They are practically completely opposite as midfielders.
Danilo excels at dribbling and shooting, but his passing and defensive work look pretty horrible.
Ederson is solid at passing and defensive work, but doesn't get forward too much.
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They are practically completely opposite as midfielders.
Danilo excels at dribbling and shooting, but his passing and defensive work look pretty horrible.
Ederson is solid at passing and defensive work, but doesn't get forward too much.
Anderson, M Fernandes, Ederson - 10/10
Tchouameni, M Fernandes, Ederson - 9.9/10
Tonali, M Fernandes, Ederson - 8/10
Realistically: if we sign Anderson/Tchouameni level player, the third MF will not be M Fernandes (still expensive and probably wouldn't want to be a rotation behind Kobbie and big signing)
Tchouameni, M Fernandes, Ederson - 9.9/10
Tonali, M Fernandes, Ederson - 8/10
Realistically: if we sign Anderson/Tchouameni level player, the third MF will not be M Fernandes (still expensive and probably wouldn't want to be a rotation behind Kobbie and big signing)
Are 3 midfielders viable?
Isn't this just extending the revolving credit facility? We extended it last year to 300m, I think it it's more to make sure you're not totall reliant on sales to finalise a deal.
It could be. But its £400m now.
Don’t the main rivals to win the EPL (City Arsenal, Liv) all have a wider group of midfield players - I would think the 3 in the Carrick system will need to drawn from at least 5 (assuming Bruno stays and has yet another largely injury free high level season) and 6 if he has a more disjointed campaign ( not unrealistic as he reaches 30 and after so many hard seasons)
Bruno, Anderson’s/Tchou, MF, Ederson, Mainoo, Mount, plus Academy talent feels like a very strong upgrade and I’m assuming Ugarte is moved on , Collyer is sold or loaned out and Kone isn’t ready to be a squad player so it’s Fletchers and maybe Thwaites getting some minutes in cut competitions and from 75 mins in some games to reduce the strain on others
Bruno, Anderson’s/Tchou, MF, Ederson, Mainoo, Mount, plus Academy talent feels like a very strong upgrade and I’m assuming Ugarte is moved on , Collyer is sold or loaned out and Kone isn’t ready to be a squad player so it’s Fletchers and maybe Thwaites getting some minutes in cut competitions and from 75 mins in some games to reduce the strain on others
Yeah, I think it means we expect more activity earlier in the window - which checks out when you see Ederson, Fernandes and probably positioning ourselves to swoop in for Anderson if the opportunity arrives. I hope you're right though, I think this is a prime opportunity to make a big investment that can pay off big time. We ended up remarkably close to City and Arsenal, despite seeming like they were light years away.
Is there any genuine links on Mateus Fernandes? How reliable is Marco Alcaraz?
Jose at Real Madrid wants Rodri and Joao Neves (also looking at Enzo) plus they are calling back Nico Paz from Como.
Looks like they might get rid one of Velverde, Tchouaméni and Carmavinga
Looks like they might get rid one of Velverde, Tchouaméni and Carmavinga
There is no way we will sell Mount. He's on 150k/week which he won't get anywhere ells. Besides that he's important for squat depth and showed a good performance recently against Brighton.
Would take either of first two on permanent deal, however only the last one on loan with option to buy due to recent injury history. Still believe there could be a player though.
He is on 250 k / week unfortunately.
Interesting that Stone said in latest article that speculation for Tonali and Guimaraes has been muted as Utd don't want a saga like scousers got with Isak
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When did i say they were similar players? I said i prefer him, not that i agree with either description anyway
We should hire Asworth short-term to do the deal just for the lols
Would you guys take Tchouameni at £100m on £400k/week for us?
THe fee whem looking at tonali and anderson fees yes even though not a fan of him personally....but if thats the wages, no, it sets a precedent again...id take camavinga or valverde too...but only if wages not crazy.
