Is this a different role to what he played for Madrid? Because that would be a surprise to me.He's clearly a high calibre player, and I actually don't think this is a case of Madrid selling a player past their prime/a crock.
I just think we're trying to force him to play a type of football/position he is not built for, and it's manifesting in him looking awkward and at times just a bit shit.
Adapting to the team is a factor, but feels like a stop gap (on a 5 year contract...)
He played as a sole #6 behind Modric/Kroos and now he's playing in a 2 with Eriksen.Is this a different role to what he played for Madrid? Because that would be a surprise to me.
I see. Well I thought yesterday he will play as #6 with Eriksen and Fred as #8s ahead of him, but clearly Fred was the most advanced and playing between front line and midfield.He played as a sole #6 behind Modric/Kroos and now he's playing in a 2 with Eriksen.
When Casemiro gets match fit he'll be fine.
He just didn't change the system. We've been playing 4-2-3-1 and winning. Eriksen is best deeper, and he wanted to give Fred minutes.I see. Well I thought yesterday he will play as #6 with Eriksen and Fred as #8s ahead of him, but clearly Fred was the most advanced and playing between front line and midfield.
I do think ETH overcomplicated things vs Real.
Not just fitter. Settled in the country and league. And had more time to work with ETH, which I think is also super important.fixed
A high calibre player wont suddenly forget their basics just because they play in an awkward role (not even different position) that weren't build for him to a teeHe's clearly a high calibre player, and I actually don't think this is a case of Madrid selling a player past their prime/a crock.
I just think we're trying to force him to play a type of football/position he is not built for, and it's manifesting in him looking awkward and at times just a bit shit.
Adapting to the team is a factor, but feels like a stop gap (on a 5 year contract...)
Agree. He is in his prime years. He needs to build up muscle memories with ETH's system since he has had not pre-season with ETH.Not just fitter. Settled in the country and league. And had more time to work with ETH, which I think is also super important.
He has a very chubby face, which may give people that incorrect impression. He's extremely in shape, physically.there's not an ounce of fat on him ffs.
Obviously, a rubbish post, but that made me laughI was there tonight about 10 rows back in N1411 and Quesadilla made a little run and put a cross in right infront of me and he looked so slow and awkward, there seems to be nothing in him even over 10 yards. His arse might rival Shaw's for biggest in the squad. If Shaw looked that big and he often did he'd be getting stick for it.
Because he asked to leave and they have two DM's already, one of which cost €80m this summer."There's a reason Madrid sold him".
Makes me think of Wawrinka the tennis player, I thought "he could drop a few pounds" until I saw him shirtless. I also remember Ronaldinho at the end of his time in Barcelona who got a lot of sh*t in spain for being not fit and who lifted his shirt on purpose at the end of a game and he was ripped. Hope it's not comparable to Casemiro though because he was more than fit but his legs were gone at that point (I don't think it's the case for Casemiro).He has a very chubby face, which may give people that incorrect impression. He's extremely in shape, physically.
Yeah a very apt comparisonAll our new signings deserve patience, even players as good as Casemiro can take their time to adapt. Thiago took ages to find his feet at Liverpool. This team is going to take time to get used to each other learning a new system.
Dont you know, opinions on players are always after one good or bad game and that carries on till the day they leave this club!Never knew being 30 years old is the new 70. He is new to the team, needs time to gel with his teammates, has only started one game for us. Rest have been matches where we were protecting leads. Give him atleast half a season before writing him off. Seriously, some posters here are unreal
We need more people like you in this thread, to reassure posters this will be a fantastic signing for United. He did still look rusty but on the other hand there were moments I saw the clear quality he has as a DM shielding our back 4.He was MotM in his last game for Madrid this year. He was an important contributor to our success last year. The overwhelming majority of Madridistas were pissed off that we sold him with no replacement, leaving our DM light once again.
THIS!
A DM needs time to understand his teammates’ runs so he can cover for them. He is still adjusting and United only have themselves to blame for buying him so late.
A great DM is one who is never noticed by the audience. Casemiro is a supporting actor, a helper, a platform for artists like Modric. His job has always been to keep things ticking over with short, safe passes in possession and to become the first line of tackling when we are out of possession. He just needs a little time to settle and assess his teammates’ playing style.
His last paragraph is totally wrong though. When he's having a great game, Casemiro is totally noticeable and looks dominant on the pitch.We need more people like you in this thread, to reassure posters this will be a fantastic signing for United. He did still look rusty but on the other hand there were moments I saw the clear quality he has as a DM shielding our back 4.
You can tell us the next passionate part of the dream tooI had a dream last night where I was doing arts and crafts with Casemiro and he was speaking perfect English with me.
That’s the kind of thing that happens to players who aren’t settled and aren’t match fit. It’s scary if we don’t think he’s going to improve, but chances are he will. He’s going to play the same position as he did at Real so, unless he’s declined physically in a dramatic way, I don’t think it’s a permanent nightmare. Worrying is part of the fun, of course.I wouldn’t worry too much about his pace across the ground. I am very worried about how slow he was on the turn. He was getting absolutely rinsed by any Real player who who used even a basic trick or skill to get away from him. Which is kind of a disaster for the position he plays. That back heel nutmeg was an absolute humiliation.
Yeah that was truly rubbish but funny.Obviously, a rubbish post, but that made me laugh![]()
Yeah I agree.I like the look of him. He’s been very sloppy which I didn’t necessarily expect, but is hardly surprising after such a major change. But he’s shown much more vision and desire to pick out passes between the lines than I expected. Assuming the former is just a lack of sharpness, he’ll be a huge asset with the latter, combined with his obvious defensive qualities.
Fabinho even longer seemed like a 6mth period before he became the regular in the position.Thiago took a while to adapt. Last night was a game in europe and he still looked of the pace. Not going to write him of just yet, Varane is the classic example of that. I think, Casemiro comes good, just need to give him a bit of time to adapt.