Carlos Baleba | joins United | Announced

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These videos are absolutely pointless and their accuracy is the same as the flip of a coin. What these YouTubers are doing is whiling away our finite time before the grave.
Never a truer word was spoken. I switched off from YouTube a while back and it took a lot of effort. Pretty sure cocaine would have been easier to give up.
 
Still no official announcement? I wonder why, especially considering he likely can’t train with the club before one. Sorting out work permit renewal?
 
Still no official announcement? I wonder why, especially considering he likely can’t train with the club before one. Sorting out work permit renewal?
there’s no rush as he’s injured. ratcliffe is saving money by making him walk from the hotel to his medical.
 
Still no official announcement? I wonder why, especially considering he likely can’t train with the club before one. Sorting out work permit renewal?
Prolly watched our first game vs Hull and phoned his agent "extend my injury to September 2027"
 
But what is really your in depth analysis of how we lost the Hull game?

We didn’t lose because our midfield was overrun. It wasn’t. There was two main reasons we lost:

1) We couldn’t defend ordinaty set pieces consistently well, mainly because of concentration glitches from defenders in aerial duels (Maguire, Heaven, Shaw). Let in two goals by that. Didn’t let them in much apart from similar issues (Heaven losing McBernie another time). Nothing Baleba or Sangare would have done with that.

2) We didn’t create enough chances for all our posession, attempts and crosses. Main issue: lack of proactive movement from the attackers (Cunha and Mbeumo particularily), not fast enough attacking passes in transitional phases (Santos was the exception), not quick enough switches of side and attacking movements to stretch their defence in established play. Too mutch imprecision from key attacking players (Fernandes, Tielemans, Shaw, Maz, Mbeumo, Cunha, Dorgu). Neither Baleba nor Sangsre would have improved this, probably quite the contrary.

Santos was one of the most effective players on the pitch, and really didn’t have any issues with his role, or the role a Baleba or a Sangare would have had in that game if they played.
They breezed past our midfield, that was the start of their goals.
 
Last year we signed a keeper and 3 attackers/wingers
This year we signed a keeper and 3 midfielder
Next year we will sign a keeper and 3 defenders...

Now that is consistency!
 
These videos are absolutely pointless and their accuracy is the same as the flip of a coin. What these YouTubers are doing is whiling away our finite time before the grave.
Exactly, I still remember the ones where Donny Van de Beek was going to transform us , and of course the Onana ones. will never click on one of them again.
 
I didn't want him but now I feel at least we have him. State of this summer transfer business...
 
They breezed past our midfield, that was the start of their goals.
Not directly wrong, but a bit oversimplified explanation which enda up in the wrong conclusion in my view.

One situation was, unless I’m confusing situations, Mbeumo completely brainfarting the reception of a perfectly good pass, giving a counter-counter situation that ended up in a corner kick. If we suddenly are viewing ‘conceding a corner kick’ as ‘giving up a goal chance’, it says more about our vulnerability on set pieces, which is what should be dealt with. Regardless, Santos did nothing wrong there, and replacing him with Baleba or Sangare would have added nothing.

Second situation was Tielemans, actually untypical of him but probably typical of a player new to a team, was in the wrong position for defending the box, had to sprint out and therefore was passed too easily and conceded a free kick. Stas will tell you that a freekick from that position is not a very potent chance, even if they may result in a goal from time to time given how frequent they are. Ideally we don’t give them away, though. Regarding my post, which was about having Baleba for this game wouldn’t have changed much, or perhaps even negatively, I think it’s fairly obvious that Baleba is not an alternative to Tielemans, and certainly not against the likes of Hull. Rather, he is a player who even more allows us to play Tielemans. And even if Baleba was playing on the right sided CM position there, the chances of him positioning himself too low on occasion during his first minutes for United would be at least as likely as Tielemans doing so. Either way again, we’ll concede some free kicks regularily in those positions, we can’t expect to let in goals from them. That’s a set piece defending problem, not a midfield defending problem.
 
