Centre Midfielder Transfer Links

Tonali
Fernandez
Scott

Give me these 3 and we are winning a title next year.

But, it is a shame that we are not interested anymore in Bruno G. I get that price vs age is an issue but Bruno G is better than any our target. He is pure class.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
Tonali
Fernandez
Scott

Give me these 3 and we are winning a title next year.

But, it is a shame that we are not interested anymore in Bruno G. I get that price vs age is an issue but Bruno G is better than any our target. He is pure class.
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Yeah surely Guimaraes has to be in top category with Anderson and Tchouameni, unfortunately none will happen due to huge price, massive wages and too old for resale
 
Assuming Mainoo is starting, Ederson is cover with significant minutes and potentially starting games (not week in week out) aka the role Ugarte was meant to have, there seems to be space for one true starter. I find the links for West Ham's Fernandes to be off - is he really ready to be that starter ? Haven't watched him play.

Feels like Eliot is the target and Fernandes only happens if he doesn't join. That means Mainoo, Eliott(or Fernandes), Ederson, + youngling being promoted are the 4 players for 2 roles. Mount cover if it turns to shit.

I suspect we land 2 players for cm and then move to LB
 
Theo88 said:
Assuming Mainoo is starting, Ederson is cover with significant minutes and potentially starting games (not week in week out) aka the role Ugarte was meant to have, there seems to be space for one true starter. I find the links for West Ham's Fernandes to be off - is he really ready to be that starter ? Haven't watched him play.

Feels like Eliot is the target and Fernandes only happens if he doesn't join. That means Mainoo, Eliott(or Fernandes), Ederson, + youngling being promoted are the 4 players for 2 roles. Mount cover if it turns to shit.

I suspect we land 2 players for cm and then move to LB
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Ederson can play Casemiro’s role, he’s not intended as cover for Mainoo. Mainoo starts most games because he has a unique profile.

If we get MF, we are set. We can add an academy player or a young prospect.

Of course, if the Man City verdict hits, we could have a go at Elliot Anderson. Although I don’t really want players who’d prefer Man City over us.
 
Theo88 said:
Assuming Mainoo is starting, Ederson is cover with significant minutes and potentially starting games (not week in week out) aka the role Ugarte was meant to have, there seems to be space for one true starter. I find the links for West Ham's Fernandes to be off - is he really ready to be that starter ? Haven't watched him play.

Feels like Eliot is the target and Fernandes only happens if he doesn't join. That means Mainoo, Eliott(or Fernandes), Ederson, + youngling being promoted are the 4 players for 2 roles. Mount cover if it turns to shit.

I suspect we land 2 players for cm and then move to LB
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Casemiro has gone and Ugarte will almost certainly follow seeing as Carrick has played Mount who’s a 10 and the Fletcher’s who are kids ahead of Ugarte which leaves us two genuine midfielders in Mainoo and Ederson so we’ll sign three midfielders with Ederson and Mateus Fernandes being two of them.
 
Interesting that Stone has said that obviously Ederson is more or less a done deal, he'd be surprised if we didn't sign Mateus Fernandes, and if we sell Ugarte for a solid amount, that money would be put towards Anderson or Baleba.
 
Anderson and Touchemeni are not viable for several reasons and the only more likely option is Tonali and Baleba who I dont think Newcastle/Brighton will let go for less than 80/90 plus add ons. I'm not sure they are worth that.
Therefore we might have to have a budget midfield. Ederson - 35, Fernandez - 65 and then add Goretska for free. 100 mill. Leave us cash for the defense and one more attacker.
Maybe we havent raised the floor with one world class midfielder but we have in terms of raising the squad level. We can look to get a world class midfielder in the coming seasons.
 
CatenaccioChain said:
Anderson and Touchemeni are not viable for several reasons and the only more likely option is Tonali and Baleba who I dont think Newcastle/Brighton will let go for less than 80/90 plus add ons. I'm not sure they are worth that.
Therefore we might have to have a budget midfield. Ederson - 35, Fernandez - 65 and then add Goretska for free. 100 mill. Leave us cash for the defense and one more attacker.
Maybe we havent raised the floor with one world class midfielder but we have in terms of raising the squad level. We can look to get a world class midfielder in the coming seasons.
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So not worth trying to get Scott or Wharton then?
 
Vidooq said:
He is City bound after all. As expected
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Nothing in this tweet says he is City bound, nothing agreed.

Not saying he will join us, but this says nothing of the sort. There were reports that City could pull out of the deal if it got too expensive, & they have been known in the past to as well.
 
UnitedSofa said:
Nothing in this tweet says he is City bound, nothing agreed.

