I do like Werner but he's just too shit at finishing to be relied upon.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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I think we'll certainly see that at some point as Tuchel tried to find what works best.
I see Werner as needing to move elsewhere.
Reminds me a little of when United had Diego Forlan.
I suspect Werner will light it up at his next club but for whatever reason he just can’t get going at Chelsea and the damage is now already done. Definitely needs a fresh start.
Yeah, that was kind of my point. If you could find someone similiar, but prolific it would lift you up instantly. Not an easy find, I know.
Agreed. I wouldn't be hugely surprised if another trophyless season sees him given the boot if the football isn't attractive enough. Even if he manages to secure top 4.
In a side who sets up to play without the ball and hopes for counters he'd be great.
I think teams also understood the system well comparing to tuchel s initial days with Werner and didn't allow Werner time and space.
We also need to upgrade jorginho in my opinion. Have time and space to pick runners yesterday few times but looking slow in decision making.
Totally agree. Werner’s style is perfect for our system. He runs the channels, unsettles defenses and creates space for other players. Without him, the space in the middle gets closed down very quickly which forces us out wide and that’s where teams want us because there’s usually no options right now inside the box.
Peak Henry would be perfect.
Where will Kovacic and Gallagher play?
I mean Marina had her upsides but it seems this is another case of someone getting better when they're not here.
Her contract management left a lot to be desired and I can pretty safely say that this window will end up better than 2017 and last summer.
You didn’t answer the question.
Listen to Pep from 04:07 (well, the whole interview is pretty good) and how much he admired you even before he lost that final.
I’m no Chelsea fan but it seems obvious to me, Chilwell is just coming back from a really bad injury and has had injury concerns for a while, which leaves the killer as their fallback option and he’s a bit crap at this point. Add in all the distance the Chelsea wingbacks cover and the rotation that’ll be necessary this season, quality depth is very much a necessity for them.
I (and many others) did days ago and some have again.
I've addressed the part of your post I've wanted too.
Why did Chelsea spend a ton on Cucarella? Because he is a very good player who can play multiple positions, Chillwell is coming off of an extremely serious injury and the club doesn't want to have to rely on Alonso or Emerson at left wing back, left centre back or left back if we switch to a back 4.
Why did Man United spend £56 million on that guy from from the Dutch league despite you having a lot of CBs? Because you're not happy with what you had in that position. Good players cost a shitload, especially when the selling club knows the buyer has money.
Silva is just a rolls royce of a defender, very class. Thought KK was solid too.
But yeah toothless in attack, Havertz just drifts around without trying to affect the game and was poor, same with Mount.
But yeah toothless in attack, Havertz just drifts around without trying to affect the game and was poor, same with Mount.
Whatever you think about our midfield kovasic and Gallagher can't bring the conductor role for our play.
Yes he still can play but calming down the play and orchestrate the midfield he is not. Him and gallagher more suited for three man midfield to play than jorginho role if we wanted to play to their strength.
You simply have too many midfielders in that case. That’s not even mentioning RLC and Gilmour.
Werner off. Back to Leipzig permanent
Took the pay cut to rejoin them. Hope he get back the confidence and get into German team for world cup.
Could you link that please?
OK, thanks.
As above its on Romano's feed. German based guys also confirmed it. Sad to see him go but he'll do well when he returns to them probably.
Also a lot of chatter about CHO asking to go on loan...
CHO needs a move for sure. Barring injury to others he's going to struggle making the bench.
Why would Chelsea let Werner off, especially when they are so short of attacking options? Surely, they aren't contemplating going into the new season with Sterling as the only forward with consistent goalscoring threat! That would be suicidal.
Is there any credibility to Nkunku rumours, now that Aubameyang's have seemingly disappeared?
Is there any credibility to Nkunku rumours, now that Aubameyang's have seemingly disappeared?
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I don't know, depends on what happens to Ziyech and whether someone new comes in.
With Werner gone and if Ziyech were to leave as well, there would be Havertz, Broja, Sterling, Pulisic, Mount and CHO for the places in the front three. That's less competition than Callum's ever had during his time in the first team so could be real opportunity for him.
Wouldn't mind Werner, Ziyech, CHO all going though, and a new signing brought in. No idea who that could be.
I had been drinking quite a bit and was going to go into the cost of the 1.3 billion dollar stadium and the sheer cost of just the Jumbotron, and ended up talking about a billion dollar jumbotron.
Your analysis of the kinds of owners is about right, except for the 4th —> the groups that view sports teams as a “meta” ownership and will frankly spend as much as they have to. Not because they just don’t care about what they spend, but because the value is having a cultural vehicle for accomplishing other things. That’s what Clearlake is. They are tech giant money, and as an ownership group they have a LOT more money than Roman did. Wyss, for instance, sees teams as away to promote environmental causes.
Drunk slips aside, I guarantee Clearlake will spend more money, at all levels, than Roman did.
Which is good …. Because someone to connect middle to the final third and provide actual scoring danger would be nice.
Or obviously an attacker. But ANY attacker we get right now will be isolated, or have to pick up the ball 20 yards outside the box.
Tuchel may not think he needs mids, but if neither of his pairing comes forward to offer something, then things won’t change and it is a system issue. And as much as I live Kante, if he’s the one coming forward it will be a mediocre attack at best.
Kovacic fixes some of those issues, but you need to have someone technically superior AND defensively sound paired with him for it to work. We are always short one or the the other and get in trouble when he’s paired with Kante or Jorgihno.
the back line was brilliant, but both Silva and Koulibaliy almost went off with leg issues and it’s just the first game.
So it’s Fofana(or other option), attacker, AND De Jong (if an actual option for me).
Because he wants to leave and he's really bad.
Apparently we will be getting in a forward to replace him. No idea who that is yet though, Hope it's someone creative.
The fee is supposedly 30m.
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Wait RB are stupid enough to pay that much for him after his form for you?
Yup and they knew how good he can be with space. He returned to them as cl winner though.
There's zero chance we're getting 30 mil for Werner.
If it's euros it's feasible. Reportedly he's taking a huge pay cut to facilitate the move.
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30 million euros according to the report.
Is this what being wrong feels like?
It's strange. I don't like it.
Well a) sounds like they are, and b) it's not really a stupid amount. He's a very good player who, apart from finishing, was a decent player for Chelsea. Granted, goals was the main thing we signed him and he was terrible at that, hence why he's back at Leipzig now, but he had a lot of other qualities that Chelsea benefited from. They know him better than any club I guess, and they know the value he can provide to them.
I'm happy we've recouped at least half of the money we paid for him, and I wish him all the best. I hope he regains he scoring touch in the Bundesliga.
Kind of sad to see him go but we signed a superior replacement already in Sterling. Could probably do with 2 more forwards though..
Shame, though given how many players we have can't be surprised, good to get one shifted at least. Played a big part in us winning the CL and getting top 4 last two seasons.
Leaving already... Probably best if he's fallen out with Tuchel.
My guess is he'll start banging the goals in again pretty shortly over there.
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