Carlos Baleba | United player | #20

definitely will be interesting to see who Carrick thinks is the better partner for Baleba or does he go false 9 with Bruno and play more of a diamond formation/4132

baleba is definitely the unicorn of the midfielders
 
Been thinking about the best midfield combination for us now.

Actually I think Mainoo (as a 6) and Baleba (as an 8) would probably be the best with a high ceiling.

Using him next to Tielemens would restrict him to playing as a 6 and limit his usefulness.

I can see him being great next to Santos as well.

Tielemens can probably play as a 10 to give Bruno a rest.

Lots of games this season so I think everybody will get a lot of minutes.

Midfield partnerships take some time to flourish. But will be an exciting year I think.

If we can just get a LB over the line and an attacker (if Zirkzee leaves).

Baleba and Tielemans ahould work fine. With both dropping or pushing depending on their strengths. For example, when we're pushed up high I'd expect Baleba to be the deeper one to cover for breaks. Whereas he can push higher to challenge for the ball when we're already sitting deeper. Tielemans might not be the first pass out of defence but he will definitely be invloved in that early build up from deep. When Baleba is asked to carry the ball from deep against a high press opposition, Tielemans should still be deep himself as a passing option, but especially in case the high risk carry of Baleba goes wrong. With Tielemans only pushing further forward when it's a bit safer for him to do so. Meaning we're not expecting him to be sprinting up and down all game. That's Baleba's job.
 
3/10 rage bait.

Although I honestly do hope Carrick actually tries to play a team at some point during the season or in a game without Bruno, you do realise you can still have him in the first 11 with any of those 3 midfield combinations.
 
At his best he’s good enough to start for Real Madrid
No doubt, he could he the signing of the summer, our first player to go up in value for a good while. The window has been dreadful Santos and Teilemens are bang average for 85m with Baleba we really could get away with it.
 
https://www.manutd.com/en/news/chan...eaks-as-premier-league-fixtures-are-announced

They've changed the scheduling of the Sept/Oct international break so it goes to a 3 week window.

Last game before the break 19th Sept, first game back 10th October.

So four games end of Sept/start of Oct, then another two games in Nov. Would rather they just clump them all together tbh. Take the whole of October to get it all out of the way if they have to. Or even better, do it all in August/Sept and start the season a few weeks later.
 
With Bruno playing where?
…as one of the two e.g.(Cunha/Bryan/Amad/(Zirkzee(!?)) behind the striker in the “dreaded” (c) TM Christmas Tree formation behind the striker…? I don’t know but we somehow seem to have built a squad for it…
 
I respect the opinion that Rashford is a terrible footballer. He was, without question, in horrific form during his last 12 months with United. That said, that horrific form was now two seasons ago. More recently, he was brilliant for Barcelona, a club whose standards of excellence are very high, arguably much higher than United...at least in recent years.
I think you'll find plenty arguing that he was far from brilliant, including, I should imagine, Hansi Flick.
 
I think you'll find plenty arguing that he was far from brilliant, including, I should imagine, Hansi Flick.
A lot of United fans have very low standards now, in their mind Rashford is top class
 
A lot of United fans have very low standards now, in their mind Rashford is top class
Show me one poster on this forum that thinks Rashford is ‘top class’…!
 
…as one of the two e.g.(Cunha/Bryan/Amad/(Zirkzee(!?)) behind the striker in the “dreaded” (c) TM Christmas Tree formation behind the striker…? I don’t know but we somehow seem to have built a squad for it…
We don’t though, because we don’t have fullbacks that can get forward. We can’t play with a midfield 3 and without a front 3 with this squad.

Obviously those midfield 3 options the other poster sent will not be played this season when Bruno is also playing.
 
I hope he is “injured” enough to not go to Africa and continues his rehab here during the break.
 
I respect the opinion that Rashford is a terrible footballer. He was, without question, in horrific form during his last 12 months with United. That said, that horrific form was now two seasons ago. More recently, he was brilliant for Barcelona, a club whose standards of excellence are very high, arguably much higher than United...at least in recent years.
He was so brilliant that Barca opted to pay 80 million for Gordon rather than 27 million for Rashford
 
Glad we finally got that one over the line. All still a work in progress, but at least we look like we have some decent CM options for the first time since Scholes retired for the first time.

Best Midfield Combos for this season:

Baleba Santos Mainoo
Baleba Santos Tielemans
Tielemans Santos Mainoo
Tielemans Baleba Mainoo
Bruno says hi
 
Bruno says hi
He's not in my midfield. He can play on the front line, which is what he does anyway, and with three proper CMs, we may have a chance of not being absolutely over-run by good teams or merely competent ones playing well. As has happened regularly for the last however many years.
 
There you go

Best left winger in Europe. But also a back up left winger at Barcelona last season, and behind two other wingers who cost more, in their priorities this summer. So in Barcelona’s eyes, the 4th best left winger they’ve had in 12 months. Not to mention the rest of the obvious names who are light years ahead of him.

Some of the posters on here have to be opposition WUMs. These can’t be serious takes.
 
What about Bruno on left with Sesko as a CF and Mbeumo/Amad on right

with Baleba, Santos, Tielemans in 3 man midfield
That would give us control in midfield but I wouldn’t want Bruno out wide. Our most creative player needs to be central to pick out his killer passes
 
Try Bruno in that false 9 position with 3 of the 4 midfielders we have behind him.

I really think that can work. Especially in the bigger games.
 
He was so brilliant that Barca opted to pay 80 million for Gordon rather than 27 million for Rashford

Fair point, but the larger point still stands that Barcelona have done a much better job of stuffing their cabinets with trophies in recent years than United.

Over the last 5 years, Barcelona have won 3 La Liga titles, whereas United have won 0 PL trophies. I think it's safe to say that Barcelona have performed to a much higher level than United in recent years. But then again, perhaps league trophies aren't relevant.
 
There you go

To be fair to your touche, the PL doesn't have that many truly top class wingers at the moment. On his day, there's Saka, and then there's Doku, but Rashford -- when he's happy (which never be true again) doesn't have a lot of competition in the PL.

One winger I really like over Rashford and if there were a pry to him loose pry I would...is Kroupi of Bournemouth. But there's no chance we're going to pry him loose, not any time soon at least.

Who would you list if you were asked to list 10 better LW than Rashford -- a happy Rashford, not the dickhead who spent his pre-training time in Belfast getting wasted -- in the PL?
 
Didn’t know he had decent long range passing. His physical attributes are very good
 
That would give us control in midfield but I wouldn’t want Bruno out wide. Our most creative player needs to be central to pick out his killer passes
We could play three at the back..