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Report reveals details of Bill Murray’s ‘inappropriate’ on-set behavior
New report claims the actor straddled and kissed a younger female colleague on the set of Being Mortal, leading to suspension of production
Bill Murray has reportedly paid $100,000 to settle a complaint by a woman on a film set that he straddled her and kissed her through a mask, as his 1980s co-star Geena Davis also spoke out about his famously “difficult” behavior on set.
In April, Murray was accused of “inappropriate behavior” on the set of Being Mortal, an adaptation of the book by Atul Gawande and the directorial debut of comedian Aziz Ansari, which shut down production in April.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/20...ettlement-inappropriate-behavior-being-mortal
Ihttps://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-...tor-o-yeong-su-charged-with-sexual-misconduct
Squid Game actor O Yeong-su charged with sexual misconduct
South Korea’s prosecutor says 78-year-old is accused of improperly touching a woman’s body in 2017
Are you confessing?
Yep.........To having healthy skepticism of 5 year old allegations of inappropriate touching. Unless there are witnesses...or a text trail...or the woman was a minorAre you confessing?
Not old man Yeong!https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-...tor-o-yeong-su-charged-with-sexual-misconduct
Squid Game actor O Yeong-su charged with sexual misconduct
South Korea’s prosecutor says 78-year-old is accused of improperly touching a woman’s body in 2017
Where did I say the woman was 5? I said that the alleged incident occurred 5 years ago!how do you know the woman was 5? it doesn’t say anywhere in the article. @horsechoker is right, you seem to know an awful lot about it for an innocent man.
To be fair, you also confessed to being healthy...Where did I say the woman was 5? I said that the alleged incident occurred 5 years ago!
whoever creates the diversion, has the perversionWhere did I say the woman was 5? I said that the alleged incident occurred 5 years ago!
Can you get charged on just an allegation?I have stopped taking these allegations seriously. It essentially boils down to he says she says. Where is the justice in that?
Do you have any special insight into this case to tell that there isn't any of that? He's not being cancelled, he's being charged by the authorities. That's not healthy skepticism, that's talking out of your ass.Yep.........To having healthy skepticism of 5 year old allegations of inappropriate touching. Unless there are witnesses...or a text trail...or the woman was a minor
People are asking you why you're not taking the South Korean police seriously, which is an interesting question of course, but I'm wondering why you take minors seriously when you don't take women or the police seriously?Yep.........To having healthy skepticism of 5 year old allegations of inappropriate touching. Unless there are witnesses...or a text trail...or the woman was a minor
Too bloody right. It’s almost not worth getting raped any more.I have stopped taking these allegations seriously. It essentially boils down to he says she says. Where is the justice in that?
Depends on the laws of country, but in some places, yes you can. A complaining witness can and often is considered evidence in itself. Domestic abuse cases for example, there is often no other evidence or witnesses. So the CPS judges the complaining witness and goes ahead with the charge depending on how convincing the witness is.Can you get charged on just an allegation?
Yeah, I know the domestic abuse bit, just wasn't sure outside that.Depends on the laws of country, but in some places, yes you can. A complaining witness can and often is considered evidence in itself. Domestic abuse cases for example, there is often no other evidence or witnesses. So the CPS judges the complaining witness and goes ahead with the charge depending on how convincing the witness is.
Any complaint where the witness can identify the suspect. It’s not limited to domestics, but domestics are where it happens most. but yeah, any crime you are the victim of, your complaint can be enough to get the ball rolling. Getting a conviction on just that though will be a tall order.Yeah, I know the domestic abuse bit, just wasn't sure outside that.
Who says that I do not take women or the police seriously? I do, however, have difficulty taking allegations seriously when there is little or no evidence to back them up other than the word of one person over another. I also have a problem if the allegations are being made only now based on an alleged incident that occurred 5 years ago. Why was a report not made at the time of the alleged incident? How can either party prove their case if there are no witnesses?People are asking you why you're not taking the South Korean police seriously, which is an interesting question of course, but I'm wondering why you take minors seriously when you don't take women or the police seriously?
Again, from where do you have impression that this is the case here? If you've got a source for this claim, then by all means share it with us. If not then you're basically just virtue signalling.Who says that I do not take women or the police seriously? I do, however, have difficulty taking allegations seriously when there is little or no evidence to back them up other than the word of one person over another.
You very clearly learned the wrong lesson from MeToo ("I have stopped taking these allegations seriously").I also have a problem if the allegations are being made only now based on an alleged incident that occurred 5 years ago. Why was a report not made at the time of the alleged incident?
This is a case where the South Korean justice system has decided to charge O Yeong-su with a crime. Who says you don't take the South Korean justice system seriousy? You do, here:Who says that I do not take women or the police seriously? I do, however, have difficulty taking allegations seriously when there is little or no evidence to back them up other than the word of one person over another. I also have a problem if the allegations are being made only now based on an alleged incident that occurred 5 years ago. Why was a report not made at the time of the alleged incident? How can either party prove their case if there are no witnesses?
I have stopped taking these allegations seriously. It essentially boils down to he says she says. Where is the justice in that?
You seem to ignore the other part of my post where I said... "Unless there are witnesses...or a text trail...or the woman was a minor"Again, from where do you have impression that this is the case here? If you've got a source for this claim, then by all means share it with us. If not then you're basically just virtue signalling.
You very clearly learned the wrong lesson from MeToo ("I have stopped taking these allegations seriously").
