Casemiro (out)

The wages Casemiro, Rashford, Antony, Mount and Sancho are on are crazy. Must be 1.3m per week in total wo CL football. And so little in return.
 
The wages Casemiro, Rashford, Antony, Mount and Sancho are on are crazy. Must be 1.3m per week in total wo CL football. And so little in return.

Antony is one of our lower earners, he was only on 105k per week before the 25% reduction kicked in last summer for not qualifying for the Champiins League
 
Glad hes staying. All things considered, I thought he actually had a good season. Seems to suit the system.
 
Antony is one of our lower earners, he was only on 105k per week before the 25% reduction kicked in last summer for not qualifying for the Champiins League
Got this the wrong way around, that was after the reduction. With CL it jumps to around £140-150k.
 
He was on 105k per week in 23/24 which was before the reduction


"Antony's weekly salary much closer to 140-150k a week (when #MUFC qualifies for the Champions League) rather than the 200k that gets circulated on Capology and other websites."
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6090868/2025/01/27/antony-manchester-united-loan-exit-95m/

Sorry, not sure how else to put this but you're not correct on this. You've just gotten yourself muddled here. It's been confirmed by Laurie Whitwell in the Athletic. If you don't know how to get around the paywall, this is what it says exactly:
"That awareness can be seen in Antony’s salary, which is akin to that of a mid-ranking member of the squad rather than a star signing. Antony agreed terms worth £140,000 per week for seasons when United are in the Champions League, plus bonuses based on individual performances, but because they are only competing in the second-tier Europa League this term, thus invoking the standard 25 per cent cut for their players, his salary has been around £105,000 a week."
 


"Antony's weekly salary much closer to 140-150k a week (when #MUFC qualifies for the Champions League) rather than the 200k that gets circulated on Capology and other websites."
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6090868/2025/01/27/antony-manchester-united-loan-exit-95m/

Sorry, not sure how else to put this but you're not correct on this. You've just gotten yourself muddled here. It's been confirmed by Laurie Whitwell in the Athletic. If you don't know how to get around the paywall, this is what it says exactly:
"That awareness can be seen in Antony’s salary, which is akin to that of a mid-ranking member of the squad rather than a star signing. Antony agreed terms worth £140,000 per week for seasons when United are in the Champions League, plus bonuses based on individual performances, but because they are only competing in the second-tier Europa League this term, thus invoking the standard 25 per cent cut for their players, his salary has been around £105,000 a week."


Capology has him listed as earning 105k per week in 23/24 https://www.capology.com/club/manchester-united/salaries/2023-2024/
 
Capology has him listed as earning 105k per week in 23/24 https://www.capology.com/club/manchester-united/salaries/2023-2024/
I really suggest you think about this a little bit. Who do you really have much trust in? A random website which by it's own admission estimates wages based on news reports, or one of the most well sourced journalists when it comes to Man Utd news?

Just to show how ridiculous it is to put your faith in Capology, he is also listed as earning £105k a week in 22/23 as well. https://www.capology.com/club/manchester-united/salaries/2022-2023/

So either Antony is the only senior player other than Shaw in the squad whose wage isn't tied to CL qualification and it's just never been reported, capology have gotten at least 1 of the years wrong, or when they say "base wage" they're not including the CL uplift, even in seasons when it would apply.


I'm also pretty sure Capology have changed their value for Antony since the Athletic article anyway.
 
Whenever this has been gets played in our midfield opposition teams will continue to run through us and he will continue to give the ball away simply because he cannot play at the intensity of the Premier League.
Toby will be a better option!.
 
A dose of ambition is what’s needed around here
Hard to have ambition when we can't sell players to you know fund a striker and CM this summer. The main reason is because players like this were put on mental wages and contracts by Woody and co.
 
The wages Casemiro, Rashford, Antony, Mount and Sancho are on are crazy. Must be 1.3m per week in total wo CL football. And so little in return.
I get the point about the wages but, it is not right to lump in Casemiro, Mount, and Antony in with Rashford and Sancho. Those two are just a disgrace to the club.

While overpaid, at least Case, Mount, and Antony have shown professionalism and can do a job when called upon.
 
I get the point about the wages but, it is not right to lump in Casemiro, Mount, and Antony in with Rashford and Sancho. Those two are just a disgrace to the club.

While overpaid, at least Case, Mount, and Antony have shown professionalism and can do a job when called upon.
That is a fair point :)
 
Can’t see Casemiro leaving, but it’s not the end of the world. He was decent in the second half of last season and he’ll be a useful squad player if nothing else. Sure, £300k a week is not ideal for a useful squad player, but at least he contributes something and there’s only a year to go.

