Not convinced hes top quality but think he'd be a useful player to have in the mix
Not so much. We need top quality sprinkled through the team and good players who'll do a job and help balance out them world class players. I'm not convinced there is a midfielder who is really world class on the market. Anderson and Baleba could become top tier but neither are at this moment and baleba hasn't even been good this season.I don't understand this thinking.
United need top quality if they're to compete at the top of the table.
If they're not top quality then better save the dosh for someone who is.
I'm not convinced there is a midfielder who is really world class on the market.
I think if your looking for a better version of berge your talking about rodri. Who isn't available obviously. Berge seems as good a bet as anyone in that position, in that role. By all means give anderson a go but i dont see us taking 2 gambles like that. He's a different kind of player and i suspect his best midfield partner would be someone like berge anyway.You're correct there, but most the very top teams do have at least one world class CM.
Anderson is at least nearer to that. Berge clearly isn't and won't ever be.
I think if your looking for a better version of berge your talking about rodri. Who isn't available obviously. Berge seems as good a bet as anyone in that position, in that role. By all means give anderson a go but i dont see us taking 2 gambles like that. He's a different kind of player and i suspect his best midfield partner would be someone like berge anyway.
I'm not saying target berge instead of anderson. I'm saying target him as well
Not especially. I'd expect fletcher to have won the ball more and made more tackles than carrick in previous teams. I'd be looking to buy a carrick - so i dont necessarily expect his tackle stats to be noteworthy. I'd be actively looking to avoid bringing in a ugarte for instance who probably has great tackling stats. Maybe interceptions would fit more? Aerial Challenges i expected to be fairly measurable and that looked strong and passing which was better than expected.Sander Berge is only at 56th percentile in the Premier League for Pass-Adjusted Tackles+Assists per 90.
Presuming you're taking him for his ball-winning, his ball-winning is good, but not incredible by CM standards.
Even out of less fashionable 27 year-old PL players, Janelt and Stach both have arguably better defensive stats than Berge, as well as being similarly strong in the air and generally having more strings to their bow in terms of their overall game.
He's so overrated, no where near consistent enough for us.a ton of links with Morgan Gibbs White today in the papers
We were linked with him last summer and before he moved to Inter.Been a few links to Lucien Agoume from Sevilla over the past 24 hours, I can’t say I’ve watched anything of him as Sevilla aren’t what they were a few years ago so if anyone would like to fill us in on him ?
I think Sander Berge would be a good signing. Looks a more natural replacement for Casemiro than most. If were bring in a Baleba or Anderson would be good to have a more experienced midfielder knocking about.
Not convinced hes top quality but think he'd be a useful player to have in the mix
Yet the article then says Arsenal could go for himApparently, Tonali wants to go back to Italy. We've already asked about him.
He is still at Sevilla.We were linked with him last summer and before he moved to Inter.
From what I remember last summer, quite a few said he isn't very mobile.
Have we been linked to him?Mamadou Sangare at Lens looks like a very good player, the exact type of player we watch go to another Prem team and instantly look like he's good enough to play for us.
Yes, but before Sevilla he was at Inter.He is still at Sevilla.
I think he is on a list as backup to Baleba, as a cheap alternative I wouldn't be against, I trust Vivell to select the correct profile for us.
Yeah there were links he was going back to Inter but never happened.Yes, but before Sevilla he was at Inter.
He should be above Baleba on a shortlistHe is still at Sevilla.
I think he is on a list as backup to Baleba, as a cheap alternative I wouldn't be against, I trust Vivell to select the correct profile for us.
Fraction of the price too mateHe should be above Baleba on a shortlist
Yeah need to look at the European market as signing someone from there could be a shrewd moveFraction of the price too mate
Oh 100% if we can get him and anothger for around 100m far better business than spending 2/3 of that on Baleba.He should be above Baleba on a shortlist
I agree, this is something a lot of fans don't like to admit. Overall he's been alright since Carrick has taken over but I think the praise has been overblown slightly and he still has so far to go to be a CM we can rely on to win titles.What we absolutely should not be doing is approaching the market with this ‘partner for Mainoo’ approach. Mainoo is a third midfielder for me, not the first one or two. Football matches pass him by too frequently, and he has great ability but doesn’t add enough in any phase of play for me.
