McGrathsipan
Dawn’s less famous husband
Id disagree.Both aren't related to each other.
Doesnt matter anyway
Id disagree.Both aren't related to each other.
Logic took a beating in your post. I wouldn't call it an insult though.are u insulting me?
He was one of our best players last season. He was our best outfield player till the time he got redcarded in the Arsenal match. His poor/average form only started ever since that Spurs match.Of course he is. I'm not against social media and I'm not actively trying to trash his lifestyle or pick on him because he's Paul Pogba. I'm just questioning whether he has too many distractions in his social life and is failing to prioritise improving his game because of it.
Having millions of dollars at 25 and building your own brand outside of football is most certainly a distraction. It may well not be enough of a distraction to hinder your commitment on the pitch (which is what all posters are saying in this thread) but I'm just questioning whether it is given how progressively worse his performances have been since he joined on a bumper contract to Manchester United.
How do you know he is distracting by his money? Did he looks like drunk at 3 in the morning everyday? You basically need to live with Pogba 24/7 to know how it affects him, else you just make assumption.Of course he is. I'm not against social media and I'm not actively trying to trash his lifestyle or pick on him because he's Paul Pogba. I'm just questioning whether he has too many distractions in his social life and is failing to prioritise improving his game because of it.
Having millions of dollars at 25 and building your own brand outside of football is most certainly a distraction. It may well not be enough of a distraction to hinder your commitment on the pitch (which is what all posters are saying in this thread) but I'm just questioning whether it is given how progressively worse his performances have been since he joined on a bumper contract to Manchester United.
I would. Clearly trying to make out I am stupid because I have an opinion.Logic took a beating in your post. I wouldn't call it an insult though.
You don't need to look further than Lingard to see the point. He's been fantastic of late while being as active on social media as he was some time back when he used to get shit for it as he wasn't delivering on the pitch.Fair point. I find Ronaldo a specimen in terms of commitment though - he is notoriously over committed to being the best at the sport.
You’re insinuating rather than speaking facts.Of course he is. I'm not against social media and I'm not actively trying to trash his lifestyle or pick on him because he's Paul Pogba. I'm just questioning whether he has too many distractions in his social life and is failing to prioritise improving his game because of it.
Having millions of dollars at 25 and building your own brand outside of football is most certainly a distraction. It may well not be enough of a distraction to hinder your commitment on the pitch (which is what all posters are saying in this thread) but I'm just questioning whether it is given how progressively worse his performances have been since he joined on a bumper contract to Manchester United.
No, one illogical post doesn't mean you're stupid. It'd be stupid of me to make such a leap based on a single post and trust me, I'm not stupid, I'm awesome.I would. Clearly trying to make out I am stupid because I have an opinion.
Nice one.
As far as I'm aware, Lingard's milly rock at the emirates was a massive hit with fans? In fact, Lingard is actually seen by most as a committed player, hard worker etc.Inventive afro hairstyles, hip hop dancing, handshakes = no commitment
Definitely a hint of racism the way people go on about them being detrimental.
It's like he's calling you stupid by even suggesting it. Insultception.No, one illogical post doesn't mean you're stupid. It'd be stupid of me to make such a leap based on a single post and trust me, I'm not stupid, I'm awesome.
Also depends on your hair cut.Not this shit again.
I’m gonna be bad at my job next week because I just posted on Instagram.
Bad performances bring criticism.Both aren't related to each other.
feck, you're right. Are you calling me stupid @McGrathsipan?It's like he's calling you stupid by even suggesting it. Insultception.
We'd have to just be civil and disagree on our judgements of Pogba's performances.He was one of our best players last season. He was our best outfield player till the time he got redcarded in the Arsenal match. His poor/average form only started ever since that Spurs match.
You don't need to be chronically drunk or even miss training (these are drastic and obvious signs that he's not committed). But you can give away activities that can make some question whether time would be better spent on improving form.How do you know he is distracting by his money? Did he looks like drunk at 3 in the morning everyday? You basically need to live with Pogba 24/7 to know how it affects him, else you just make assumption.
