Can Bruno break the PL assists record? | 4 more to go in 6 games | officially overtakes Nani and Becks

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7 in 9 games doable?

He's already broke Giggs' record of most away assists in a single season. Bruno now has 9 with Giggs having 8 in 00/01.

Another record he's coming for is most PL assists in a single season for a United player. He's currently 3rd behind Nani who got 14 in 10/11 and Beckham who got 15 in 99/00.
 
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He should of had another 1 or 2 tonight if his team mates weren’t diddies.
 
Yes he will.

All the while not making us any better as a team.

Every time he plays, there is a giant hole in our midfield because he is all over the place.

And everytime we have the ball, everything needs to go through him.

Look at United before and after we bought him.
He has made us no better.
 
According to BBC he has 14 assists in 26 games (0.54 assists per game) so you would imagine getting 7 in 9 (0.78 assists per game) is a pretty tough ask.
 
ifightdragons said:
Yes he will.

All the while not making us any better as a team.

Every time he plays, there is a giant hole in our midfield because he is all over the place.

And everytime we have the ball, everything needs to go through him.

Look at United before and after we bought him.
He has made us no better.
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Red Rash said:
According to BBC he has 14 assists in 26 games (0.54 assists per game) so you would imagine getting 7 in 9 (0.78 assists per game) is a pretty tough ask.
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True, but I posted this in his performance thread after the Fulham game:

Yagami said:
(Anyone can feel free to correct this if I'm wrong)

It took him until our 8th game (Liverpool) to get his first assist. Including that game, he's done 12 in his last 14.

He's not slowing down under Carrick either. 12 chanced created in the last 3 games.

If he keeps that form up he could well break it but we've seen with the likes of Ozil, Fabregas and De Bryune that you can look on course to doing so and falling short.

It would be an incredible achievement. As @ManhattanRed says above, look at the teams Henry and De Bryune were in compared to Bruno. If he breaks the record in this team then he deserves extra Yorkshire pudding on his Sunday roast forever.
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So he started slow, but the rate he's been going at since the Liverpool game has been impressive. Since that Fulham game he's only got 2 in 5 but he's still creating so many clear cut chances.
 
ifightdragons said:
Yes he will.

All the while not making us any better as a team.

Every time he plays, there is a giant hole in our midfield because he is all over the place.

And everytime we have the ball, everything needs to go through him.

Look at United before and after we bought him.
He has made us no better.
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Didnt people pay attention to you on the other Bruno threads, so you decided to come here? This is not what is being asked and also is a simply wrong opinion
 
I'd say it's 50/50. It's not just up to him. Someone must finish the chances too.

He'll probably beat Beckham's United record though. Which is seriously impressive when you consider the fact that we won the league and got 91 points that season. Not to mention, Beckham is one of the best set-piece takers of all time!
 
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Scandi Red said:
I'd say it's 50/50. It's not just up to him. Someone must finish the chances too.

He'll probably beat Beckham's United record though. Which is seriously impressive when you consider the fact that we won the league and got 91 points that season. Not to mention, Beckham is one of the best set-piece takers of all time!
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Also keep in mind that the 99/00 season is our highest scoring season ever in the PL. Beckham was assisting the likes of Cole, Yorke, Sheringham and Solskjaer. Bruno even coming close to him in this team is crazy.

By the way, Beckham got 16 - not 15 - assists so my bad there.
 
Yagami said:
Also keep in mind that the 99/00 season is our highest scoring season ever in the PL. Beckham was assisting the likes of Cole, Yorke, Sheringham and Solskjaer. Bruno even coming close to him in this team is crazy.
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Yup!

Yagami said:
By the way, Beckham got 16 - not 15 - assists so my bad there.
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No, I think 15 is correct? But some think that 16 is the record, held by Cantona. But 5 of those were for Leeds.
 
Scandi Red said:
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No, I think 15 is correct? But some think that 16 is the record, held by Cantona. But 5 of those were for Leeds.
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I thought so as well but Wikipedia and Transfermarkt both have him down as having 16
 
I always thought the record would be higher -- in the 20s.

Could do it. I think he'll get a few more either way.
 
Red Rash said:
According to BBC he has 14 assists in 26 games (0.54 assists per game) so you would imagine getting 7 in 9 (0.78 assists per game) is a pretty tough ask.
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Let’s not forget that he only started playing behind the striker since Carrick took over.
 
Bondi77 said:
Another stat that no one really cares about.
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I think the responses show you're wrong here. Quite apart from that, what do you think this adds to the thread?

I think he'll do it, just. He could have had another couple the other day though so his team mates need to start finishing!
 
Pickle85 said:
I think the responses show you're wrong here. Quite apart from that, what do you think this adds to the thread?

I think he'll do it, just. He could have had another couple the other day though so his team mates need to start finishing!
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I do not put much into assists
A player could have a stinker of a game and then make a standard pass to a player which results in a goal or take a corner which results in a goal.
Great for FPL but that is about it for me.
 
