He did a bang average job so not really arsed.
He seems a nice fella, though. so good luck to him.
I hope the next guy actually coaches and improves the players rather than thinking £ is the answer to everything.
Carlo Ancelotti | Brazil manager
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Nik (@Rood), Jamie (@Vault Dweller) and Ed (@That'sHernandez) give their end of season awards out! They celebrate the best players, goals and moments of the season (there were some, honestly) and also give out awards for the worst and most disappointing players/moments of the season.
They then discuss all the latest transfer rumours and get into the potential ins and outs this summer at Old Trafford.
He seems a nice fella, though. so good luck to him.
I hope the next guy actually coaches and improves the players rather than thinking £ is the answer to everything.
What's with Barca and Madrid hiring Everton managers?
At Madrid and Barce will be delighted with that he’s not the manager he once was.
Shame for Everton though he was a big manager for them, a good summer window and maybe they would have pushed on. Not sure who they go for now, similar situation to Spurs.
Shame for Everton though he was a big manager for them, a good summer window and maybe they would have pushed on. Not sure who they go for now, similar situation to Spurs.
Picanto representing!
Everton actually look a decent project now the new stadium is going ahead. Reckon Hasenhuttl or Potter might end up there - seem like very hands on coaches who aren't going to demand loads of transfer money and improve players, love the academy and have teams that play proactively/don't just sit behind a wall of defenders a la Big Sam.
Maybe a sign that Real are going to squeeze another season or two out of the current squad and just slowly rebuild over time, rather than expensively reassemble a whole new team quickly?
Not an awful strategy to be honest. With Barca hamstrung and Atleti decent but hardly awe-inspiring, they're in with a shout of winning the league every year. If it means they have little chance of winning in Europe for a couple of seasons, well, they've still won it more than anyone else in the last few years. They can go a season or two without being real contenders.
Ancelotti has shown he can get a tune of a set of players without the need to buckets of cash and won't generally kick off if he doesn't get the players he wants. Probably a decent appointment in that respect.
Not an awful strategy to be honest. With Barca hamstrung and Atleti decent but hardly awe-inspiring, they're in with a shout of winning the league every year. If it means they have little chance of winning in Europe for a couple of seasons, well, they've still won it more than anyone else in the last few years. They can go a season or two without being real contenders.
Ancelotti has shown he can get a tune of a set of players without the need to buckets of cash and won't generally kick off if he doesn't get the players he wants. Probably a decent appointment in that respect.
The "or" is if you take the Ferrari, smartass.
Better manager than Koeman but don’t really feel like they looked for a new manager. He probably just opened his phone and dialed Carlo up. He didn’t do great at Everton.
Who would your top 3 be mate?
I think I would have Poch / Potter / Howe. I realise that Poch isn't gonna happen but that would be a dream signing.
The latter is risky and the former is not likely at all but they all share a similar ethos on football which I hope we move forward with in the future. Any other manager in that ilk would be good for me.
Haha, yeah who in their right mind would ever hire an Everton manager?
Maybe they just don’t have the cash to transition this summer and want to steady the ship for now. In that context it’s a solid if unexciting appointment. Would you take 6-12 months at Madrid vs a job for the next few years with a big budget at Everton? It’s a bit of a strange choice from Carlo seeing as he’s already been there done that…
Why not go for Conte?
You owners lured Ancelotti and Conte seems to be flavour of the month just now. Id like to see yous do well tbh and it would be great if Everton were the top sode in Liverpool next season
Easy redundancy package for Carlo.
Haha, yeah who in their right mind would ever hire an Everton manager?
Probably had a clause in his contract saying if a big club comes in I'm offski like plop on a shovel.
Wonder if Eddie Howe would take the Everton job, supposedly an Everton fan and just turned down Celtic.
Wonder if Eddie Howe would take the Everton job, supposedly an Everton fan and just turned down Celtic.
Perez said "I don't know" when asked why was he sacked first time.
Send the old man to hospital
Send the old man to hospital
Why not go for Conte?
You owners lured Ancelotti and Conte seems to be flavour of the month just now. Id like to see yous do well tbh and it would be great if Everton were the top sode in Liverpool next season
Conte would be great as he gets results but he has a bad attitude and fecks off after 2 seasons. We need somone that if all things go smoothly wants to build something seriously with us.
Moyes -> United
Martinez -> Belgium
Koeman -> Barcelona
Allardyce -> West Brom
Silva -> N/A
Ancelotti -> Real Madrid
Being the manager of Everton gives you a 66.66666% chance of managing a top club/nation now apparently.