Lingard was getting the same analysis last season and earlier this season as well though. I'd agree with your point, but I also think some players get less leeway than others.As far as I'm aware, Lingard's milly rock at the emirates was a massive hit with fans? In fact, Lingard is actually seen by most as a committed player, hard worker etc.
Lingard's dancing and handshakes are viewed positively because he performs on the pitch.
Pogba's dancing and handshakes are viewed negatiely because he is in poor form.
That's how it's always worked, very few care about player's lives until they start underporming. Then, their life gets micro-analyzed.
Yes. You caught me.feck, you're right. Are you calling me stupid @McGrathsipan?
Tinder I'd say for Giggs.Giggs would have been an instagram addict if it were around in his early days.
He had tv cameras following him on holiday after-all.
Didn’t Ferguson have to tell Giggs to choose whether he wanted to be a celebrity or whether he wanted to be a footballer because he was more interested in partying than training?Giggs would have been an instagram addict if it were around in his early days.
He had tv cameras following him on holiday after-all.
Don't get so offended. I haven't "trashed" any lifestyle. I've just questioned whether he is allowing himself to get distracted more than others.You’re insinuating rather than speaking facts.
Pogba has had millions of dollars for many years, this constant speaking about his lifestyle and riches comes across as jealousy rather than any critical analysis or depth of thinking. And you are trying to trash his lifestyle based on his social media presence.
He’s rich, social, and a happy guy.
You can’t take that away from him.
He likes to change his hairstyle often, there is literally nothing wrong with that.
That’s all there is to it.
Huh?Yes. You caught me.
Maybe you can arrange another warning or even a banning?
Giggs use to be in the Hacienda all the time. My god of the caf had been around then the threads would have been incredible.Didn’t Ferguson have to tell Giggs to choose whether he wanted to be a celebrity or whether he wanted to be a footballer because he was more interested in partying than training?
And that’s as one of the reasons why he sold Lee Sharpe?
I’m sure I’ve read something like that before
Bad performance brings criticism. Brings it with social media is absurd though. Just because the player plays poorly means he should stop posting completely on FB or Twitter and got isolated from the world till his performance improves. Both aren't related. Let's separate between them please.No it doesn't reflect commitment, but it does affect reactions after the event. Why make yourself more of a target than you need to?
Bad performances bring criticism.
Bad performances plus attention-seeking brings extra criticism and added pressure. That pressure then makes Pogba an even bigger target. If he doesn't perform in the next match, the pressure builds. And that carries on and on.
Pogba tends to wilt under pressure. He's not doing himself any favours by making himself stand out when he's playing below par.
He makes his own life difficult by shining the spotlight on himself when his arse is hanging out for all to see.
It tends to be the case with extroverted players; they put a lot of their life on social media and there are a lot of trolls and bitter people that don't like others enjoying themselves.Lingard was getting the same analysis last season and earlier this season as well though. I'd agree with your point, but I also think some players get less leeway than others.
Nobody is offended, it’s just lazy critique done to sensationalise headlines in order to grab headlines/clicks.Don't get so offended. I haven't "trashed" any lifestyle. I've just questioned whether he is allowing himself to get distracted.
Also Beckham - I think Ferguson was sick of the hype and circus around Beckham, leading to his decision to sell him.Didn’t Ferguson have to tell Giggs to choose whether he wanted to be a celebrity or whether he wanted to be a footballer because he was more interested in partying than training?
And that’s as one of the reasons why he sold Lee Sharpe?
I’m sure I’ve read something like that before
My post is about 'pressure'. Try reading it again.Bad performance brings criticism. Brings it with social media is absurd though. Just because the player plays poorly means he should stop posting completely on FB or Twitter and got isolated from the world till his performance improves. Both aren't related. Let's separate between them please.
Beckham was always caring about how he looks and his hair. Never affected him.