As a de facto first XI regular - it would need to be in an orthodox midfield 3 without a traditional 10. As one of the deeper two with a 10, a squad/development option for me.
I agree with you.What we absolutely should not be doing is approaching the market with this ‘partner for Mainoo’ approach. Mainoo is a third midfielder for me, not the first one or two. Football matches pass him by too frequently, and he has great ability but doesn’t add enough in any phase of play for me.
As a de facto first XI regular - it would need to be in an orthodox midfield 3 without a traditional 10. As one of the deeper two with a 10, a squad/development option for me.
Yeah i think mostly agree. I think he's been quite good in recent matches and happy for him to play, I think he's good enough, but i'd still want 2 starting quality midfielders. He's good enough to compete, not to be a de facto starter. I probably agree about him ultimately being a 10 or a 3rd midfielder too.What we absolutely should not be doing is approaching the market with this ‘partner for Mainoo’ approach. Mainoo is a third midfielder for me, not the first one or two. Football matches pass him by too frequently, and he has great ability but doesn’t add enough in any phase of play for me.
As a de facto first XI regular - it would need to be in an orthodox midfield 3 without a traditional 10. As one of the deeper two with a 10, a squad/development option for me.
Hmmm apparently that Edu Burgos who reported this is considered reliable for South America so maybe something in links for Guimaraes and GomesAS are saying we've get informal talks with Bruno Guimaraes and Tonali agents. Them along with Anderson are primary targets with Wharton and Joao Gomes back to options
He's too slow and not physical enough for PL football. Was no success at Juventus, I guess his ceiling is a club like Atalanta.This from the gossip thread.
Juventus could be prepared to sell Dutch midfielder Teun Koopmeiners but want at least 30m euros (£26m) for the 28-year-old, who has been linked with Galatasaray and Roma. (Tuttosport - in Italian), external
I remember people suggesting him a few years ago. Don't know what he is playing like now.
AS are saying we've get informal talks with Bruno Guimaraes and Tonali agents. Them along with Anderson are primary targets with Wharton and Joao Gomes back to options
I think we need to be very careful with our choices. Signing midfielders from clubs like Nottingham Forest where there primary job is to hustle and play the ball forward quickly for a counter attack is very different to our needs when teams sit deep. We definitely need a player with legs but even more so we need a player that can unlock defences and dictate play. We need to think very carefully this summer
What we absolutely should not be doing is approaching the market with this ‘partner for Mainoo’ approach. Mainoo is a third midfielder for me, not the first one or two. Football matches pass him by too frequently, and he has great ability but doesn’t add enough in any phase of play for me.
Yeah think that age bracket will put them offBruno G would be an insane signing if we can make it happen. He'll be 29 in Nov, so I'm wary of spending big money on an aging player.
Anderson plays for Forest, yet is very clearly capable of unlocking defences with his passing.
I am starting to wonder this with the way he's been playing lately. But the key thing still is though to get him to sign that blasted new contract before he's shunted in to a rotation option. If United sign the 2 or 3 new CMs which they really need to this summer, but with Kobbie not yet having extended, then he might end up throwing his toys out the pram again at being on the bench sometimes and refuse to put pen to paper.
I had the same misgivings until I watched him play for England, I think he plays better with better players and would be great for us.I think we need to be very careful with our choices. Signing midfielders from clubs like Nottingham Forest where there primary job is to hustle and play the ball forward quickly for a counter attack is very different to our needs when teams sit deep. We definitely need a player with legs but even more so we need a player that can unlock defences and dictate play. We need to think very carefully this summer
