How realistic would Casemiro & Caicedo for under £100m be?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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Agree, but we are in a bad spot. Obviously scouting and recruitment has been shocking of late. I hope that ETH help shape the structure around him and we start scouting players that fit into his ethos.
I am a little surprised though that ETH did not come to United with a long list of players that he liked that were in their early 20's. He must have seen United and realized CDM was the number one priority.
I see this as a signing for the here and now. A plug and play solution. If we don't get some quality in quick, then we wont finish top ten.
About as realistic as pigs flying I think. We f'd up by not getting Caicedo for £4.5m when we had the chance. We'll have to go looking for the next Caicedo now.
Agree on this,the owners and board have put us in this position. Not like we can pick and choice from the top shelf for good prices. We will overpay cause we reek desperation.
Its "no value in the market" or end up 10th this year.
Would prefer to have Casemiro and Fred as double pivot with Eriksen as 10. Bruno can't play in Erik's system
This must be the fastest transfer of all time if it really happens before our next game takes place. Ffs this news was only broke out yesterday 
Consider the context as well... We have been dire and Madrid and European champions. By the very nature of the form of the two clubs he will have had the chance to do far less of those destructive actions that McT, and yet he destroys him on every stat you want from a CDM. Hope we get this one done.Maybe a tad?
Holy shit that is some grim reading!
If he doesn't come then we are fully fecked this season IMO. We are in free fall at the moment. Desperately need a top DM in. I don't see what other options are left at this stage who would come. Of course we are scrambling, we are in a desperate state, lost 4-0 to Brentford, a change in manager didn't change the mentality of the squad... It might in time, but it would be a very rough season as Ten Hag works through the players and finds a mix that can work for him and the rest are listed for sale. Someone like Casemiro stops the free fall, gives us midfield stability, and enables ten hag to build a lot better. Still takes time. But at least last weekend shouldn't repeat itself with someone like casemiro in. Though still need a new goalkeeper desperately too.
Caicedo alone would cost close to 80
It means they think we are loaded, and he won't be going cheap!
Well the alternative to is play Eriksen and Fred in front of him. As ETH wants to play an attacking,, possession based system, I went with the former. But I’m good either way. Maybe the two Brazilians will have some familiarity and chemistry.
Our major flaw for many years has been the lack of a midfield! Having a fully functioning midfield should make our defence look good and will also drive the attack a firm base to work from. This signing is essential for us!
Nah, feck FDJ, I knew that was never gonna happen. Considering the number of professional players playing in some of the best leagues in Europe, it doesn't compute to me that a good scouting team cannot find the right players (by right I mean age/wage/transfer fee etc etc..).
Our transfers don't need to be box office players because considering the state of our team currently, we know we are gonna get shafted in terms of wages and/or transfer fees.
Exactly. I actually respect Arnold and Murtough’s decision. We simply can’t make the same mistakes over and over. Casemiro’s case is different though.God knows. I don't actually pay attention to other club's transfers. Does any other club go through all this 'monitoring the situation', 'preparing a bid', 'making an imminent approach' stuff?
Yeah. I'd rather get fleeced for Casemiro than Rabiot.
Our defence will still look poor with DDG permanently attached to his line.
Really excited about this one. Would definitely expect him to improve us a lot.
Hopefully this is an exception to high profile signings not working out at United. Really tired of seeing teams walking past our midfield while the two clowns who usually play there are either in the attacking third or left on their ass somewhere near the half line.
Isn’t Casimero and Fred the goto pairing for the Brazilian national team? If so, shouldn’t that make Fred a resource? Casimero wins the ball, Fred runs and both of them gives the ball to Bruno. All with a Portuguese flavour
I do too my friend..I DO TOO!
Is this hot then?
Need big protest on Monday to delay the game so that Casemiro can be ready to face Liverpool when the game gets rescheduled.
I get the point your making. I guess we waited 2 months for FDJ and put everyone else on hold until we knew what he was going to do. I guess that’s our biggest mistake unless we somehow get him (looks unlikely). It’s left us scrambling while other clubs snapped up players left right and centre.
we need a goalkeeper, I agree.
a right back.
a defensive midfielder.
a midfielder who can link defence and attack (FDJ)
Another winger
A striker.
Need to sell 4/5 of these players (particularly who is leaking to the press).
