Centre Midfielder Transfer Links

We should be exploring the loan market, low release clauses and players who want to bail out of Saudi if we can get them for cut price.

Ramos for CF
Ndidi for CDM
Etc
 
Butty19 said:
What about Neves? Still plays for Portugal so must be doing ok.
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Exactly, signings like that from Saudi could be shrewd at the right price. Although if they are on big wages it may make it difficult
 
Is he having the speed which was pointed out by Amorim? And what happened to the Javi Guerra links. Hope both are not fake.
 
Irwin99 said:
Guess it’s not the priority despite Amorim’s comments after the Leeds game.

For the two positions we have Bruno, Casemiro, Ugarte, and Mainoo with potentially Collyer, Kone and maybe even Mount as options.
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Exactly this, surely someone (or two) will have to leave before we sign anyone. Only heard of Collyer going on loan so far.
 


Isn't it kinda weird that no PL side is interested in him at that price? He's supposed to be very highly rated.
 
Am i the only one who thinks Midfielder should be priority even ahead of a striker?

We sure are relying lot on Casemiro keeping his legs and Bruno adapting to Cm.
 
sullydnl said:


Isn't it kinda weird that no PL side is interested in him at that price? He's supposed to be very highly rated.
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Can't we hijack this too? He would never chose Ipswich over us would he? Send Collyer on loan to Middlesbrough or Ipswich.
 
FromTheBench said:
Am i the only one who thinks Midfielder should be priority even ahead of a striker?

We sure are relying lot on Casemiro keeping his legs and Bruno adapting to Cm.
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Should be joint highest priority in my opinion
 
FromTheBench said:
Am i the only one who thinks Midfielder should be priority even ahead of a striker?

We sure are relying lot on Casemiro keeping his legs and Bruno adapting to Cm.
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No, it was suicidal starting last season with Casimero around the starting eleven yet here we are a year later in the same position. Unless Ugarte and Mainoo both start to excel we are going to struggle in the middle of the park.
 
Butty19 said:
No, it was suicidal starting last season with Casimero around the starting eleven yet here we are a year later in the same position. Unless Ugarte and Mainoo both start to excel we are going to struggle in the middle of the park.
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I think Utd will accept that this season and target improving that area next summer when Casemiro contract expires.

We'd all like a new midfielder or two. But they are prioritising a striker.
 
FromTheBench said:
Am i the only one who thinks Midfielder should be priority even ahead of a striker?

We sure are relying lot on Casemiro keeping his legs and Bruno adapting to Cm.
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We have Bruno, Ugarte, Mainoo and Casemiro for the 2 midfield positions, it's not ideal but I think without European football that is enough to get us through the coming season. A new striker is much more of a priority for me since we don't have a single striker that is good enough right now. A new striker this summer and then next summer when Casemiro leaves we go big for someone like Baleba or Wharton or even both depending on how Mainoo and Ugarte does this season.
 
We should be making a 70-80 million bid for BALEBA. He would make significantly more impact than getting SESKO. We potentially already have 40-50 goals between Cunha, Mbemo and Bruno and the rest of the team can chip in with 30-35. What we need is a midfielder who not only replaces Casemiro who leaves next summer but effectively becomes an upgrade RIGHT NOW. We're in danger of being a top heavy team with lots of creative attackers but no steel and driving force in the midfield.
 
PowderKeg said:
We should be making a 70-80 million bid for BALEBA. He would make significantly more impact than getting SESKO. We potentially already have 40-50 goals between Cunha, Mbemo and Bruno and the rest of the team can chip in with 30-35. What we need is a midfielder who not only replaces Casemiro who leaves next summer but effectively becomes an upgrade RIGHT NOW. We're in danger of being a top heavy team with lots of creative attackers but no steel and driving force in the midfield.
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Would take more than £80m
 
Crimson King said:
Would take more than £80m
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I know...but if we make the offer that hopefully unsettles him because even 80 million represents a huge profit for Brighton. We need to get the ball rolling on Baleba because another monster season from him and he's definitely going for over 100 and to the top 5-10 teams in Europe. The man is THAT good. We're trying to get some geezer from Sporting, a Brazilian malcontent from Italy or some kid from Valencia when we should be taking the same approach as Mbeumo and Cunha. Young, proven premiership talent at midlevel club who has all the qualities to become world class in a few seasons. Tell me who other than BALEBA and maybe Wharton fits that description right now?
 
