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It would be utter madness to over him a new contract.

He's 33. His legs have long gone.

He's serving a purpose at the moment, but he cannot be relied upon in CM in the premier league even as a bit part player for us if we want to genuinely progress and improve this squad.

We basically bypass CM at the moment due to being weak in that area. Bruno and CM are a terrible combo, but they're doing what they can in fairness to them.

If we had genuine capable midfielders, it would enable us to play via the midfield offering us more control.

We need to learn when to cut loose for the better, Casemiro has been a good pro here and tried his best but that shouldn't mean he gets an extension. Best for all parties if he moves on

He’s not going to sign an extension on significant reduced terms to be a squad player. To keep him we’d have to extend for an extra year on his current terms which would be ridiculous but can’t be ruled out as there are question marks on the future of all our midfielders. For me it’s just time to move on and get on with finally building a midfield.

In fairness he’s doing as best as he can at this stage of his career, he can’t run with the ball so he has to get rid of it as quickly as possible unless he has no one around him, as you’ve said we are also just cutting out the midfield a lot more now.

Off the ball he is pretty useless in open space but when it’s more compact he isn’t still very effective, it’s a pretty sad state of affairs that he is comfortably our best option in that role.
 
He’s not going to sign an extension on significant reduced terms to be a squad player. To keep him we’d have to extend for an extra year on his current terms which would be ridiculous but can’t be ruled out as there are question marks on the future of all our midfielders. For me it’s just time to move on and get on with finally building a midfield.

In fairness he’s doing as best as he can at this stage of his career, he can’t run with the ball so he has to get rid of it as quickly as possible unless he has no one around him, as you’ve said we are also just cutting out the midfield a lot more now.

Off the ball he is pretty useless in open space but when it’s more compact he isn’t still very effective, it’s a pretty sad state of affairs that he is comfortably our best option in that role.
We aren’t extending this deal. Under the previous management, potentially, but not under Ineos.

The only way he would stay is on a 2 year contract on vastly reduced, but still very decent wages.

Personally, I wouldn’t want that, and think we should move on.
 
Haven't been very complimentary of him in recent times but thought he was great yesterday. Really good at anticipating and making critical interceptions.
Fbref has him in the 47th percentile for interceptions mate... He is really high up numbers wise in anything else, but not interceptions.

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I am suprised (am I really?) by all the glory in here... I mean, we won a game at Anfield, which is obviously great. But we had 36% possessions and Liverpool had double the xG than we did so it isn't as if we contained them really well. Casemiro played 57 minutes, had 28 touches, completed 16 of his 19 passes, 1 of 3 long ones. One of those was into our final third. And in a game where we mostly defended, he completed 2 of 3 tackles. He also didn't attempt one tackle against a dribbling.

The same thing is happening with Maguire - a defender ends up with a decisive goal and suddenly "the performance was pretty good" and "actually he is decent most of the time and offers something" and "why not keep him around longer"...

Disheartening.
 
Fbref has him in the 47th percentile for interceptions mate... He is really high up numbers wise in anything else, but not interceptions.

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I am suprised (am I really?) by all the glory in here... I mean, we won a game at Anfield, which is obviously great. But we had 36% possessions and Liverpool had double the xG than we did so it isn't as if we contained them really well. Casemiro played 57 minutes, had 28 touches, completed 16 of his 19 passes, 1 of 3 long ones. One of those was into our final third. And in a game where we mostly defended, he completed 2 of 3 tackles. He also didn't attempt one tackle against a dribbling.

The same thing is happening with Maguire - a defender ends up with a decisive goal and suddenly "the performance was pretty good" and "actually he is decent most of the time and offers something" and "why not keep him around longer"...

Disheartening.
I agree with you. However the problem is next summer, if Maguire and Casemiro go we would need 2xCB, 1xRWB, 3xCM and 1xST. We can't do all of that in one summer so it kind of makes financial sense to retain Casemiro and Maguire as back ups while we spend the money on new starters.
 
I agree with you. However the problem is next summer, if Maguire and Casemiro go we would need 2xCB, 1xRWB, 3xCM and 1xST. We can't do all of that in one summer so it kind of makes financial sense to retain Casemiro and Maguire as back ups while we spend the money on new starters.
I don't think it does. How useful is a rotation option that requires you to play differently to the way you actually want to play? Amorim looks like he wants to press - that doesn't work as good with Maguire since the team can't push up. It is crazy to attempt it with players that are so immobile.

I see your point though - if we want to do something about all those positions, then finances will get tense. But the only answer to that isn't just "lets extend Maguire and Casemiro" - we simply can't shop in the boutique for all of those players. Same way other teams don't add A-listers in every position. Not as if only the best of the best are better than what we have.
 
We aren’t extending this deal. Under the previous management, potentially, but not under Ineos.

The only way he would stay is on a 2 year contract on vastly reduced, but still very decent wages.

Personally, I wouldn’t want that, and think we should move on.

Everyone thought the same about Maguire and he got the extra year on his full salary and that’s the most likely scenario if Casemiro stays as well.
 
