Forget about throwing the game at Brighton now. Trash Brighton next week.
Can Bruno break the PL assists record? | BY JOVE, HE'S BROKE THE RECORD
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In the latest edition of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) chats to author, Dan Williamson, about his new book 'If I Hadnt Seen Such Riches' which chronicles our 1990/91 European Cup Winners Cup victory, which is a trip down memory lane for those old enough to remember it and a vital history lesson for those who don't.
He deserved the outright record today. Players have been missing sitters he's set up for them for a few weeks but the last 10 minutes of the match today was almost comical. He laid about four chances on a plate and nobody could finish their dinner.
If Sesko returns next week he might get it.
If Sesko returns next week he might get it.
Or, just a top team now. His skillset would scale up I think and in teams like Man City or Bayern Munich he would be/have been sensational.
I don't know about that particular quote, but I did find this, which seems to be from three months ago:
Which is basically the same discussion, and I don't think you can say it's Carragher that's undervaluing Bruno.
(Also, his 'winning something' point is not specifically about the league.)
So yeah, probably a bullshit quote to get people to bite.
'Welcome to Manchester United, you're speaking with Bruno Fernandes. How may I assist you today?'
"No, this is Patrick"
It's the Bruno show next week, I hope the team don't think about it too much as it should just come naturally!
I do want him to take the record in his own right but I honestly don't think it matters if he does. He's up there with the Premier League greats now. Where he belongs.
I personally wouldn’t put Bruno in that category either for the same reason. Although this can be considered unfair I guess because the likes of Roy Keane aren’t any worse of a player just because they happen to play for Ireland internationally and can’t always be blamed for not overcoming teammate deficiencies. However even if Gerrard did win a champions league he won feck all else and Carragher constantly considers him up there with the likes of Scholes and Lampard. Let’s be honest if we use this type of criteria then Gerrard and Lampard are both miles behind Keane and Scholes as they won nowhere near as much and the likes of Matt Le Tissier is a bum because he was fighting relegation most years.
I don’t think Carragher said it but it would be stupid if he did. Bruno might not be a great on the level of say a Rooney but on consistent yearly performance he’s definitely a great. I mean there’s an argument he has been a top 5-10 performer in the league almost every season he’s been here.
Yeah and the fact he played deeper until JanuaryIf he actually breaks the record against Brighton with the players he's working with compared to who Henry and De Bryune had
If it was so much easier now then why is Bruno the only one anywhere near this number?
Yes. Some of those X quotes are undoubtedly fake. But what's not fake is Gobby Ogbonlawhore saying the same thing on Talk Sport. .
They're falling over themselves to downplay Bruno's assist record. "Sometimes you can pass it 2 yards and the player goes on a great run and scores and there's an assist". Gobby is an absolute Clown!
They're falling over themselves to downplay Bruno's assist record. "Sometimes you can pass it 2 yards and the player goes on a great run and scores and there's an assist". Gobby is an absolute Clown!
One more next week would be perfect.
Can't imagine how many he'd have if he had more clinical forwards to put the ball away for most of his time at the club, should have had maybe 3 more yesterday.
Can't imagine how many he'd have if he had more clinical forwards to put the ball away for most of his time at the club, should have had maybe 3 more yesterday.
Shearer's logic is flawed as usual. Surely equalling the record when playing in a team that's less dominant and controlling is more of an achievement than doing it in teams that steamroller opponents nine times out of 10.
I've deleted a whole bunch of posts from the page which appear to be fake quotes from random accounts. I can't find anything anywhere legit which indicates they said what was being posted. Please try and be sensible with what you're posting and with who is posting it.
I think it’s fair to say Gerrard is a premier league great through, probably sitting outside of any justifiable criteria. He just is. Maybe it’s because he stuck around at one club for his whole tenure, or maybe it’s because he played for England. He was without a doubt up there too, so no one is saying the success of the club should be the sole criteria…?
Bruno has been magnificent this season, so I think if we replicates it next season with a trophy to boot we can consider him in that top category. I don’t think we can say Bruno has been as consistent or influential for us as Gerrard was in many ways for Liverpool - yet
Feeding off scraps until this season (and even then, so many wasted chances).
I find it staggering that so many are so invested in this. It seemed to be the focus of our play yesterday. Ultimately, as a club, it is irrelevant. Again, I hope the players will just play their normal game against Brighton and not think about this in the slightest.
Seems like we will field a changed team for Brighton so Bruno’s chances of breaking the record might not be as great. Either way, its a great achievement to be joint top.
I think it’s more that Bruno has been an absolute standout player for us for the last 5.5 years and unfortunately doesn’t get the recognition he deserves because he has been playing in a sub-par team. This record is a legitimate achievement that stand on its own and finally gives him the recognition he deserves. If he was playing in United teams of the past, I doubt there would be so much focus on this.
Yeah, so pleased to see he’s at least equalled it, so he has his name in the history books now. Very deserving. I actually think he’ll create a couple of chances on Sunday, as usual. It’s just whether his teammates can take those chances, as we saw in the Forest game.
He'll win players' player of the year, and he's already been our player of the season and football writers' player of the season. That's plenty. I understand him wanting the record, of course, and it's phenomenal to have 20 assists in the league, but I don't like seeing the team focused on that particularly.