Not saying he will join us, but this says nothing of the sort. There were reports that City could pull out of the deal if it got too expensive, & they have been known in the past to as well.
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Surely they have talked to him first, before submitting the bid, and he has said yes.
 
Vidooq said:
Surely they have talked to him first, before submitting the bid, and he has said yes.
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We know that he has. I mean why wouldn't he? But I doubt City will go above £100m and if Forest hold out for that, he will probably stay.

This will drag quite a bit and who knows what will happen. We could still make a play, if the price comes down, or if City pivot to other targets.
 
I'm not convinced we need 3 mids or will go for 3. With Mainoo's reintroduction to the team and better form since then I'd be surprised if INEOS place an extra midfielder over other positions.
That might mean that Anderson could be more viable but of course Fernandes would have to be sacrificed then.
Obviously Fernandes looks much more likely but Interesting to see how it evolves either way.
 
Frank Grimes said:
I'm not convinced we need 3 mids or will go for 3. With Mainoo's reintroduction to the team and better form since then I'd be surprised if INEOS place an extra midfielder over other positions.
That might mean that Anderson could be more viable but of course Fernandes would have to be sacrificed then.
Obviously Fernandes looks much more likely but Interesting to see how it evolves either way.
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Wouldn’t underestimate Fernandes to be fair. Think he has every chance at succeeding as Anderson - the only concern being making the big move too soon
 
sp_cgb said:
Those three are the most likely right now. Would lack that specialist number 6, but in every other aspect that set it's seriously exciting.
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Seen a few toys out of pram on a Utd fan channel tonight that we didn't match City's bid for him
 
We seriously should've explored Tonali, Wharton and Goretska instead of ederson, Mateus and ???. We shouldn't be building a midfield around mainoo, we should be looking to upgrade mainoo with a new pair of midfielders.
 
Red_Orchestra said:
We seriously should've explored Tonali, Wharton and Goretska instead of ederson, Mateus and ???. We shouldn't be building a midfield around mainoo, we should be looking for a new starting midfield pairing.
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Maybe we aren't interested in Goretzka, yes would offer us depth but perhaps the wage is an issue. Why you writing off Kobbie as well and oh yeah Tonali's passing is dodgy just ask Newcastle fans. I really hope Ederson sticks to everyone of his critics in our fanbase too. Finally Wharton is considered too lightweight with Mainoo, oh yeah I forgot you feel the same as Amorim about him.
 
UnitedSofa said:
Ederson, Fernandes & Scott anyone?
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This is a very good set of midfielders and would complement Mainoo very well. They are all different type of midfielders which would suit the different games United will have next season, against possession team, low block teams etc. And they are all quite young and in time, could grow and improve together. And they will not demand super huge salary like Tonali or Anderson. Huge salaries players are a risk if they flop as it will be hard to sell them later.
 
with Madrid looking to fight City for Haaland and Rodri.....the issues wiht Tchouameni and Camavinga, now might be the right time for a cheeky bid to get Valverde
 
bosskeano said:
with Madrid looking to fight City for Haaland and Rodri.....the issues wiht Tchouameni and Camavinga, now might be the right time for a cheeky bid to get Valverde
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Yeah no chance they are selling their captain, also the Haaland stuff is way out of Real's capability
 
bosskeano said:
with Madrid looking to fight City for Haaland and Rodri.....the issues wiht Tchouameni and Camavinga, now might be the right time for a cheeky bid to get Valverde
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I've heard rumours that Mourinho does not want Camavinga. I'd throw in a cheeky bid for sure.
 
UnitedSofa said:
Ederson, Fernandes & Scott anyone?
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i am in , its really intriguing with the 4 (adding Mainoo) offering different possibilities to change and yet have quality in the middle of the parc. Its young its technical , positive football IQ.
 
kode said:
i am in , its really intriguing with the 4 (adding Mainoo) offering different possibilities to change and yet have quality in the middle of the parc. Its young its technical , positive football IQ.
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Completely agree. A lot of people are fixated on having strong defense minded combatants in DM, but some of the most successful midfields ever were comprised by fluid and technical midfielders that knew how to keep the ball rather than chase it around.
 
croadyman said:
Yeah no chance they are selling their captain, also the Haaland stuff is way out of Real's capability
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yeah i know they won't but i'd throw one in there just to get a response how vital he is to mourinho
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Think his injury history will put off INEOS, only way that would change if it was loan with option to buy
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would 't want camavinga at United....too lightweight and soft
 
Red_Orchestra said:
We seriously should've explored Tonali, Wharton and Goretska instead of ederson, Mateus and ???. We shouldn't be building a midfield around mainoo, we should be looking to upgrade mainoo with a new pair of midfielders.
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Goretzka is too old, Wharton is no better than Mainoo, and I'd take Mainoo over Tonali as well/

Who are these "upgrades' you're talking about?