This is the same guy who:You very clearly learned the wrong lesson from MeToo ("I have stopped taking these allegations seriously").
Thinks executing dogs is deescalating:I was a law enforcement officer for about 3 and a half years of my life and I was trained in the use of force and de-escalation
and makes fun of an unarmed person getting shot 90 times:My advice is to keep your dog leashed and on your own property.
The deputy may have had small children or the dog might have displayed aggressive behaviour. Some dogs are poorly socialised and many dog owners are selfish and negligent when it comes to the safety of others
He didn't learn any lesson from MeToo, positive or negative. There was nothing to be learned, people like this have never had any regard for human life unless those pieces of meat act exactly as ordered to.Play stupid games ..Win stupid prizes!
Wow!This is the same guy who:
Used to be a cop:
Thinks executing dogs is deescalating:
and makes fun of an unarmed person getting shot 90 times:
He didn't learn any lesson from MeToo, positive or negative. There was nothing to be learned, people like this have never had any regard for human life unless those pieces of meat act exactly as ordered to.
Play stupid games ..Win stupid prizes!Wow!
If you have the time maybe you should look at the history of my posts on that thread and you might get a much clearer view of my position.. I was speaking about the racism in policing in America long before the tide turned with George Floyd and also when it was not that popular to do so. I am not and have never been a police officer but I have been an officer of the law
Have you ever been shot at?Play stupid games ..Win stupid prizes!
There is no need for repetition, people can click on the quotes and read your script. You don't deviate.Have you ever been shot at?
Have you ever fired a gun?
This is hilarious...I must admitThis you?
You are showing your true colours. You are deliberately taking my posts out of contextThere is no need for repetition, people can click on the quotes and read your script. You don't deviate.
About the shooting that @Goalfather found so funny, Jayland Walker had 46 entrance wounds when he died. He was unarmed.
whoever creates the diversion, has the perversion
There is a plethora of reasons why women feel unable to report when sexual assault and rape immediately after they have occurred. Victim blaming, shame, fear of not being believed, the fear of losing their integrity, losing their job. etc, fear of wasting their own time, the time of authorities. The list goes on. My wife was the victim of sexual assault, and it took weeks of speaking to her to get her to even consider speaking to the police, and in the end she didn't. The person who did that to her was the partner of a work colleague as well as someone she considered a friend, whereby reporting it would have opened a can of worms, complicating a working relationship and a friendship, and in the end she didn't want to create that difficult situation.I also have a problem if the allegations are being made only now based on an alleged incident that occurred 5 years ago. Why was a report not made at the time of the alleged incident?
I am genuinely sorry that it happened to someone that you loved. My aim was not to trivialise rape and other forms of sexual assault. I, also, have friends who were victims of rape and/or sexual abuse and who managed to navigate to the other end. Two of them were teenagers at the time and both managed, thank God, to make it out on the other side in an environment that neither encourages reporting nor provides therapy to victims of abuse. One only confided in her parent when she realized she was pregnant and was beaten and then taken to have a backstreet abortion which left her ill for weeks and another who at the time I met her had tried to commit suicide twice. In my opinion rape and sexual abuse are capital crimes.There is a plethora of reasons why women feel unable to report when sexual assault and rape immediately after they have occurred. Victim blaming, shame, fear of not being believed, the fear of losing their integrity, losing their job. etc, fear of wasting their own time, the time of authorities. The list goes on. My wife was the victim of sexual assault, and it took weeks of speaking to her to get her to even consider speaking to the police, and in the end she didn't. The person who did that to her was the partner of a work colleague as well as someone she considered a friend, whereby reporting it would have opened a can of worms, complicating a working relationship and a friendship, and in the end she didn't want to create that difficult situation.
Besides, the actual conviction rate of sexual assault and rape is incredibly low. It's understandable why many may think it is a waste of time and resources at the time it happens.
How does someone go about proving they've been sexually assaulted?I am genuinely sorry that it happened to someone that you loved. My aim was not to trivialise rape and other forms of sexual assault. I, also, have friends who were victims of rape and/or sexual abuse and who managed to navigate to the other end. Two of them were teenagers at the time and both managed, thank God, to make it out on the other side in an environment that neither encourages reporting nor provides therapy to victims of abuse. One only confided in her parent when she realized she was pregnant and was beaten and then taken to have a backstreet abortion which left her ill for weeks and another who at the time I met her had tried to commit suicide twice. In my opinion rape and sexual abuse are capital crimes.
It does not negate, however, the legal maxim that he/she who alleges must prove, it is there for a reason, to prevent innocent people from wrongful and malicious prosecution and I believe that this Celebrity/Me Too movement is swinging the pendulum too far the other way. There are many people whose lives have been changed by false accusations and that is also underreported and a fact that the Me Too movement conveniently ignores. I am glad that victims of real sexual assault now have an environment to come forward and tell their stories and have a greater chance of receiving justice. But it is also naive to believe that there are people and the number is not small who will take advantage of this environment to exact revenge for petty slights, grievances or for profit.
How do you prove that you did not sexually assault someone if falsely accused?How does someone go about proving they've been sexually assaulted?
People like you honestly make me sick.
You don't...? The legal burden of proof isn't on the defendant.How do you prove that you did not sexually assault someone if falsely accused?
You can't. So then you have to decide what's more likely to have happened.How do you prove that you did not sexually assault someone if falsely accused?
Too bloody right. It’s almost not worth getting raped any more.