PowderKeg said:
We should be making a 70-80 million bid for BALEBA. He would make significantly more impact than getting SESKO. We potentially already have 40-50 goals between Cunha, Mbemo and Bruno and the rest of the team can chip in with 30-35. What we need is a midfielder who not only replaces Casemiro who leaves next summer but effectively becomes an upgrade RIGHT NOW. We're in danger of being a top heavy team with lots of creative attackers but no steel and driving force in the midfield.
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Preach on brother!
 
Given the state of our midfield it's surprising that strengthening it is last on our priority list. Can't bear another season of opposition teams running through it like hot knife on butter.
 
Insanity said:
Given the state of our midfield it's surprising that strengthening it is last on our priority list. Can't bear another season of opposition teams running through it like hot knife on butter.
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Bournemouth did this last night. Several runs through unchallenged.
 
pacifictheme said:
Bournemouth did this last night. Several runs through unchallenged.
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Casemiro not wanting to move and us not letting Bruno go has f-ed us. Our best hope is that Mainoo has somehow come leaps and bounds during the summer and Ugarte has been fed enough spinach so that he doesn't get gassed after 60 minutes (I doubt his on the ball skills will improve)
 
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the hea said:
We have Bruno, Ugarte, Mainoo and Casemiro for the 2 midfield positions, it's not ideal but I think without European football that is enough to get us through the coming season. A new striker is much more of a priority for me since we don't have a single striker that is good enough right now. A new striker this summer and then next summer when Casemiro leaves we go big for someone like Baleba or Wharton or even both depending on how Mainoo and Ugarte does this season.
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If Ugarte suffers an injury he’s the only one who can play the role, we’d be relying on Casemiro who just doesn’t have the legs and alongside Bruno it’d leave us so wide open. INEOS want to find the next Baleba or whoever, not pay 100 million. There are plenty of prospects who could be gotten for decent fees.
 
sullydnl said:


Isn't it kinda weird that no PL side is interested in him at that price? He's supposed to be very highly rated.
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Not that weird. He's highly rated by some people on the internet and any link to us was entirely manufactured by them. He's obviously a good player in the championship and a premier league side might want to give him a try, but going to a team who will want to try to push for promotion might be the other way he gets a go in the premier league. Middlesbrough were mid table so its obviosuly a better move to go to the team that came 2nd before being in the premier league last year
 
Insanity said:
Casemiro not wanting to move and us not letting Bruno go has f-ed us. Our best hope is that Mainoo has somehow developed leaps and bounds during the summer and Ugarte has been fed enough spinach so that he doesn't get gassed after 60 minutes (I doubt his on the ball skills will improve)
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If this was the case Casemiro would be training alone. Amorim obviously rates him and rightly so based on last season, although he's been being the curve in preseason so far
 
Ekeke said:
If this was the case Casemiro would be training alone. Amorim obviously rates him and rightly so based on last season, although he's been being the curve in preseason so far
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Haven't we wanted to move him on for a couple of windows with him denying the moves? Sir Jimbo doesn't miss a chance to point out that he was the wrong signing for the club and Amo kept him in the doghouse for a while before the January window shut.

I think there is a realization that he is only going to move when his contract is up and we might as well use him.
 
Insanity said:
Haven't we wanted to move him on for a couple of windows with him denying the moves? Sir Jimbo doesn't miss a chance to point out that he was the wrong signing for the club and Amo kept him in the doghouse for a while before the January window shut.