Also, I think he’s a prime example of where we’ll benefit from having just the one game a week. There’s obviously, and rightly, question marks over his and Bruno’s ability to play as a midfield 2, but I’m more confident in them doing it once a week than twice!
 
The fact that he stays as he thinks thats his best chance for the WC shiws that there is still too much wrong at our club. There is no way he should stay and he needs to be pushed out as the other crap players
 
The wages Casemiro, Rashford, Antony, Mount and Sancho are on are crazy. Must be 1.3m per week in total wo CL football. And so little in return.
This is our biggest problem. Dead money going towards players who offer very little. Factor in the transfer fees sunk into all of them except Rashford and it paints a very bleak picture.
 
This is his last year is not it? Plus considering we have not signed anyone or not make any CM signing, he is the only one who can play the 6 role at any decent level. Ugarte, Bruno and Maino would all struggle very badly considering their profiles and physicality. He does not have the legs anymore to cover the ground but put another workhorse alongside him and do not expose him (ETH like gaping holes formation), then he does alright. Plus his height is a big advantage for set pieces at both ends.
 
This is his last year is not it? Plus considering we have not signed anyone or not make any CM signing, he is the only one who can play the 6 role at any decent level. Ugarte, Bruno and Maino would all struggle very badly considering their profiles and physicality. He does not have the legs anymore to cover the ground but put another workhorse alongside him and do not expose him (ETH like gaping holes formation), then he does alright. Plus his height is a big advantage for set pieces at both ends.
Wouldn't be so bad if we had midfield depth to accommodate but that's not the case at the moment
 
I get the point about the wages but, it is not right to lump in Casemiro, Mount, and Antony in with Rashford and Sancho. Those two are just a disgrace to the club.

While overpaid, at least Case, Mount, and Antony have shown professionalism and can do a job when called upon.

You can't be serious. Rashford has contributed more to our club than all of the players you mentioned combined.
 
Might we see him playing as the center of the back 3 nest year? Would help playing out from the back and saves his legs
 
Might we see him playing as the center of the back 3 nest year? Would help playing out from the back and saves his legs
I'd prefer him further up the pitch myself. He's a threat in the air and can pick a pass. When he played at the back he was caught out quite a bit from what I remember.
 
You can't be serious. Rashford has contributed more to our club than all of the players you mentioned combined.
Greenwood contributed a lot to the club, but that doesn't mean that he should have been allowed to stay.

Reports suggest that MR refused to train, got pissed and didn't turn up at Carrington. That's a pretty big deal if true, and it explains why Amorim would not pick him, and you have to back the manager's judgement.

Zero comparison to players like Antony, Casemiro, and Mount, who've picked up wages but still carried themselves with professionalism.
 
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Greenwood contributed a lot to the club, but that doesn't mean that he should have been allowed to stay.

Reports suggest that MR refused to train, got pissed and didn't turn up at Carrington. That's a pretty big deal if true, and it explains why Amorim would not pick him, and you have to back the manager's judgement.

Zero comparison to players like Antony, Casemiro, and Mount, who've picked up wages but still carried themselves with professionalism.

You can’t seriously be comparing Greenwood's situation to Rashford's.

It’s honestly staggering how quickly people forget. Rashford’s positives — the goals, the big moments, the trophies — far outweigh any negatives. But some fans are always quick to erase the good and cling to a narrative.

And to throw Mount and Antony into the mix? Players who’ve contributed next to nothing since arriving? That’s not just laughable — it’s borderline disrespectful.
 
You can’t seriously be comparing Greenwood's situation to Rashford's.

It’s honestly staggering how quickly people forget. Rashford’s positives — the goals, the big moments, the trophies — far outweigh any negatives. But some fans are always quick to erase the good and cling to a narrative.

And to throw Mount and Antony into the mix? Players who’ve contributed next to nothing since arriving? That’s not just laughable — it’s borderline disrespectful.
Actually, this is just life. If you challenge your bosses, if you cross the line, you will suddenly be deemed surplus to requirements.

I am actually a big Rashford fan and I wish there were a way of reintegrating him in the team. But he has clearly burnt his bridges with the club and the damage is irreparable. It's the same as in any job. Some things cannot be undone, especially when you challenge authority, in this case Ruben Amorim.

While what Rashford has done is in no way comparable with the severity of Greenwood's actions, the actions of both have been deemed unacceptable, and the result is that both are outcasts.

We've seen it in the past in the manner in which Roy Keane, Ruud Van Nistelrooy, and Jaap Stam left the club by falling foul of acceptable behaviour. This is just the way things are; and it may be the case that some players half-arse it because they don't see what they are doing as a real job, or the actions that they do as having genuine, real-life consequences.
 
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