Doesnt seem to have his own thread in transfer forum
Linked to a move to Utd this summer.
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Linked to a move to Utd this summer.
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Carlos Baleba
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Wharton and Baleba it is then. Anderson must be off to city
I’d be ecstatic with that. I said in another thread Wharton, Mainoo, Baleba is an amazing trio with different strengths. Then number 4 hopefully someone from the academy steps up to be 4th choice.
I prefer Adam Wharton to Elliot Anderson. especially with the price it would cost to get from Nottingham, and it seems he is off to Man City anyways.
Carlos Baleba is worth about 45-50m now. Anything more and we're being ripped off.
I just hope it doesn't mean we won't least try for a Mamadou Sangare or Ayyoub Bouaddi.
Carlos Baleba is worth about 45-50m now. Anything more and we're being ripped off.
I just hope it doesn't mean we won't least try for a Mamadou Sangare or Ayyoub Bouaddi.
Wharton is an excellent player, and Baleba could be too if you trust that this season was a fortuitously price-lowering off season rather than an indication he isn't actually as good as the club believe. If you believe in the talent, this summer an ideal time to buy.
But in terms of balanced midfield pairings, Wharton/Mainoo would seem to have obvious issues. Which might be an problem as if you were picking them based on current individual quality, you'd likely pick both ahead of Baleba rather than partnering one with him.
But in terms of balanced midfield pairings, Wharton/Mainoo would seem to have obvious issues. Which might be an problem as if you were picking them based on current individual quality, you'd likely pick both ahead of Baleba rather than partnering one with him.
Get wharton but sign Casa for one more year. Bro's heading ability is top notch.
4 extremely inexperienced midfielders.
One off the back of an absolutely awful season, where it’s a massive risk - as we don’t know whether he’s capable of playing at a high level (Baleba).
Then Wharton who would appear not to be compatible with the only existing midfielder we have at the club.
We clearly see something in Baleba, the interest hasn’t cooled down. Not sure if that’s because there’s something real special we see in the scouting or if they’re just being lazy and using last year’s homework to take the exam this year
I would love to know how much noise is from agents trying to whip up interest in their clients. Just generally.
One day it is Bruno G for sure, then it is Baleba, then Wharton, tomorrow will be a new name again
One day it is Bruno G for sure, then it is Baleba, then Wharton, tomorrow will be a new name again
We valued him at £55-60m in the summer, Brighton wanted £100m +. His valuation has supposedly dipped to £70m, I wouldn't want the club to spend any more than £40-45m on him, even then I'd have major reservations on his mentality and his actual top level.
It is transfer noise that I hope goes away in all honesty as there are many options in the Premier League and continent who we would be better off targeting.
It is transfer noise that I hope goes away in all honesty as there are many options in the Premier League and continent who we would be better off targeting.
I still have faith he’s going to be an amazing player. He’s attributes are unmatched. If we can unearth his talent we probably have the future best midfielder in the league.
However im really not fussed who we get from Anderson, Tonali, Wharton. Aslong as we get one of them alongside him.
However im really not fussed who we get from Anderson, Tonali, Wharton. Aslong as we get one of them alongside him.
We clearly haven’t learned our lesson, huh? Baleba has proven himself to be merely a one-season wonder. This season showed that, yet our board seems to have learned nothing…
That's the thing really, when you judge it on raw attributes he is pretty much the total package.
I can understand that they look at his inconsistencies and still back him to put it all together.
I'd have big concerns but also start to get very excited. He is also is far easier to partner than someone like Wharton. Essentially if he worked out as a signing he instantly answers the biggest stumbling block in building a top Premier League midfield in 2026.
I am a fan of Baleba. His skill-set is probably even more unique than a Wharton or some of the others we have discussed. . He does seem to get gassed by the 60 minute mark so not sure what is going on with that. Maybe its the high intensity playing style
Baleba the new Gaitan.