Casemiro on deadline day doesn’t stop this free fall. Let’s hope they are finally acting now though eh.
god I do sound negative. I’m not. I just love this club and 10 years of this shite does this to you.
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Personally Id be gutted if we splash £60mil on a 30year old defensive mid. But the clubs in such a state and we are desperate. Thats the word for UTD at the moment - fecking desperate for anything, no patience from the fans either, 2 years from now we'll be complaning cos no one will take casimero off our hands as we are paying him £300k per week. If he was any fecking good RM wouldnt be selling him!!!!!!! That is the bottom line isnt it - it he was that good he wouldnt be getting sold. Pants down gentlemen - time to get buggered again. Angel Di Maria, Varane and now Casimero.
I'm shocked that ETH is shocked.
Agree that we need all of the above and may i add new owners?I get the point your making. I guess we waited 2 months for FDJ and put everyone else on hold until we knew what he was going to do. I guess that’s our biggest mistake unless we somehow get him (looks unlikely). It’s left us scrambling while other clubs snapped up players left right and centre.
we need a goalkeeper, I agree.
a right back.
a defensive midfielder.
a midfielder who can link defence and attack (FDJ)
Another winger
A striker.
Need to sell 4/5 of these players (particularly who is leaking to the press).
Casemiro on deadline day doesn’t stop this free fall. Let’s hope they are finally acting now though eh.
god I do sound negative. I’m not. I just love this club and 10 years of this shite does this to you.
It would be good to get an experienced midfielder to replace MacTominay. We have some good young talent coming through (Iqbal, Savage, Mainoo, Gore).
Either gave this sorry lot too much credit or backed himself a tad too much to be able to turn silver out of shite
Haha so what he did not watch a utd game before.... clearly we have lacked a quality DM for 5+ seasons, in reality since Keane left
It helps to play with these Modric and Kroos guys.Maybe a tad?
Holy shit that is some grim reading!
Hey, someone who does this will stop the free fall, I assure youI get the point your making. I guess we waited 2 months for FDJ and put everyone else on hold until we knew what he was going to do. I guess that’s our biggest mistake unless we somehow get him (looks unlikely). It’s left us scrambling while other clubs snapped up players left right and centre.
we need a goalkeeper, I agree.
a right back.
a defensive midfielder.
a midfielder who can link defence and attack (FDJ)
Another winger
A striker.
Need to sell 4/5 of these players (particularly who is leaking to the press).
Casemiro on deadline day doesn’t stop this free fall. Let’s hope they are finally acting now though eh.
god I do sound negative. I’m not. I just love this club and 10 years of this shite does this to you.
Any player who doesnt get stuck in after seeing this can feck off instantly.
For me, I'd prioritize like this (being realistic):
- Buy Casemiro
- Replace De Gea
- Sell Ronaldo/buy Morata
- Loan for Pulisic for a year
- Sell AWB/buy right back
- Sell some deadwood
Well he’s a quick learner then. He probably gave them a fair shot at it and two proper games was enough.
Let it sink in too that Solskjaer thought Fred and McTominay was a good enough midfield
I actually can't believe we might pull this off
chances are -100%
Of course but Mctominator would not have the same stats playing with them, you cant polish a turd
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All a fecking board
Let’s face it he’s better than anything we have regardless of his age. Doesn’t have a terrible injury record either. Great signing in the short team at least, and we absolutely need him.
Casemiro Fred and eriksen midfield. Nice.
Casemiro Fred and eriksen midfield. Nice.
Has anyone seen any betting odds on him joining? SkyBet have had odds on De Jong all summer but I’ve seen nothing on Casemiro. Be interesting to see what the bookmakers think the likelihood of him joining is.
You, me and everyone knew that our club / our recruitment teams were shite in Woodward era, it will not change in a day suddenly and it needs time to change if Murtough's ability capable to do so / our fecking owner want to.
Our team is not that big anymore after SAF era excepted economic side.
Then, top potential players will not join us unless you paid huge currently. Potential is not a must and it need time to grow, they may turn to a flop when they get a big contract ((Let's see Mason..........) or not fulfill their full potential or loss the way. But we need a food ready to eat NOW.
CHOOO feckIINNNG CHOOO
Should have listened to Ralf.
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