He can if he avoids the stinkers.
If he plays on his level he is amazing and assists 1-2 evey game
 
It's possible but he needs a game or two where we batter the opposition.
 
It’s ultimately down to the players around him. He tees up everyone and they need to score.
 
He’s got a serious chance. He’s being denied though at times, that Sesko header at the end v Spurs, Casemiro not finishing the header first half v Palace, Yoro v Newcastle.

All guilt edged chances missed.
 
Stickz said:
He’s got a serious chance. He’s being denied though at times, that Sesko header at the end v Spurs, Casemiro not finishing the header first half v Palace, Yoro v Newcastle.

All guilt edged chances missed.
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To be fair, I’m sure Giggs et al watched their fair share of perfect passes screwed up by a striker. Comes with the territory. The flip side are assists where they play a simple pass and the striker does all the work. I think Bruno got an assist for Cunha’s screamer against Arsenal?
 
Pogue Mahone said:
To be fair, I’m sure Giggs et al watched their fair share of perfect passes screwed up by a striker. Comes with the territory. The flip side are assists where they play a simple pass and the striker does all the work. I think Bruno got an assist for Cunha’s screamer against Arsenal?
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That was Mainoo, he got assist for Dorgu screamer.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
To be fair, I’m sure Giggs et al watched their fair share of perfect passes screwed up by a striker. Comes with the territory. The flip side are assists where they play a simple pass and the striker does all the work. I think Bruno got an assist for Cunha’s screamer against Arsenal?
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Dorgu goal but I take the point, also the Mount free kick away to Palace.
 
Stickz said:
Dorgu goal but I take the point, also the Mount free kick away to Palace.
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To be fair to Bruno, the really big difference between him and the other players he’s up against for assist records is they all played in great teams under great managers. To be in with a shout of the record after playing over half a season in central midfield, for a team managed by Ruben fecking Amorim, is truly remarkable.
 
neverdie said:
I always thought the record would be higher -- in the 20s.
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The assist record will always will be much lower than the goal-scoring record. The most obvious reason is penalties, but I think that even if you remove those the goal-scoring record is still significantly higher.

You can score goals alone through your own brilliance. But a genius pass that is just as hard (if not harder) as the most beautiful goal can still be missed by your team mate. And then there are "hockey assists". Sometimes the pass before the assist is the most impressive one. But Bruno has a few of those as well of course.
 
Scandi Red said:
The assist record will always will be much lower than the goal-scoring record. The most obvious reason is penalties, but I think that even if you remove those the goal-scoring record is still significantly higher.

You can score goals alone through your own brilliance. But a genius pass that is just as hard (if not harder) as the most beautiful goal can still be missed by your team mate. And then there are "hockey assists". Sometimes the pass before the assist is the most impressive one. But Bruno has a few of those as well of course.
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Does winning a penalty count as an assist? The discrepancy has to be down to goals where there are no assist. Presumably when the last touch of the ball was by an opposition player. Which would include rebounds etc. That’s pretty common, I’d say.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Does winning a penalty count as an assist?
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In the official PL stats: no.

But on Fantasy Premier League and some stat sites like Transfermarkt they count (which might explain why OP has Beckham on 16 assists, whereas the official PL numbers are 15).

Bruno doesn't win many penalties anyway, though. Probably because he's not a dribbler (and is light as a feather + a bit of a diver).
 
Pogue Mahone said:
To be fair to Bruno, the really big difference between him and the other players he’s up against for assist records is they all played in great teams under great managers. To be in with a shout of the record after playing over half a season in central midfield, for a team managed by Ruben fecking Amorim, is truly remarkable.
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Not even just the record itself, but to even be in with a shout of overtaking Nani and Becks - who both played in title winning teams (one making a CL final too) - is incredible.

Sesko has potential, and Mbeumo is (usually) a very good finisher, but it's miles away from who Nani and Becks had to work with. Rooney, Berbatov, Chicharito, Yorke, Cole, Solskjaer, Sheringham.
 
ifightdragons said:
Yes he will.

All the while not making us any better as a team.

Every time he plays, there is a giant hole in our midfield because he is all over the place.

And everytime we have the ball, everything needs to go through him.

Look at United before and after we bought him.
He has made us no better.
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That is harsh, but I kind of agree with some of it. He is too busy worrying about himself and how many assists he can get, he rushes passes trying to force things that are never on, instead of keeping the ball and recycling it, even if it means the team will get countered.

He really does force his passes a lot and when it doesn't come off you get the Newcastle game or the Europa League final against Spurs, where he loses the ball 15+ times and offers no control in the middle.

Most of the time he carries the team with game winning moments though, we need to build around him so that the two midfielders behind him are the ones controlling the middle and preventing counters. We just don't have the right centre midfielders yet to cover that part of his game.
 
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