WIth all the money Barca are spending, i wonder if we should be enquiring after some of there youngsters probably not on crazy wages as surely they have to sell...Balde for example would be oerfect for lb
Who knows but feels like INEOS are not willing to go back to the wage structure they have spend time unwinding - maybe an out of contract player gets more p/w but £75-100m fee , agents fees olus over 300k p/w feels unlikely
What's he on at Madrid? Feels like a crazy salary to be honest. I believe it's more than Bruno is getting.
€100m and £250k/week
If we can get Ederson and MF sewn up soon, pre-WC, I'd be happy to go with a home qualified 3rd option. Either Wharton or Scott would do fine, forget Anderson and Tchouameni, neither of those is going to happen.
Correct, then it would be Tchouameni, Ederson, 20m youngster. We will not sign Tchouameni and Fernandes.
No one should be getting paid more than Bruno. He’s our captain and best player, by a distance. His salary is the ceiling.
£75m and something close to what Bruno’s on? Yes, I’d do that.
Completely agree.
Usually we are very poor sellers and I have argued a lot with other posters over the years about being over optimistic with our sales. However, Ugarte is a Mendes client, so if he really wants to move, I expect his very powerful agent to find him something. We'll have to settle for less than £20m though
Agree, it would be great to grab a homegrown option while there are so many quality ones around.
I still think it's possible to get both, however admit we would have to sell both Ugarte and Zirkzee
Would they sell for £75m though
So would you actually pay a fee for Camavinga on a permanent deal, personally feel a loan with option to buy would be a sensible approach for him
Depends on the fee really...id put him in the top 5cm id prefer us to sign in terms of suitability and availability...but yes the number of games hes missed from seemingly niggling injuries from a big one is a concern, so get the loan option...my thoughts were if hes cm 2 or 3 for 50m or under, then missing 10/15 games not so much of a concern...but with us signing Ederson seeming certain...maybe not such a good deal as hed be the elite dm signing then, he is elite for me but obviously we want the elite player available or it cam turn into a martinez situation
So we're going to completely ignore what see first hand in the here and now in our league for how he played SIX years ago in Serie B? He has shown to be very inconsistent on the ball in the pl and never controls or dictates play. But because of how he looked in the Italian version of the championship he can suddenly do that at the very top level? Why don't we sogn players based on what they're actually showing
Adding Mateus Fernandes and Tchouameni to Ederson would be a top transfer window. Especially if we also add a senior CF and new LB too.
He has been good in the premiership too thats why top clubs are looking at him stop talking absolute drivel
Whether he’s been good or not in the PL, @ron86 is right that a load on here are expecting a Tonali that doesn’t exist, or hasn’t existed for a long, long time.
I live in Newcastle, I'm surrounded by die hard toon fans, season ticket holders, I get to the odd game myself and he does not dictate tempo, thats not how he plays no matter how much serie b football you want to watch. Hes strong, athletic, has energy for days and covers a lot of ground but his passing is very erratic. The question wasn't about whether hes been good in the pl or not, the original comment was saying he was the one to control the tempo with his passing. You can believe hes this pirlo style player all you want, doesnt make it true
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I still think we go for Baleba. He really wants the move and if we can get him for around £60m, the talent is there to be unlocked.
I think we will wait to see if Tchouameni is possible, if not will probably back to Baleba.
Yeah we don't pay those kind of fees and certainly not those kind of wages anymore either
I see!
I know our signings - especially in central midfield - need to be instant difference makers because we're basically only going in with Mainoo right now, but this chap seems too talented to pass up on. I don't think he'd impact our budget that much as well.
Can't say I know much about him myself. Do you rate him?
I'll preface this by saying I know he wouldn't be playing regardless now that @Invictus has caught me up to speed, but I didn't think he'd be an automatic starter beforehand either.
I do think it won't be long until he does get to that level, though. We can see that technically speaking he's on another level to most of the players he’s facing, but on top of that he seems fine with the physicality, too. Of course the physicality over here is even more tough, but I just think this kid has "it".
Yeah that's what I'm hoping is the plan, however if a Tonali or Wharton was still available then would you pivot to either of them instead given the opportunity?