Centre Midfielder Transfer Links

We should be looking at Sander Berge as a cheaper option. Very solid player who would surely cost less than 50m

Supplement with Anderson if possible. I’m not totally convinced by Baleba
I always thought he would be a great squad option (Berge), decent strength and mobility and can often win those midfield battles that seem to slip away from slower, lightweight guys like United currently have. He would be difficult to prise from Fulham but a good addition to the squad.

As for Baleba, I agree. Last year, he looked really good...but this season, before he was dropped, he seems to be lacking in focus and is caught out of position, misses tackles he would have made last year or fails to make a pass that he would have made in his sleep a year ago. I have a feeling that his head was well and truly turned with the speculation and at times, it even looks like he no longer has his heart in it for Brighton.

Now that James Garner has just signed a new contract, I doubt it would happen but personally, despite the obvious media circus it would create, I would have liked to see United try to bring him back. He has developed so well in the past 12-18 months and now, he is the real deal and has played as well as any midfielder in the PL this season.
 
We should be looking at Sander Berge as a cheaper option. Very solid player who would surely cost less than 50m

West Ham’s Fernandez is also a very good CM

Supplement with Anderson if possible. I’m not totally convinced by Baleba
Agreed. I like him a lot and have for a while. Would slot into our squad very nicely.
 
We should be looking at Sander Berge as a cheaper option. Very solid player who would surely cost less than 50m

West Ham’s Fernandez is also a very good CM

Supplement with Anderson if possible. I’m not totally convinced by Baleba

Sounds decent. Was impressed with Berge against us but I never watch Fulham. What's his usual level? Looks relatively mobile for his size too.
 
We should be looking at Sander Berge as a cheaper option. Very solid player who would surely cost less than 50m

West Ham’s Fernandez is also a very good CM

Supplement with Anderson if possible. I’m not totally convinced by Baleba
Funny how people were dead against his signing from Burnley for about half that, under Erik.

Fernandes is a bit slack in possession for me, don't think he's what we're missing. I'd still take Baleba over both of those because of the profile of what we haven't got.
 
IF Tonali was really open to leaving in summer and able to offer CL then should we be in for him?
 
Funny how people were dead against his signing from Burnley for about half that, under Erik.

Fernandes is a bit slack in possession for me, don't think he's what we're missing. I'd still take Baleba over both of those because of the profile of what we haven't got.
I wouldn’t propose him under ETH, too much space to cover. But under this way that Carrick plays he could slot right in
 
We should be looking at Sander Berge as a cheaper option. Very solid player who would surely cost less than 50m

West Ham’s Fernandez is also a very good CM

Supplement with Anderson if possible. I’m not totally convinced by Baleba
Was impressed by Berge at the weekend.
 
IF Tonali was really open to leaving in summer and able to offer CL then should we be in for him?

Stylistically does he make sense alongside Mainoo?

Can't recall seeing too much of him playing recently, but this comment on Newcastle's forum makes me wonder.

The athleticism part is obviously good for what United will need in midfield, but sounds like some Newcastle fans would want to replace him with more the type of player Casemiro is and United might target:

"Tonali has tremendous athletic attributes but if he pushes for a move and we replaced him with a disciplined, press-resistant DM, I wouldn't be too perturbed.

He isn't really great in that "6" role as he's literally all over the pitch, chasing down their defenders, their keeper, leaving huge gaps that nobody bothers to fill.

This is also a wider tactical issue with our whole team, of course. But I think he's replaceable in that specific role. "

https://newcastle-online.org/topic/37798-sandro-tonali/page/623/
 
I think after watching City yesterday they struggled in midfield. Theyre going to go all out for Anderson and they can pay the 100m+ and high wages. Only thing that could be a problem if Pep leaves and there is manager uncertainty

Well have to have backup targets ready
 
Stylistically does he make sense alongside Mainoo?

Can't recall seeing too much of him playing recently, but this comment on Newcastle's forum makes me wonder.

The athleticism part is obviously good for what United will need in midfield, but sounds like some Newcastle fans would want to replace him with more the type of player Casemiro is and United might target:

"Tonali has tremendous athletic attributes but if he pushes for a move and we replaced him with a disciplined, press-resistant DM, I wouldn't be too perturbed.