Hope he asks for a Bale new contract before he's sacked
Why not go for Conte?
You owners lured Ancelotti and Conte seems to be flavour of the month just now. Id like to see yous do well tbh and it would be great if Everton were the top sode in Liverpool next season
Conte would be a risk for RM. They've had a manager in the same mould like Capello before, and he was sacked after 1 year despite winning the league. Twice.
He's a really good manager and with the way things are going at Barca in terms of finances I could see madrid winning next season
Conte to Everton not RM
Given the ESL debacle, I can believe this.
Was good to see a big name manager take on a non top 6 club but just shows they struggle without top players.
I agree on Poch, if only he was available.
I think I would take a gamble on Potter. And if he's good, he'll be someone who'll stick around in the long term.
This.
It is not surprising. They are not doing great financially and have the stadium work to pay for. Ancelotti will keep everyone happy and squeeze the very last bit of productivity and impact out of them. In the meanwhile, they will sign 2-3 players every transfer window.
I’m assuming Zidane was hoping for a big transfer window this summer. That squad needs at least 5-6 players, if not more, to be a proper RM squad again.
Would you take Conte if he is up for it?
Howe is a good manager, I think he’d be a great fit there
He had tremendous backing to get them up, spent very badly in the top division, never learned to defend, seemed to purposely tank the cups every year and has never had another top job anywhere else to compare the experience to.
I think it would be a really risky appointment and I would be nervous as an Everton fan. Getting smashed by the big teams consistently wouldn’t fly there.
I'd rather drive a Ferrari for a short time, and not drive for a whole year Vs driving a Kia for a year. That trademark engine sound alone is worth it
Well, that was quick and unexpected to say the least. I'm not so sure what to think about this, would had preferred someone like Pochettino or someone expected to do more of a rebuild but with Ancelotti I guess there won't be much changes within the current squad.
Oh hell, yeah! I can't see that happening, though.
Well we should be focused on our own business thats true, but competition counts. As if Lewandowski, Messi, etc start coming to our rivals it does matter I mean theres nothing as a team we can do about it but of course it makes the competition harder for us.
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I think that’s a harsh appraisal of the job he did at Bournemouth. There was decent backing in the rise up the leagues but it was still a hell of an achievement, there’s plenty of clubs who spent more during the climb, and taking a club from league 2 to the premier league, is a really incredible achievement that is often overlooked.
I also think the criticisms of his spending are very overblown too. People often point to Ibe and Solanke, who were admittedly disappointing, but both were young English players who both cost less than 20m. People often ignore many of his other signings like Ake who cost 20m and was sold for 40m, Mings was sold fordouble the price they paid for him, Wilson was bought for 3m and then sold for 20m. Then you have the likes of Mepham, Lewis Cook and Brooks who were purchased for very little, and if they were to be sold they’d be sold at many times the amount paid for them. Perhaps more pertinently than all that, is that their wage bill was consistently amongst the lowest during their time in the premiership, which is a really impressive factor as usually the wage bill is a good indicator to how a team will perform.
He hasn’t got the experience elsewhere admittedly, but taking a club from league 2 to the premiership, keeping them there for half a decade with lesser resources than most others, all while playing a progressive passing style of football isn’t something that should be ignored. Rodgers had done less when he was given the Liverpool job, Solksjaer had donee when he was given the Manchester United job , Lampard had done less when he was given the Chelsea job, Arteta had done less when given the Arsenal job. Admittedly that’s a 50% success rate (depending on one’s perspective) it shows that bigger clubs than Everton are willing to take a risk on managers without experience at the top level, why shouldn’t Everton? Especially when their last manager was a highly esteemed manager who has won everything, and it didn’t work out. It would be a risky appointment, yet Manchester United had hired 4 managers post Ferguson, and the one with the least experience has done the best job. Sometimes clubs need to look past the CV and see what a manager can offer. I think Potter would be a great choice for them, and he hasn’t got that top level experience either.
I’m going to end this overly long post with a quote from Ferguson that he shared the other day after being asked to name young managers that impressed him.
“Eddie Howe had a great period at Bournemouth, for a young manager.
I think he did very well.
Even though he's relegated it doesn't mean to say he's not a good manager, I think he is a good manager."
I can understand why Ancelotti did it but for a manager of his status and manners it seems kind of classless to have done it so fast. As if he totally despised Everton, I mean I know its Madrid but Everton at least deserves some respect.