1 win or 3 draws from ours - I'll be shocked if we don't get at least as many points as Liverpool in our remaining games
Oh well , last comment - can't see Liverpool (our only realistic threat) getting more than 10 or 11 points from their remaining games - if that is the case we need 1 win or 3 draws from ours - I'll be shocked if we don't get at least as many points as Liverpool in our remaining games
They'll be lucky to get 4 wins out of that I think. No way are they winning away to Chelsea and I highly doubt they'll win against Stoke. Doubt they'll beat West Brom either, as they'll be low on confidence. But let's say they get 4 wins, 1 draw and 1 loss from that, which is probably as much as any liverpool fan could even hope for from those fixtures (unlikely as I said). That's 13 points, up to 70. We just need 5 points from 5 games... Basically for anyone still having the slightest bit of doubt, it's done pretty much.
They have a slight chance of catching City, because they are far more likely to drop points IMO. City play Spurs away, Swansea away and then finish home to Southampton. They'll probably beat Southampton at home, but the other two are very hard games even if you're in great form, and they're far from it. The other two are Villa and QPR at home for City.
We'll most likely end 3rd, but if we have a perfect run from now until the end we'll finish 2nd. Can only see Arsenal dropping points against Chelsea and United, but if they win against Chelsea then they pretty much wrapped up 2nd, even if we beat them.
This is what I don't understand. We're a much better team than them yet we are apparently likely to drop points against Everton and Palace who have nothing to play for and could easily struggle against West Brom at home too. Liverpool however are guaranteed wins against three relegation threatened teams, some of them that they'd already dropped points to this or last season. How does that work?
For now, yes it is. It is getting a bit tedious though.
It's the ultra pessimistic view on things. People fear the worst so assume the rivals will pick up max points, even if they play against teams who they have a terrible record against like Stoke and Chelsea, and at the same time expect us to drop points against any half decent team despite us having the best record in the league against the big teams...
I admit that I am very very pessimistic, but after seeing Liverpool get knocked out by Villa I think I'll change my mind about some of those fixtures.
I'm more worried about us not at least getting 3rd to be honest.
- Status