These videos are absolutely pointless and their accuracy is the same as the flip of a coin. What these YouTubers are doing is whiling away our finite time before the grave.

Couldn't the same be said about forums like this? :lol: (You have a valid point though)
 
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Is this still happening? I’m sure I’d heard rumours contrary to the effect that the board were adamant on making any further signings.
 
These videos are absolutely pointless and their accuracy is the same as the flip of a coin. What these YouTubers are doing is whiling away our finite time before the grave.
Absolutely. Hate these fecking videos and channels. There are so many that have aged atrociously too.
 
These videos are absolutely pointless and their accuracy is the same as the flip of a coin. What these YouTubers are doing is whiling away our finite time before the grave.
They're not pointless. They're optimistic summaries of what the buying club is hoping will transpire.

If you assume the Youtuber is trying to predict every little aspect of the future, you're probably going to be disappointed. But if you think of it as a best case analysis, it's still offers some value about what fans could potentially see and what the managers will hope to implement.

It' might just be guesswork, but at least it's somewhat informed guesswork.
 
Bingo.

A bunch of grifters and self-important arm chair experts that think because they grew up playing Subbuteo and own a dry-erase board they're Pep Guardiola incarnate. That guy spent 12 minutes on why Onana would transform United, but glossed over the fact that he's a terrible goalkeeper. Who cares if you're "Pirlo between the sticks" if you have flaccid penis for fingers and zero aptitude for protecting your goal. This was readily apparent when watching Onana's highlights whilst he was at Inter. His unorthodox (read: bad) shot stopping technique was on full display.

:Flaccid penis for fingers'
:lol::lol:

That's hilarious. Thank you I needed that laugh. Had a real shitty day
 
Not directly wrong, but a bit oversimplified explanation which enda up in the wrong conclusion in my view.

One situation was, unless I’m confusing situations, Mbeumo completely brainfarting the reception of a perfectly good pass, giving a counter-counter situation that ended up in a corner kick. If we suddenly are viewing ‘conceding a corner kick’ as ‘giving up a goal chance’, it says more about our vulnerability on set pieces, which is what should be dealt with. Regardless, Santos did nothing wrong there, and replacing him with Baleba or Sangare would have added nothing.

Second situation was Tielemans, actually untypical of him but probably typical of a player new to a team, was in the wrong position for defending the box, had to sprint out and therefore was passed too easily and conceded a free kick. Stas will tell you that a freekick from that position is not a very potent chance, even if they may result in a goal from time to time given how frequent they are. Ideally we don’t give them away, though. Regarding my post, which was about having Baleba for this game wouldn’t have changed much, or perhaps even negatively, I think it’s fairly obvious that Baleba is not an alternative to Tielemans, and certainly not against the likes of Hull. Rather, he is a player who even more allows us to play Tielemans. And even if Baleba was playing on the right sided CM position there, the chances of him positioning himself too low on occasion during his first minutes for United would be at least as likely as Tielemans doing so. Either way again, we’ll concede some free kicks regularily in those positions, we can’t expect to let in goals from them. That’s a set piece defending problem, not a midfield defending problem.
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Not directly wrong, but a bit oversimplified explanation which enda up in the wrong conclusion in my view.

One situation was, unless I’m confusing situations, Mbeumo completely brainfarting the reception of a perfectly good pass, giving a counter-counter situation that ended up in a corner kick. If we suddenly are viewing ‘conceding a corner kick’ as ‘giving up a goal chance’, it says more about our vulnerability on set pieces, which is what should be dealt with. Regardless, Santos did nothing wrong there, and replacing him with Baleba or Sangare would have added nothing.