Yeah agree. It was difficult to watch at times when we were only a goal up but the Bruno focus meant poor execution in the final third, even from Bruno himself. We have got to get away from this focusing on individuals.
Also agree and i feel it myself. But the fans need to get away from this. The only thing that should matter is pushing the club towards the top silverware. Individual player recognition will come naturally. We can't allow the squad to get distracted with these side quests or think that individual awards matter.
Hopefully Sesko will be fit!
Disappointing that from Keane.
Bruno never said that and the OTT fake dramatics from him is something I’d expect from Neville but less so Keane.
Bruno never said that and the OTT fake dramatics from him is something I’d expect from Neville but less so Keane.
That’s mad. I think this is being blown way out of proportion. I’m not sure Bruno played much different to normal really. He shot a few times when players were in decent enough positions and he wasn’t taking every corner. The assist record was of course in his mind but he wasn’t doing everything possible to achieve it.
the media and the online "pundits' are trying their best to discredit this .
Hopefully he goes out on sunday and gets another 2 just to make it official and people can spend the summer moaning
Hopefully he goes out on sunday and gets another 2 just to make it official and people can spend the summer moaning
Why do people seem to think that open play assists are more impressive? If anything it’s less as you could get an assist for passing the ball to someone who does all the work. Set piece assists show the quality of his delivery.
I kind of agree this is overblown. I doubt anyone knew who the previous 'title holder' was up until a few weeks ago. I've never, ever heard it mention before that Beckham was our previous club record holder. Assists have always been noted and important but these last two or three years they've been given a prominence that they never were before. It's because we're all now obsessed with stats. Go back to the Fergie era I don't think I ever read, saw or heard anyone speak about how many assists someone would get in a season. You might read it in a season review annual or something but that would be it.
Nobody remembers who was our lead assist merchant (or whatever the term is) in the Treble winning season. Or the 07/08 season. We could give it an educated guess but it's the footballing equivalent of the gender reveal party. It really wasn't a thing anyone cared about five minutes ago.
Nobody remembers who was our lead assist merchant (or whatever the term is) in the Treble winning season. Or the 07/08 season. We could give it an educated guess but it's the footballing equivalent of the gender reveal party. It really wasn't a thing anyone cared about five minutes ago.
I agree its overblown but him saying he's been deliveratly looking to pass and not score is not "WOW". If they're all leading to goals what's the issue? Complete nonsense.
He took on 2 shots on Sunday that I thought he should've passed too
Im not sure what the hell else Roy expects Bruno to do more. Bruno is producing levels higher than anyone else on the pitch every game. If players were finishing all the chances Bruno creates, Bruno would be light years above everyone... yet Roy still finds the negative side of it
Why? Bruno has had scant reward for carrying United for the last 4+ years and this would be something to reward him. I have no issue with what we were doing last game and giving it to Bruno at every opportunity so he could hit that record.
Keane is just a mardy fecker who gets little joy from anything football related. What about the guy that scored the goal. The guy that scored the goal gets the plaudits 99% of the time. A player puts it on an absolute plate for a forward with a beautiful pass and the striker wheels off like hes gods gift when a toddler could have finished the chance.
Luke Shaw scored a goal and all the players made a big effort to celebrate with him. Its just nice to see. We aren't playing for anything at this point in the season, we can play for Bruno a little you miserable cnut.
It’s not like he’s created a billion more opportunities than anyone else in the league.
Oh wait.
Even when a United player has done something irrefutably brilliant we’ve got the media (and our own legends!) trying to discredit it.
If it was a James Maddison doing this you’d have 100% of non Arsenal media saying he’s the best in the league.
Oh wait.
Even when a United player has done something irrefutably brilliant we’ve got the media (and our own legends!) trying to discredit it.
If it was a James Maddison doing this you’d have 100% of non Arsenal media saying he’s the best in the league.
What he said would have made sense if this weren’t a meaningless end-of-season game for both teams.
I don’t get this feeling that he’s somehow owed something by the club for having sacrificed himself for being the main man at United whom the team is built around, takes the pens, is the captain, is earning 300K a week. He’s at a great club and he’s the main man.
Keane and Parker are absolutely spot on. Glad someone is above this stuff.
Keane is a miserable man and also a bit of a rent a gob. I like him, but he often says things for the sake of having an opinion.
I also thought Bruno was a little too focused on the record last game but, realistically, it's a meaningless end of season game (which we won) and it's clear the whole team (not just him) are desperate for him to get the record. It's a nice end of season side quest bonus for them. There's nothing to lose and he didn't do anything outrageous to justify Keane's nonsense.
I also thought Bruno was a little too focused on the record last game but, realistically, it's a meaningless end of season game (which we won) and it's clear the whole team (not just him) are desperate for him to get the record. It's a nice end of season side quest bonus for them. There's nothing to lose and he didn't do anything outrageous to justify Keane's nonsense.
Exactly. How is all that context being ignored?
After hearing Keane's meltdown, I'm hoping everybody in the squad does everything in their power to get him the record against Forrest.
Had feck all to play for anyway, might as well focus on making history and pissing off the most annoying talking heads in the process
Had feck all to play for anyway, might as well focus on making history and pissing off the most annoying talking heads in the process