He's a 22 years old player who was exceptional last season but had struggled to keep up with the tempo while concurrently still being half decent in the defensive part of his game. Should we spend silly money on him? Surely not. However its equally stupid to write him off.
He was one of the most promising midfielders in Europe before Brighton signed him. This 'only one good season' nonsense is extremely short-sighted.
He's proven he's not a wonder kid that is already fully ready sure. He hasn't disproved that he's a talented youngster that might have the ingredients to be world class.
Whilst it would need to be reflected in the cost I'm more than happy if the club think he has potential. Our new team seem to have a decent eye for talent.
Was he exceptional? I’d like to get a view from Brighton fans on that.
The below was the thoughts of @The Boy last summer.
"They're similar in the way they can anticipate play and intercept passes, break up play and tackle, but Baleba is more powerful and can break much more quickly with the ball, whereas Caicedo is a calmer more considered player and better passer. I would say Caicedo (remember he's had a few years longer in the prem) is the better DF and can orchestrate the game better from that position, but Baleba is a better transition player.
Chelsea fans like @WeePat could probably tell you more than me, but under Poch, Caicedo had more of a box to box role with Enzo Fernandez playing deeper, and he didn't play to his potential, whereas he fits much better into Maresca's style where he plays the deeper role and finds it easier to progress as there's generally more space for him to move into, I think at the moment Baleba is the other way around.
It may just be recency bias but for me at the moment Caicedo is the better player, he is that bit older and has more experience, but Baleba has the higher potential and ceiling."
Yes..
Him and Wharton for me. This season has been a bit off putting but clearly there’s a player there, think it’s worth the risk for the right price.
I expect us to spend 200m£ for 3 CMs this summer, kinda like last summer for attackers. And we have so many options. I think I will be happy with whatever combination of Anderson/Guimaeres/Wharton/Baleba/Fernandes/ young CM. I'd prefer the first 2 but be happy with any combo.
He's been dire this season but he's young enough that it might just be part of his learning curve.
We'd be mental to pay a top price for him however it might make sense if we got a decent deal for him, anything over 40m is a major red flag though.
We'd be mental to pay a top price for him however it might make sense if we got a decent deal for him, anything over 40m is a major red flag though.
One bad season doesn't prove one excellent season to be a one-off season. That's not how football or even just numbers work.
40million + Zirkzee. Take it or leave it.
If we've been monitoring him we'd know he isnt worth more than £40 million. We'd also have seen that Ayari is a much better player than him this season albeit a more attacking player
leave it thanks!
What about one slightly used Ugarte + cash?
Every time I saw him he does something silly like shoot from 40 yards, lose the ball or get a yellow for a daft challenge.
Honestly, Zirkzee's quite a baller actually
Can see us signing him for a similar price to Cunha and Mbeumo, around £65m. He's not going to go for £40m like some on here are saying.
Paying cunha/Mbeumo money for him would be mental
Genuinally think that's what it would take if we really want him. I think Brighton would just hold onto him for £40m and count on him improving again. I hope I'm wrong.
They don't really trust him to start regularly as much, or at least finish a match. They've openly said that the United links distracted him too so I doubt there's anything to gain in holding out. Itl probably get more sour if he's obligated to stay another season.
Then I hope we use that to our negotiating advantage and hold strong for a lower fee
Then I saw him play
Now I’m not a Baleba
Not a trace
Off doubt in my mind
Now I’m not a Baleba
Not a trace
Off doubt in my mind
I think that Brighton are in one hell of a sticky situation. They are known for being a stepping stone club but if they refuse to let a player go then prospective talents won't go there. Then there's a player who not showing the goods for them. Should they stick on him knowing that that they might cost him his only opportunity to move to a top club + they risk losing money on him if he fails to regain form? Or should they let him go? What if this is all a show from Baleba to push for a move?
I believe that the two clubs will find a compromise. Yes we'll pay Mbuemo money for him but it would be mostly tied up to performances, clauses and installments.