Can we please stop using 4-2-3-1?!

Peanut Butter

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4-3-3 probably brings the best out of Pogba in certain games,but should we play 3 in midfield against Derby county at home?Or against Bournemouth,west ham,and almost all the bottom half mid table teams?Pogba was excellent yesterday,but he was also outstanding against Arsenal at the Emirates,and guess what?We played with just 2 midfielders that day....

So I think that we are over reacting to him performing excellently in a 3,but the lads been phenomenal even in a 2,so let's not forget that.Its utterly pointless to have Herrera and Matic in midfield against the weaker teams,1 defensive midfielder alongside a Pogba is more than enough...,
Liverpool always use a 4-3-3 home and away.

Yeah we should stick with it. If Pogba has more freedom in this system then we need to keep using it.

I'll be so annoyed if we revert to 4-2-3-1 on Friday.
 

El Jefe

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Every season there seems to be a formation that's described as 'dead' or 'outdated'. Its all bollocks really.

Any formation can work as long as you have the right personnel. As some mentioned Jose used it at Chelsea and Madrid.

As @Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said we don't have attacking players of the required level so whether its the now popular 4-3-3 or the 3-5-2, the attack isn't good enough.
 

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it is clearly Mourinho's game plan, why do you think we allowed them to have a ball most of the time in the first place? Because we want them to make a mistake so we can punish them for their mistakes to start counter-attacking, it's not the first time he did this, he did it a lot of time in his career at Chelsea, Real Madrid and Inter Milian. He knew we would concede many shots but why? Because De Gea is the best shot-stopper in the world, he has second highest saves in EPL this season, that's simple and he knows it.
It clearly wasn't mate, it wouldn't be the plan of any decent coach on earth. Any coach who went into a match prepared to give the opposition 30+ goal scoring opportunities to a side with Arsenals quality needs sacked and/or is a moron.

Also it's gets into the realm of semantics but we didn't ''allow'' them to do anything, sometimes coaches go into matches knowing the other team are better at keeping possession and so you keep it tight at the back and hope to hit them on the break. But thats not what happened in that Arsenal match (not in the last 60-70 mins anyway) we got outplayed and dominated and we were lucky DeGea turned in a worldie performance to keep them out.

Playing that formation with our current players and the way Mourinho sets it up. We simply could never have controlled that game, we just couldn't stop Arsenals attacks so again we never ''allowed'' them to do anything. They did what they wanted and our players were hanging on and defending for their lives. None of that would have been a part of a pragmatic coach like Mourinho's plan.