Everyone thought the same about Maguire and he got the extra year on his full salary and that’s the most likely scenario if Casemiro stays as well.
I don’t believe we have an option with Casemiro. Whilst Maguire is on big wages, it’s nothing like Casemiro. Now there is talk of Maguire agreeing a new contract, which would be on reduced wages.
 
As much as I have championed him from the start, I wouldn’t want him renewed unless he took an enormous pay cut and was willing to fill minutes as a rotation option. His time at the very top has come and gone and we need players who are already extremely impressive who then have room for growth. You need his wages redistributed for that to happen.

I’d cull the whole midfield, mind. Kobbie will be off in the summer regardless.
 
As much as I have championed him from the start, I wouldn’t want him renewed unless he took an enormous pay cut and was willing to fill minutes as a rotation option. His time at the very top has come and gone and we need players who are already extremely impressive who then have room for growth. You need his wages redistributed for that to happen.

I’d cull the whole midfield, mind. Kobbie will be off in the summer regardless.
I agree with the first part, not so sure about the last part though. Maybe Amorim(or whoever else is here) next summer will use Mainoo much more, because Bruno is most likely gone then.
 
Next summer the bulk of our budget is going to go into midfield. Its entirely plausible we'll buy 2 or 3 midfielders, depending on the profile of who we go for. So I don't think we need to worry about keeping Casemiro on, even on reduced terms. If we needed to buy elsewhere and were stuck with just one new CM, I could understand keeping him for a bit longer. But I dont think thats the position we're in.
 
7 appearances, 5 yellows and 1 red. :lol:
Yet his form has actually been pretty good.
 
If he wants to continue here on a quarter of his wage and it doesn't effect our ability to bring in two new midfielders, I'd love to keep him for another season.
 
If he wants to continue here on a quarter of his wage and it doesn't effect our ability to bring in two new midfielders, I'd love to keep him for another season.
Absolutely this, he’s a true pro and and great example to the younger players, he’s also still a top(ish) player for 60 minutes a week or so.
 
Next summer the bulk of our budget is going to go into midfield. Its entirely plausible we'll buy 2 or 3 midfielders, depending on the profile of who we go for. So I don't think we need to worry about keeping Casemiro on, even on reduced terms. If we needed to buy elsewhere and were stuck with just one new CM, I could understand keeping him for a bit longer. But I dont think thats the position we're in.

Agreed, there is a clear direction for next summer, we started it by bidding for Baleba, so it shows that is the next target.

With the way Baleba is going, if we are still in for him, we get him 25% cheaper at least which could mean us signing someone else and also gives Amorim one more year to see how Mainoo can fit in.
 
Man Utd 4:2 Brighton New
Our most important player at the moment. We where cruising until he was subbed off and we lost control of the game.
 
I'm saying it every week at the moment but he's the only thing holding the CM together. There's always a gaping hole there when he goes off. Desperately need him to stay fit and desperately need a CM signing in January.
 
What are we going to do without him?

If he gets injured we are literally broken.

Fans seem to blame the subs having poor performances but it's clear that Casemiro is the one leaving the pitch and we lose any sense of calm and cohesion.

I thought Kone was ready for the step up.

We literally have no one except hi. right now.

I think we might have to play Martinez as a CDM once he returns.
 
We went to shit the second he went off. That says it all about his importance.
 
He is holding our MF on his own.
 
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Fantastic performance, only CM that seems to know how to play CM.
 
Good thing we only really have the league to focus on this season, because we need to get the most out of him we can between now and the summer.
 
Good thing we only really have the league to focus on this season, because we need to get the most out of him we can between now and the summer.
Little worried about the Christmas period though, we need a CM in January.
 
He's still class.

Honestly if ETH hadn't made him play in a midfield one and cover 50 square yards by himself, he'd be universally lauded as a great signing
 
I thought his performances late last season were getting a bit overrated but fair fecks to him, he did find a way to perform very well in this system. Hopefully he keeps it up, at this point we don’t have anyone who can replace him and we fall apart without his presence.
 
Need a big signing to replace him, because we go to utter shit when he comes off.
 
Need a big signing to replace him, because we go to utter shit when he comes off.

Agreed and I am not sure any of the players we are linked with currently are good enough. We pretty much need someone to run the midfield on his own for a large part.
 
Superb today and has been very good since the start of the season. You could see the level drop as soon as he went off.
 
He felt baleba came for an audition and decided to show him how it’s done! He is massive for us. We’re unlucky his legs cant last a 90 minute intense game. We need to look for a long term replacement. But currently, with bruno running a lot next to him, he’s fantastic.
 
We lose midfield battle everytime when he gets off. And people wanted him sold. :lol:
 
He's still class.

Honestly if ETH hadn't made him play in a midfield one and cover 50 square yards by himself, he'd be universally lauded as a great signing
I was thinking about this. When he came in it was mostly him next to eriksen and Bruno in front which worked. Then we moved away from that trying two number tens until things changed towards the end in that fa cup run. Still, he's important and pops up with some key goals here and there
 
I think anytime Casemiro comes off it’s a must that we switch to a midfield three because it looks like we have no hold of the midfield without him.

He holds our midfield together and I also think he’s the only one that can give Bruno directions to keep him in check.

If only he was 5 years younger.
 
We seem to fare a lot worse when he comes off the pitch. Another good performance.