Second situation was Tielemans, actually untypical of him but probably typical of a player new to a team, was in the wrong position for defending the box, had to sprint out and therefore was passed too easily and conceded a free kick. Stas will tell you that a freekick from that position is not a very potent chance, even if they may result in a goal from time to time given how frequent they are. Ideally we don’t give them away, though. Regarding my post, which was about having Baleba for this game wouldn’t have changed much, or perhaps even negatively, I think it’s fairly obvious that Baleba is not an alternative to Tielemans, and certainly not against the likes of Hull. Rather, he is a player who even more allows us to play Tielemans. And even if Baleba was playing on the right sided CM position there, the chances of him positioning himself too low on occasion during his first minutes for United would be at least as likely as Tielemans doing so. Either way again, we’ll concede some free kicks regularily in those positions, we can’t expect to let in goals from them. That’s a set piece defending problem, not a midfield defending problem.
This is what I feel, but it's a little bit worrying, because I feel there is no alternative to him with others. I thought Santos could partner Tielemans, but he doesn't quite look like he's got the physicality. My gut says Mainoo and Tielemans doesn't really work either, but i'll wait til I see that in game.
 
This is what I feel, but it's a little bit worrying, because I feel there is no alternative to him with others. I thought Santos could partner Tielemans, but he doesn't quite look like he's got the physicality. My gut says Mainoo and Tielemans doesn't really work either, but i'll wait til I see that in game.
Saw that in AC milan friendly. Mainoo was playing a bit deeper.

It would be interesting to see which midfield partnerships work, and which dont.

I suspect Baleba--Tielesman end up being our best bet.
 
Saw that in AC milan friendly. Mainoo was playing a bit deeper.

It would be interesting to see which midfield partnerships work, and which dont.

I suspect Baleba--Tielesman end up being our best bet.
Yeah, I meant in the prem at this point, because I feel like I was wrong about Santos and Tielemans.

I think Baleba is in all the best ones:

Baleba Tielemans
Baleba Mainoo
Baleba Santos

Not sure what would be the best, if I'm honest.
 
Yeah, I meant in the prem at this point, because I feel like I was wrong about Santos and Tielemans.

I think Baleba is in all the best ones:

Baleba Tielemans
Baleba Mainoo
Baleba Santos

Not sure what would be the best, if I'm honest.
This is what I thought few days back. He actually fits pretty well with all our midfielders. Assume that he just isn't any Ugarte 2.0.
 
This is what I thought few days back. He actually fits pretty well with all our midfielders. Assume that he just isn't any Ugarte 2.0.
I think he has the benefit of physically being stronger, faster and a better dribbler. His passing is probably not quite there yet though. I'm excited to see what it brings, he'll still be a card magnet like Casemiro and Ugarte.
 
I don't really get the Ugarte 2.0 label people are giving him. He might have had a down season last year but the previous seasons he more than well showed in the league he isn't Ugarte 2.0
 
They’re going to announce it on Sunday before the game aren’t they? It’s one of their favourite recent gimmicks.
 
I don't really get the Ugarte 2.0 label people are giving him. He might have had a down season last year but the previous seasons he more than well showed in the league he isn't Ugarte 2.0
Supporting this team requires some self preservation. Skill to not get too excited and expect the worst outcome. :D Better to surprise posivitely than to be let down again.
 
We're actually delaying his announcement by days just to soften the blow we're not actually signing anyone else?

GLINEOS are worse than a government.
 
We're actually delaying his announcement by days just to soften the blow we're not actually signing anyone else?

GLINEOS are worse than a government.
His announcement won't soften any blow as can just go at them on Sunday and make it known it's not acceptable
 
I mean...each day we don't sign him is probably what...£20,000 saved in wages. Why wouldn't we wait until deadline day. 4D Chess from Brexit Jim and co.
 
I mean...each day we don't sign him is probably what...£20,000 saved in wages. Why wouldn't we wait until deadline day. 4D Chess from Brexit Jim and co.
For every week we don’t buy him we can afford another data scientist for a year
 
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