DWelbz19
Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016
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Obviously not, because you have people congratulating the decision to move the best no.10 in football to play as a CMI mean... Isnt that obvious?

Obviously not, because you have people congratulating the decision to move the best no.10 in football to play as a CMI mean... Isnt that obvious?
First half of the season version of Rice he wins it. On balance Bruno has been the best player in the league. BUT you can see how the best player in a title winning side of a team who haven’t won a league for more than 20 years gets given the award. It should purely be based on performance but these things do always have a bit of context around them. It’s not always merit.
So does De Bruyne, during the season Liverpool ended their title drought no lessDavid Ginola says hello.
Yeh there are times this doesn’t happen, Scott Parker as well, even that season Gareth Bale should have won it. But you could see an English player who is the most important player of the title winning side who hasn’t won for a long time would be given the award because of the wider context. Not saying it should happen, but it wouldn’t be surprising in the least.David Ginola says hello.
So does De Bruyne, during the season Liverpool ended their title drought no less

Actually hilarious that Bruno to Casemiro is the deadliest combo in Premier League this season.Set piece merchant.
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All that and still didn't win the league that season. Womp womp.24 goals and 20 assists from open play for Henry in 02/03. What a player.
It almost feels unfair to take that record!
I think more to the assists he should have had where our players missed when they were unmarked but yes Amorim didn’t help either.Imagine how many assists Bruno could be on without Amorim putting the shackles on him
Sky got their stats wrong, he had two assists from corners. Was watching assist for that season. Obviously still very impressive! Vid for those to enjoy too.24 goals and 20 assists from open play for Henry in 02/03. What a player.
It almost feels unfair to take that record!
Our 12/13 league win was largely thanks to RvP and it was impressive how much of impact he had but when you look at Salah's number last season, both in terms of goals scored but also assists... Incredible. Should've left for some big money league after that, was perfect way to end his Liverpool career.Set piece merchant.
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Yeah, there's no way £100m would've replaced a world class player in goat mode.
Yeah, there's no way £100m would've replaced a world class player in goat mode.
Yeah, there's no way £100m would've replaced a world class player in goat mode.
Sky got their stats wrong, he had two assists from corners. Was watching assist for that season. Obviously still very impressive! Vid for those to enjoy too.
Rex Orange County - Never enoughWhat's the name of that song?
Football was definitely better back then before all this analytics shite fecked everything.
Sky got their stats wrong, he had two assists from corners. Was watching assist for that season. Obviously still very impressive! Vid for those to enjoy too.
Sky got their stats wrong, he had two assists from corners. Was watching assist for that season. Obviously still very impressive! Vid for those to enjoy too.
Because its united and its been such a taking point this season with arsenal. Of course the massive difference is arsenal's tactics are all built around set pieces.Bit confused why "open play/set pieces" is being used like 'penalty goals' when a set piece could be a brilliant perfectly delivered long range cross and a open play assist could be a 3 yard sideways pass to tee up someone else's 30 yard worldy. Doesn't seem to really work as a value judgement. He's also by far the biggest chance creator in the league so it's clearly not just corner spamming.
Of course they count, but we have probably the world's best set piece attacker in the world playing for us. Without Casemiro next season, those set-piece assists will not be anywhere near what it is now. To me open play assists will always be more valuable in the long run like open play goals are more valuable than penalty goals when judging strikers.Bit confused why "open play/set pieces" is being used like 'penalty goals' when a set piece could be a brilliant perfectly delivered long range cross and a open play assist could be a 3 yard sideways pass to tee up someone else's 30 yard worldy. Doesn't seem to really work as a value judgement. He's also by far the biggest chance creator in the league so it's clearly not just corner spamming.
Bit confused why "open play/set pieces" is being used like 'penalty goals' when a set piece could be a brilliant perfectly delivered long range cross and a open play assist could be a 3 yard sideways pass to tee up someone else's 30 yard worldy. Doesn't seem to really work as a value judgement. He's also by far the biggest chance creator in the league so it's clearly not just corner spamming.
Yeah, there's no way £100m would've replaced a world class player in goat mode.
Obviously not, because you have people congratulating the decision to move the best no.10 in football to play as a CM
Well, Wolves would be Europa contender, MU would be run-away championImagine where he'd be if the first half of the season wasn't spent as a CM in a dysfunctional side.
Very topical discussion, I don't think it's done to slight Bruno - you'd have to be really dumb to not see a difference between separating penalty goals/goals (which is a fair split) and open play assists/set piece assists (which is interesting to see, but has no real relevance).Bit confused why "open play/set pieces" is being used like 'penalty goals' when a set piece could be a brilliant perfectly delivered long range cross and a open play assist could be a 3 yard sideways pass to tee up someone else's 30 yard worldy. Doesn't seem to really work as a value judgement. He's also by far the biggest chance creator in the league so it's clearly not just corner spamming.
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What if our players scored all the chances he puts on a plate for them?Set piece merchant.
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Oh yes there was. Never a majority opinion perhaps, but there was definitely people supporting it. Just like there was even more people convinced he's a problem for this team (many of whom will come crawling out again as soon as we hit a rough spot), and even more people who considered it a big mistake not to ship him out this summer. Just look at his average match rating here this season - 5.9. That reflects lots of delusional 3 and 4 ratings.I dont remember anyone congratulating it. But he can do it. None of our players can do even half of what he can do as a #10 though so we're obviously going to miss him there
Oh yes there was. Never a majority opinion perhaps, but there was definitely people supporting it. Just like there was even more people convinced he's a problem for this team (many of whom will come crawling out again as soon as we hit a rough spot), and even more people who considered it a big mistake not to ship him out this summer. Just look at his average match rating here this season - 5.9. That reflects lots of delusional 3 and 4 ratings.
There were people who not only thought Bruno could be used at CM (I am one of them), but also that he should.So you've changed the goalpost there.
Supporting it and celebrating it are 2 different things. 1 says he can do it which clearly he obviously can. The other makes it sound like they're "celebrating" it as if hes better in that position or that he wouldnt be missed as an AM.
He's obviously not better as a CM, but hes better than our CMs however our AMs cant playmake so we'd need 2 Brunos if Bruno is going to play as a CM.
I will admit I thought Cunha would be a better standin for Bruno than he has been. But thats the major failing with playing Bruno in CM is not having players half as good to play as #10s. Cunha and Mbeumo arent, although Mbeumo obviously gets on the scoresheet and Cunha to a lesser degree. They cant be tasked with creating even half as much as Bruno does from AM because hes more than twice the players they are. They can just get some goals. And Mount is even worse.