I think there is a realization that he is only going to move when his contract is up and we might as well use him.
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Again, if we want him out and he's not budging he'd be training alone and not playing for us. Our management has no issue with doing it with other players. He's clearly part of the plans of the current manager. Now if a huge offer comes in for him and its good for all parties I'm sure we'd discuss it. That isnt the case, but that would probably go for about 60% of our team other than the new players we just signed.
 
Ekeke said:
Again, if we want him out and he's not budging he'd be training alone and not playing for us. Our management has no issue with doing it with other players. He's clearly part of the plans of the current manager. Now if a huge offer comes in for him and its good for all parties I'm sure we'd discuss it. That isnt the case, but that would probably go for about 60% of our team other than the new players we just signed.
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Could be that or could be the lack of options. Mainoo hasn't grown in the role and had a poor last season. Ugarte is simply too terrible on the ball.
 
Insanity said:
Could be that or could be the lack of options. Mainoo hasn't grown in the role and had a poor last season. Ugarte is simply too terrible on the ball.
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Mainoo is a young player and you'd expect improvement especially after having a typical 2nd season with a dip. For a young player he was a pretty good ball winner last season but not a lot else. Ugarte is a very good ball winner but Casemiro outdid him (and 90% of the other DMs in europe) last season and Casemiro has more vision for a pass. Ugarte is in his 2nd season in the premier league so hopefully he's a bit stronger physically and a bit more dependable with his passing. We had a lack of options in attack last season and yet we binned off Rashford and Garnacho. This isnt a manager who is going to regularly pick a player he has decided to get rid of. We'd be barely seeing Casemiro if thats the case to get the message across to him that he needs a new club, like the others. Amorim does make it very simple even if you can question whether its the best thing to do.
 
Red_toad said:
If Ugarte suffers an injury he’s the only one who can play the role, we’d be relying on Casemiro who just doesn’t have the legs and alongside Bruno it’d leave us so wide open. INEOS want to find the next Baleba or whoever, not pay 100 million. There are plenty of prospects who could be gotten for decent fees.
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Casemiro was pretty good towards the end of last season and he looks in great shape now in preseason. There is also the World Cup coming up next summer and I think that will be a big motivator for him. Mainoo has been very good in the preseason games so far and hopefully he will be able to kick on and take some big steps in his development this season. In an ideal world I would of course like us to sign another midfielder but if I have to choose between signing a midfielder or a striker I would choose striker all day long. Höjlund and Zirkzee are both worse strikers than any of the above mentioned players are in midfield.
 
Ekeke said:
Again, if we want him out and he's not budging he'd be training alone and not playing for us. Our management has no issue with doing it with other players. He's clearly part of the plans of the current manager. Now if a huge offer comes in for him and its good for all parties I'm sure we'd discuss it. That isnt the case, but that would probably go for about 60% of our team other than the new players we just signed.
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Not necessarily. We might prefer him to leave but if he's behaving and training well why would we ostracise what is a big name in football? That's not how you treat players who are doing their job as well as they can.

One year left on his deal. Do you think we're getting a new deal ready for him?
 
Marwood said:
Not necessarily. We might prefer him to leave but if he's behaving and training well why would we ostracise what is a big name in football? That's not how you treat players who are doing their job as well as they can.

One year left on his deal. Do you think we're getting a new deal ready for him?
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Because we did it with Rashford and Garnacho. That was the whole point of doing it with them, showing that if you arent in the coaches plans you will be stuck out on your own and need to find a new club. If you only do it with some players and not others you send mixed signals. He's clearly not doing that. He's clearly sending a very loud signal - you just dont want to hear it.

No at the end of his deal he'll probably be off, but we have kept a hold of older players for an extra year before. By that time he will be 34 and I'm sure we'll spend plenty to replace him and we dont know if he'll be able to repeat his good last season. However this summer we've had different priorities and spent plenty on #10s and still have a problem up front, so it looks like unless we find a a cost effective smaller transfer we'll be leaving the CM roles till next year
 
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