He isn't really great in that "6" role as he's literally all over the pitch, chasing down their defenders, their keeper, leaving huge gaps that nobody bothers to fill.

This is also a wider tactical issue with our whole team, of course. But I think he's replaceable in that specific role. "

https://newcastle-online.org/topic/37798-sandro-tonali/page/623/
Like an upgraded version of Ugarte
 
Like an upgraded version of Ugarte
Their respective passing ability/composure under pressure is incomparable. Maybe they've seen more of his positioning but then again some of it will be Howe's instructions., because Tonali has always struck me as positionally smarter and a better reader of where ball is going to land than Ugarte. ST still wouldn't be my 1st or maybe even 3rd choice, but there are way, way worse options out there. Many Wolves fans would probably have said lukewarm things about Vitinha back in the day, and now he's a 100m rated player.
 
I wouldn’t propose him under ETH, too much space to cover. But under this way that Carrick plays he could slot right in
Yeah, Ten Hag was mental though. It literally was Frenkie or bust, he would have been a very good budget option at the time.
 
Solid thread to read about our pressing failures against Fulham and to help build a mental profile of what you want to see in midfield.

I still think Mainoo isn't quite the physical monster we want him to be for exactly these types of situations. A Declan Rice type #8 is becoming a necessity for us. Ugarte can temporarily do the job but is very limited on the ball. No one really believes in the Mainoo x Ugarte double pivot it seems (and probably for good reason).

 
Solid thread to read about our pressing failures against Fulham and to help build a mental profile of what you want to see in midfield.

I still think Mainoo isn't quite the physical monster we want him to be for exactly these types of situations. A Declan Rice type #8 is becoming a necessity for us. Ugarte can temporarily do the job but is very limited on the ball. No one really believes in the Mainoo x Ugarte double pivot it seems (and probably for good reason).


Ugarte is also vastly overrated defensively, he's awful at actually ancitipating/reading the game out of possession (the very thing that makes Casemiro a legend). Ugarte is more of a ball chaser/terrier much like Fred used to be. He'll put in a bunch of tackles and bring energy but if he's your main shield in front of the backline you're going to be fecked.
 
Tonali had gambling problems. His every foul, card ect... would be scrutinize for days on tv by oppo pundits.
 
Ugarte is also vastly overrated defensively, he's awful at actually ancitipating/reading the game out of possession (the very thing that makes Casemiro a legend). Ugarte is more of a ball chaser/terrier much like Fred used to be. He'll put in a bunch of tackles and bring energy but if he's your main shield in front of the backline you're going to be fecked.

Yes exactly, which is why I think he would've done fine (defensively) in the role that we gave Mainoo last game. He would still need to be paired with a Casemiro not Mainoo.

If we want to carry two "unathletic" midfielders (Mainoo and Bruno), we need to play Flick-esque ridiculously high line with the CBs sitting in the oppo half. If we don't do that, we need beasts like Onana, Rice, Anderson, Tonali etc. It's not just the physicality either, you need brains to go with it on when to press and when to drop. Very hard role to play.
 
Tonali has always struck me as positionally smarter and a better reader of where ball is going to land than Ugarte. ST still wouldn't be my 1st or maybe even 3rd choice, but there are way, way worse options out there. Many Wolves fans would probably have said lukewarm things about Vitinha back in the day, and now he's a 100m rated player.

Tonali is already the same age as Vitinha is now - 25.

Vitinha left Wolves when he was still 22.

A Declan Rice type #8 is becoming a necessity for us.

A "Declan Rice type #8" would be taken by pretty much any team. He's one of the best midfielders in the world. There does not appear to be anyone of his level likely available in the market.
 
If Chelsea didn’t finish top 5, would they be financially screwed enough to consider big offers for Caicedo?
Doubt it. They'll find another two hotels or the likes to sell to BlueCo to meet PSR requirements. He's signed until 2031 anyway, no way we sign him.
 
Tonali is already the same age as Vitinha is now - 25.

