League debut. He had played in the cup and CL. He also played in a backline with Rio, Evra, Neville and a midfield of Hargreaves and Scholes with Park and Fletch as extra workhorses. Mengi would debut against the strongest front 3 in the world playing next to Lindelöf and an unsettled midfield.
Centre Back Options - One injury shows our complete lack of strength in depth
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Eh. He wasn't involved in the first NT break and he played 121 minutes in the 2nd break. In total he's started 7 games this season, finishing 6 of them and not played in 3 or 74% of the total available minutes this season. That's nothing. 74% of the league is 28 matches and without injuries I'd expect him to play all of them.
Are jones and Rojo injured?
No 3 and 5 are injured possibly 70% of the time.
Shambles, how the hell has Bailly managed to put himself out of this one?! Love him as a player, but he needs to go along with Jones & Rojo ASAP. Clean the slate.
TFM - Lindelof - Shaw
For tomorrow it is then.
TFM - Lindelof - Shaw
For tomorrow it is then.
Jones is and was left out of the CL squad. Rojo was just left out.
Jones, Rojo? where are they?
we have a lot of depth its just shite
Gotcha, how has jones managed to get injured? Pulled a groin taking a leak?
I don't see how Jones and Rojo can even considered as depth when they're not even registered for Champions League.
I agree that our actual depth is appalling when you resort to Fosu Mensah and Tuanzebe for it.
Thing is, we can't actually increase our CB depth unless we get rid of Jones and Rojo
It doesn't matter if Rojo and Jones are fit or not, we have left them out of our champions league squad anyway.
Eric Bailly, Tim Fosu-Mensah, Victor Lindelof, Harry Maguire and Axel Tuanzebe appear to be our CB options in europe, which would put Jones and Rojo really as our 6th and 7th placed CBs.
Eric Bailly, Tim Fosu-Mensah, Victor Lindelof, Harry Maguire and Axel Tuanzebe appear to be our CB options in europe, which would put Jones and Rojo really as our 6th and 7th placed CBs.
In a back three, where Tuanzebe is one of the three (pace) I don't mind too much. We need McTominay's energy further up the pitch. And just because Shaw is Shaw, doesn't mean McTominay isn't a high risk at the back
I really don't think it's that much different to many other teams. Tuanzebe is our 4th choice CB and he's equivalent to others.
I’m fatigued with the CB situation
We all are... except the club who is never ever tired about it and insist on keeping the usual suspects with new looooong contracts.Vs PSG, just park the bus and hit counter attacks, no problem with our deadly attacks, McT and Fred need to play in midfield to help defense.
It's the next set of games (PL) that is concerning.
DDG
AWB -- TFM -- Lindelof -- Shaw -- Telles
McTominay -- Fred
^ That's more than enough.
AWB -- TFM -- Lindelof -- Shaw -- Telles
McTominay -- Fred
^ That's more than enough.
It's the next set of games (PL) that is concerning.
Jones had potential when we bought him, but injury prone also.
Haven’t we got more senior centre backs than just about any Premier League club? I mean, I don’t particularly rate them but that’s not the point, the club chose to buy all of them.
It s club s policy apparently to avoid let players leave on a free
Well, there's our problem - many CBs on paper but only two senior functioning players.
As far as Jones and Rojo are concerned, they weren't named in the UEFA squad of 25 (likewise Romero) and that can't be changed until January, so any changes until then have to come from the 'B' list, effectively Mengi at CB.
Tuanzebe seems to be just about available but hasn't played for ages, Bailly is injured again, so that leaves TFM, who to be fair looked very capable in his most recent games.
You almost have to regard Jones and Rojo as if they aren't here. They aren't training with the other players, Rojo apparently doesn't want to play unless he gets regular football (which is a bizarre situation) and Ole seems to be Ole's least favourite player, even if he isn't injured (he's almost certainly not match fit). Ludicrous situation given the money they're burning, but unless the club can find buyers it's stuck with them.
His injury record is worse than Jones's which takes some doing
I've been wondering how Tuanzebe compares to O'Shea, for example.
I'm likewise a bit mystified - the same with Lingard. Both described as "not making it" but no details of why. Unless it's a genuine injury or something that can't reasonably divulged, it's not good that we have these "no shows", particularly when we're short in defence (accepting Lingard might not be needed anyway).
This is the only one that makes sense without playing people's favorites. Shaw is used to lcb and Fosu-Mensah has played rcb more times than the other suggested options, whilst also being quick enough to give Mbappe a bit of a challenge.
Just when we were afraid of having defensive issues, Tuanzebe rises from the ashes and proves he can be a fantastic option for us there !
It was a shit thread last night and it's even more of a shit thread tonight
One for the classics
One for the classics