Champions League - Quarter Finals - 7/4, 8/4, 14/4, 15/4

It's not his fault his teammates mess up most of the chances he makes, he played 2-3 really good balls but then Salah/Jones messed their touch and a potentially good chance. He was pretty decent today, like you said played some nice passes into space, and in the first leg, but he alone can't make the whole team play better.

Seriously? He was so mediocre. It was a Curtis Jones level performance. At best.
 
Watching CBS makes me laugh because you just know in 20 years time that channel is going to be used to pass this era off as the "good old days".
 
With those defenders and Flick’s tactics Barca won’t win the champions league.
Always entertaining but you can’t make mistakes like that every year against teams you should be winning.
 
Very good performance from Barca, to be fair. No team goes away to Atleti and beats them in the CL in a knockout tie and they did it. The typical naivety and lack of experience at the back cost them, as was rather predictable for months now.

yet at the same time Aleti gifted almost everything in that lapse when Barca scored two, they were utterly STUPID
 
Nah, there’s relatively easy CL quarter final opponents and then there’s Sporting.
Oh, I know. If you could have a choice of ties, you'd choose that one. But, Arsenal have it in them to mess that one up completely. I don't think it'll be straightforward. They did leave it very late before they scored in the first leg, too.

(It's probably just wishful thinking on my part)
 
Seriously? He was so mediocre. It was a Curtis Jones level performance. At best.

I would say it was a 7/10 performance. I think he messed up one potentially great position, where he had 2-3 players around him in the box and took an extra touch, but rather created a few for others, which they didn't use.
 
I don't know why I even bother trying to have a constructive discussion about him, pretty good that I have the Wirtz thread on ignore then.
I'm only teasing. To be constructive... yes he can be neat and tidy. But, as has been pointed out numerous times, that is nowhere near enough for a £50m player, let alone a £120m one. He was bought to be the focal point of the attack, to elevate those around him and to consistently decide the outcome of games. He wasn't bought to be another Mac Allister or Jones.
 
Best thing about that Liverpool performance was that they actually tried, they're just devoid of quality.
 
Shut the door on your way out, Liverpool. Nice to see Barcelona out, too. A strong last 4, I’m thinking Bayern this year for some reason. PSG probably favourites.
 
:lol: :lol:Can’t knock the effort but it was always going to have to be us who scored first to have a chance.

Finish in the top five and change managers end of season. Best possible outcome for me now.
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Barca matches have the highest entertainment value but man the tactics are absolutely suicidal.
 
Best thing about that Liverpool performance was that they actually tried, they're just devoid of quality.
Was almost better that they avoided embarrassment in that first leg. To see them get hopeful in the second half was hilarious. They were never keeping PSG off the scoresheet tonight.
 
I can't believe they're still convinced that it was a penalty. :lol:

They're just trying to stir up controversy. Never a penalty. Should never have been given in the first place, but rightfully overturned.
 
After seeing what goes into putting certain sporting events on I find it insane that they’re all stood there holding umbrellas. Get a pop up cover or something.

Not as insane as them all thinking that it was a penalty though.
 
If Arsenal win they'll struggle in the semi. Athletico can rest their whole team in the games before and Arsenal will be giving everything in the league matches.
 
Why would anyone watch this Atlético to progress over Barcelona? Who wants to see an Atlético vs Arsenal semi or worse, one of them two in the final over this insanely attacking Barcelona side? Are people just still hurt from what they did to us 15 years ago?
 
As much as I hate Arsenal, watching them against Atletico is going to be fascinating in terms of shithousery.
 
Barca matches have the highest entertainment value but man the tactics are absolutely suicidal.
I honestly rather watch that kind of football even with no trophies at the end of the season rathe than some of the utterly horrendous dross you see elsewhere.
 
I'm only teasing. To be constructive... yes he can be neat and tidy. But, as has been pointed out numerous times, that is nowhere near enough for a £50m player, let alone a £120m one. He was bought to be the focal point of the attack, to elevate those around him and to consistently decide the outcome of games. He wasn't bought to be another Mac Allister or Jones.

He's certainly not playing like a 120m player at all right now but him deciding games is still relative on how his teammates play as well. Cherki played a great pass to Guehi, who took a wonderful first touch and finished the chance, Wirtz played a great ball to Jones but his first touch was poor and Marquinhos blocked him. Similarly, Wirtz played Salah in space on the wing but Salah's touch meant Pacho intercepted the ball.

Wirtz is certainly missing those 30 yard through balls or thunderbolts that De Bruyne could pull off at times, his strength is more from keeping the attack flowing with those touches and passes in tight spaces. Whether he'll ever be worth 100m with that profile is another question.
 
As much as I hate Arsenal, watching them against Atletico is going to be fascinating in terms of shithousery.
Gabriel and Co won't be able to get away with the stuff they usually do. Atleti are far more brutal in their physicality :lol:
Why would anyone watch this Atlético to progress over Barcelona? Who wants to see an Atlético vs Arsenal semi or worse, one of them two in the final over this insanely attacking Barcelona side? Are people just still hurt from what they did to us 15 years ago?
The only good thing about Atleti making it is that they're probably the harder opponent for Arsenal! As a spectacle, Barca would be far more entertaining, even as potential finalists. I feel Inter robbed us off a great spectacle last year as well.
 
Why would anyone watch this Atlético to progress over Barcelona? Who wants to see an Atlético vs Arsenal semi or worse, one of them two in the final over this insanely attacking Barcelona side? Are people just still hurt from what they did to us 15 years ago?
Yes... I'd rather Liverpool win it than those fecking fecks.
 
The only good thing about Atleti making it is that they're probably the harder opponent for Arsenal! As a spectacle, Barca would be far more entertaining, even as potential finalists. I feel Inter robbed us off a great spectacle last year as well.
Agreed except the first part. Arsenal can't compete with Atlético in terms of shithousery. No one can really :lol:

I also really have a low opinion of this Arsenal side, maybe I am in the minority but I think they would be completely outplayed and dominated by Barcelona, PSG or Bayern. Against Atlético it's a 50/50.
 
:lol: Konate. He was waffling so much he forgot the question. He actually seems alright to be fair.