Vitinha left Wolves when he was still 22.



A "Declan Rice type #8" would be taken by pretty much any team. He's one of the best midfielders in the world. There does not appear to be anyone of his level likely available in the market.

I guess given the Tonali chatter, he would be a great fit for that role if he's available for cheap. I think Anderson will also do just fine at the role.

I know Rice can do so much more but the minimum skill set is has legs to run 90 minutes a game twice a week, physically imposing so he can win 1v1 defensive duels, smart, can do the rest of the basics like passing, touch etc. to a PL standard.
 
Unfortunately can see City getting Elliot Anderson, especially given it looks like Rodri is half the player he was since his big injury.
 
If we both have Champions League, why would he want to join City over United ?
 
If we qualify for Europe then we need 3-4 midfielders, we only really have Mainoo for next season as Ugarte is going to want out I'm sure.

Maybe one of those comes from someone already at the club but Collyer is injury prone and hasn’t really kicked on and no one else seems to be anywhere near the 1st team yet. Hopefully someone steps up for next season as it is hard to see us buying more than 2.
 
as it is hard to see us buying more than 2

Why? United bought 3 attacking players in one window with Mbeumo, Cunha and Sesko.

No reason they couldn't manage at least 3 midfielders in one window if the right ones were identified.
 
Ugarte is also vastly overrated defensively, he's awful at actually ancitipating/reading the game out of possession (the very thing that makes Casemiro a legend). Ugarte is more of a ball chaser/terrier much like Fred used to be. He'll put in a bunch of tackles and bring energy but if he's your main shield in front of the backline you're going to be fecked.
Ugarte reminds me of what the human embodiment of a jack russell, chasing a tennis ball on a park would look like. Just aimlessly running after the ball with blinkers on, and viciously attacking anyone that's carrying it who isn't one of his own. Zero awareness, zero tactfulness, zero calm. Just running around chopping and chasing the ball.

He's a midfielder that would've fit in perfectly with the Wimbledon team in the mid 90's.
 
Why? United bought 3 attacking players in one window with Mbeumo, Cunha and Sesko.

No reason they couldn't manage at least 3 midfielders in one window if the right ones were identified.
We got lucky with Cunha, especially Mbeumo that they wanted specifically us. As for Sesko, I hope he works out, but let's not forget he was like 4th or 5th choice for us, once we missed on players club and Amorim actually wanted... Ironically, he may end up being better than who they wanted (e.g. Delap looks like trash so far) but that doesn't change the fact that he was way down the packing order

You are not going to get lucky every time...
 
Why? United bought 3 attacking players in one window with Mbeumo, Cunha and Sesko.

No reason they couldn't manage at least 3 midfielders in one window if the right ones were identified.

Yeah but we let a lot of attacking players go, it tends to be one in one out. So I expect most likely outcome is Casemiro and Ugarte are replaced by 2 signings. It could be 3 but I’m not going to hold my breath on that.
 
Yeah but we let a lot of attacking players go, it tends to be one in one out. So I expect most likely outcome is Casemiro and Ugarte are replaced by 2 signings. It could be 3 but I’m not going to hold my breath on that.

If United qualify for Europe they will need to add extra players to the squad - so it will have to be more than one in for the one out.

United are arguably one man light already for the latter half of this season just being in the PL.

We got lucky with Cunha, especially Mbeumo that they wanted specifically us. As for Sesko, I hope he works out, but let's not forget he was like 4th or 5th choice for us, once we missed on players club and Amorim actually wanted...

Who were the 3 or 4 ahead of him?

Delap, maybe Ekitike, and?...
 
If United qualify for Europe they will need to add extra players to the squad - so it will have to be more than one in for the one out.

United are arguably one man light already for the latter half of this season just being in the PL.



Who were the 3 or 4 ahead of him?

Delap, maybe Ekitike, and?...

It should mean we need 3 but everyone knew we had to sign a midfielder last summer and we didn’t. We were also desperate for a keeper and didn’t get one until right at the end of the window and only when we knew Onana was going out the door so I wouldn’t count on it being more then 1 in 1 out.