Carabao Cup 2020/21

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Fourth round

  • Liverpool v Arsenal
  • Burnley v Manchester City
  • Brentford v Fulham
  • Everton v West Ham
  • Aston Villa v Stoke City
  • Leyton Orient/Tottenham v Chelsea
  • Newport County v Newcastle United
  • Brighton v Manchester United
 

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This cup will cost City. Either through injurjes or fatigue. Hasn't Pep realised yet it's a micky mouse cup.
 

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This cup will cost City. Either through injurjes or fatigue. Hasn't Pep realised yet it's a micky mouse cup.
Yeah, if makes me wonder if he has a set trophy bonus, regardless of what piece of silverware it is.
 

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Announcer just made a good point that people watching in a pub would have to go home now that sucks

edit: meant to put this in the super cup thread
 

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This cup will cost City. Either through injurjes or fatigue. Hasn't Pep realised yet it's a micky mouse cup.
Didn't cost us the last 3 seasons. and we have the squad to deal with it.
 

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It does cost you.
Don't you think the energy you waste in the cup can be utilised for the CL ?
Nope the players that play most the League Cup games play maybe once or twice in the carling cup per year. If anything we need to go deep in the Carling Cup so every player gets games.
 

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Nope the players that play most the League Cup games play maybe once or twice in the carling cup per year. If anything we need to go deep in the Carling Cup so every player gets games.
The problem is when you get to the quarter/ semi finals, Pep starts playing his strongest team and that's when the fixtures pile up with the CL and PL.
 

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The problem is when you get to the quarter/ semi finals, Pep starts playing his strongest team and that's when the fixtures pile up with the CL and PL.
Yeah, those 3 games plus with a squad where you can replace 5-6 players without anyone noticing are a big deal really.
 

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The problem is when you get to the quarter/ semi finals, Pep starts playing his strongest team and that's when the fixtures pile up with the CL and PL.
Pep usually plays mx and match teams till the final. At most its adding 3 games to the first XI players per season. Our CL failings under Pep are a combination of being mentally weak in the competition and weird tactical choices. I can't recall a single CL defeat under Pep where we looked exhasted or tired. Simply out thought (Liverpool), out gunned (Monaco) or bottled massive chances (Lyon, Spurs).

KDB played 202 minutes in the League Cup last season. Aguero 264, Laporte didn't play at all. Some players like Sterling play a little more but we have a massive squad to rotate. Mahrez, Bernardo, Sterling, Torres can all play on the wings. You need over 60 games to give them all time. Same with midfield. Lets say KDB is gonna start all 38 league games and every CL game, that means Foden, Gundogan and potentially Bernardo are all trying to get a seasons worth of games beside him. We could barely play Foden last season, remove the league cup and he'd have nothing, and very little for Zinchenko, Cancelo, Jesus etc..

To put this in context, we didn't have a single player over 4000 minutes last season despite winning the League Cup and playing more games than anyone in England. LIverpool had 3, United had 3.
Liverpool had 5 players put up more minutes than any City player in 2 less games.

We are in a very luxurious position where we have the squad to play all comps with a strong team and it can never be an excuse for failing in the CL.
 

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Pep usually plays mx and match teams till the final. At most its adding 3 games to the first XI players per season. Our CL failings under Pep are a combination of being mentally weak in the competition and weird tactical choices. I can't recall a single CL defeat under Pep where we looked exhasted or tired. Simply out thought (Liverpool), out gunned (Monaco) or bottled massive chances (Lyon, Spurs).

KDB played 202 minutes in the League Cup last season. Aguero 264, Laporte didn't play at all. Some players like Sterling play a little more but we have a massive squad to rotate. Mahrez, Bernardo, Sterling, Torres can all play on the wings. You need over 60 games to give them all time. Same with midfield. Lets say KDB is gonna start all 38 league games and every CL game, that means Foden, Gundogan and potentially Bernardo are all trying to get a seasons worth of games beside him. We could barely play Foden last season, remove the league cup and he'd have nothing, and very little for Zinchenko, Cancelo, Jesus etc..

To put this in context, we didn't have a single player over 4000 minutes last season despite winning the League Cup and playing more games than anyone in England. LIverpool had 3, United had 3.
Liverpool had 5 players put up more minutes than any City player in 2 less games.

We are in a very luxurious position where we have the squad to play all comps with a strong team and it can never be an excuse for failing in the CL.
It's not just about minutes that the players play. It's about the extra headache of playing these extra games which can be spent preparing for other games which are more important. (CL and PL)

You won this Trophy last season (I think) and it's already forgot about. In fact people were saying it was a crap season.
 

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Yeah, if makes me wonder if he has a set trophy bonus, regardless of what piece of silverware it is.
Soriano himself doesn't count Carabao Cup as a trophy so who knows. Just think he doesnt wanna leave trophyless if he eventually decides this is his last season.
 

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It's not just about minutes that the players play. It's about the extra headache of playing these extra games which can be spent preparing for other games which are more important. (CL and PL)

You won this Trophy last season (I think) and it's already forgot about. In fact people were saying it was a crap season.
Of course its about minutes, winning the trophy doesn't matter but players playing football does. The League Cup has zero effect on our performances in our competitions and hasn't in 3 years.
We won the league cup 3 years in a row, in the other two seasons we got 198 points (neither were crap seasons). The bottom line is our players play less than other top clubs star players.
 

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This cup will cost City. Either through injurjes or fatigue. Hasn't Pep realised yet it's a micky mouse cup.
Injuries are part of football. You don't want your players to get injured, stop playing football. Players can get injured anywhere, even in training.
 

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Got a sneaky feeling both managers would not be too upset with a loss tonight.
 

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How's Jose sacrificing the EL then, that's still a pretty strong lineup? Not the first XI players, but then you assume the first XI will play on Thurs and then against us on Sunday, they'll be knackered.
 

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How's Jose sacrificing the EL then, that's still a pretty strong lineup? Not the first XI players, but then you assume the first XI will play on Thurs and then against us on Sunday, they'll be knackered.
It is just typical Mourinho mindgame. He still wants to win, but rotated the team.
 

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Mendy with his first game for us. Hopefully early signs are good. Chillwell gets his first start too with Giroud in there. Its the Carabao Cup but it'll irk me a bit if we lost to Mou.
 

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They've got the dumb fake crowd nonsense on both Sky channels.