Eplel said:
I've heard rumours that Mourinho does not want Camavinga. I'd throw in a cheeky bid for sure.
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Camavinga should only be considered on a loan with option to buy deal.
 
UnitedSofa said:
Ederson, Fernandes & Scott anyone?
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Yep. That would be ideal for me.
All three seem to be adaptable, especially Fernandes and Scott.
Ederson would bring European experience, which the others don't have, and they are all interchangeable, so could fit any of the four (including Mainoo) together in a midfield two.
 
We have in midfield
Mainoo playmaker
Fernandes number 10
Ederson box to box
Thwaites deep lying playmaker
Mount can play 8 or 10

We also have the fletchers.

If we add Mateus Fernandes we have an all rounder box to box

What we lack is a real physical proper 6 with strength, legs, covers ground, does dirty work etc...has to be someone like baleba, mamadou sangare, onana at villa, agoume, tchouameni as we just dont have that kind of option
 
jesperjaap said:
We have in midfield
Mainoo playmaker
Fernandes number 10
Ederson box to box
Thwaites deep lying playmaker
Mount can play 8 or 10

We also have the fletchers.

If we add Mateus Fernandes we have an all rounder box to box

What we lack is a real physical proper 6 with strength, legs, covers ground, does dirty work etc...has to be someone like baleba, mamadou sangare, onana at villa, agoume, tchouameni as we just dont have that kind of option
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Well Sangare and Agoume are the most gettable, however get the impression we aren't looking at them. Maybe Carrick is looking to build a midfield who are about controlling the game without a 6.
 
croadyman said:
Well Sangare and Agoume are the most gettable, however get the impression we aren't looking at them. Maybe Carrick is looking to build a midfield who are about controlling the game without a 6.
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Yes I think you may be right, personally although we look woefully short in cm and obviously a few of the younger names arent ready probably for anything more than cameos at the moment, signing Fernandes alongside Ederson we would have lots of ball playing options and press resistant players too, but no physical presence still, do need one like that, why I think Sangare or Baleba if we sign Fernandes are THE best cm options personally as a third (price dependant on Baleba)
 
jesperjaap said:
We have in midfield
Mainoo playmaker
Fernandes number 10
Ederson box to box
Thwaites deep lying playmaker
Mount can play 8 or 10

We also have the fletchers.

If we add Mateus Fernandes we have an all rounder box to box

What we lack is a real physical proper 6 with strength, legs, covers ground, does dirty work etc...has to be someone like baleba, mamadou sangare, onana at villa, agoume, tchouameni as we just dont have that kind of option
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Isn't that what Ugarte is? As has been proven - particularly when Ugarte has played alongside Mainoo - these components really don't matter as much as being able to progress the ball as a passer. United are gonna have the lion's share of possession in most games and so most of the work being done by the midfield isn't this type of work, it's moving the ball and trying to break the lines. If said DM is limited on the ball like Ugarte is it will really be highlighted especially given Mainoo isn't exactly an elite at progressing the ball through his passing.

Tchouameni is one of the few who is a defensive beast in midfield but can actually move the ball well hence why it's no surprise he's at Real and they want to keep him. With the likes of Onana, Agoume I think you are going to end-up in the same situation as Ugarte is. Baleba and Sangare have more potential in terms of their ability on the ball and will be costlier for this reason (especially the former I think) but again both need to develop still.
 
DannyCAFC said:
Isn't that what Ugarte is? As has been proven - particularly when Ugarte has played alongside Mainoo - these components really don't matter as much as being able to progress the ball as a passer. United are gonna have the lion's share of possession in most games and so most of the work being done by the midfield isn't this type of work, it's moving the ball and trying to break the lines. If said DM is limited on the ball like Ugarte is it will really be highlighted especially given Mainoo isn't exactly an elite at progressing the ball through his passing.

Tchouameni is one of the few who is a defensive beast in midfield but can actually move the ball well hence why it's no surprise he's at Real and they want to keep him. With the likes of Onana, Agoume I think you are going to end-up in the same situation as Ugarte is. Baleba and Sangare have more potential in terms of their ability on the ball and will be costlier for this reason (especially the former I think) but again both need to develop still.
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Personally I would like Wharton, he might not be as mobile as some of the others but he is one of the few players who can pick a pass and control the tempo
 
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