Chelsea 26/27 - Definitely going to win the league.

Cheating is fine as long as you pay a small fee for it.
 
We've been punished loads.

Really? Hardly significantly.

The charges relate to secret payments made between 2011 and 2018. That is a fecking long time that clearly shows the club was blatantly cheating for a long period. I realise the new owners are fessing up but seems like you are being allowed to move on a little too easily.
 
Suspended sanctions don't make sense in football. Did you break the rules ? Yes ? Here is your punishment in full.
What is the suspension for ? See if they do it a 15th time ?
 
Really? Hardly significantly.

The charges relate to secret payments made between 2011 and 2018. That is a fecking long time that clearly shows the club was blatantly cheating for a long period. I realise the new owners are fessing up but seems like you are being allowed to move on a little too easily.

We've had a transfer ban and probably funded (through all the fines) every single grass roots initiative in England for the past two decades.

Just say thank you and move on.
 
Suspended sanctions don't make sense in football. Did you break the rules ? Yes ? Here is your punishment in full.
What is the suspension for ? See if they do it a 15th time ?
Need a 10 year ban.
 
Wow, I am really shocked that a big 6 club has gotten away with something.
 
Look at what their recruitment looks like since they stopped the dodgy agents payments. Are they not suffering enough already?
 
We've had a transfer ban and probably funded (through all the fines) every single grass roots initiative in England for the past two decades.

Just say thank you and move on.

:lol:

Thanks Roman for the corruption.
 
So basically they can't sign players for two windows beginning next summer yes
 
So basically they can't sign players for two windows beginning next summer yes

It's a suspended transfer ban. So no its essentially just a £10m fine.
 
So basically they can't sign players for two windows beginning next summer yes

Yes.

On the one hand, its probably easier to deal with that when you have like 40 players registered already.

On the other hand, its still a significant problem for them that they won't be able to improve the team next summer, which ordinarily one would imagine to be a critical one for the Alonso project (new manager in a new league typically gets a sense of his team and their strengths and weaknesses the first year, then tries to make transfers to solve problems and go to the next level).
 
Yes.

On the one hand, its probably easier to deal with that when you have like 40 players registered already.

On the other hand, its still a significant problem for them that they won't be able to improve the team next summer, which ordinarily one would imagine to be a critical one for the Alonso project (new manager in a new league typically gets a sense of his team and their strengths and weaknesses the first year, then tries to make transfers to solve problems and go to the next level).

Reading Jacobs' tweet suggests they can't register players for two windows beginning in the summer of 27.

 
Reading Jacobs' tweet suggests they can't register players for two windows beginning in the summer of 27.



That's how I understand it too. Summer 27 and winter 28 windows they will be banned from new registrations.
 
Yes.

On the one hand, its probably easier to deal with that when you have like 40 players registered already.

On the other hand, its still a significant problem for them that they won't be able to improve the team next summer, which ordinarily one would imagine to be a critical one for the Alonso project (new manager in a new league typically gets a sense of his team and their strengths and weaknesses the first year, then tries to make transfers to solve problems and go to the next level).
Reading Jacobs' tweet suggests they can't register players for two windows beginning in the summer of 27.



The transfer ban only activates if Chelsea commit further financial rule breaches. What Ben Jacobs is saying is the suspended transfer ban hangs over Chelsea's heads until June 2027 at which point it expires, if there no further breaches. That's how I've understood it.
 
These days? This for stuff done going as far back as 17 years ago.

I'm not suggesting you don't laugh at Chelsea but there's no "these days".
Don't you think things have been a bit more out of control since the take-over? The transfer strategy just seems bizarre to me now.
 
Reading Jacobs' tweet suggests they can't register players for two windows beginning in the summer of 27.



That's not what it means. It means if they break the rules again between now and summer 27 then the suspended sentence/punishment will be enforced.
 
Reading Jacobs' tweet suggests they can't register players for two windows beginning in the summer of 27.


That's how I understand it too. Summer 27 and winter 28 windows they will be banned from new registrations.
Not correct. It is a suspended registration ban - so only comes into effect if there are further breaches (in addition to the suspended points deduction and whatever separate punishment an additional breach would carry)
 
Not correct. It is a suspended registration ban - so only comes into effect if there are further breaches (in addition to the suspended points deduction and whatever separate punishment an additional breach would carry)

So Jacobs (unsurprisingly) isn't correct.
 
Not correct. It is a suspended registration ban - so only comes into effect if there are further breaches (in addition to the suspended points deduction and whatever separate punishment an additional breach would carry)

You no doubt know better than I but its weird that none of the tweets or stories I've seen mention this. Can you link me to a news story that explains this?
 
Jacobs is correct. That's what suspended means in this context.

Interesting. They way he wrote it infers that they wouldn't get to register players for two windows from 27 onwards and the suspended bit referred to no suspension bans right now until 27.
 
So Jacobs (unsurprisingly) isn't correct.
His wording is correct; a suspended ban means that it doesn't go into effect unless there are additional offenses in the time window mentioned.
You no doubt know better than I but its weird that none of the tweets or stories I've seen mention this. Can you link me to a news story that explains this?
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/74...hared_gift_article_copylink&smid=url-share-ta

Relevant bit: "Internally, there has always been a lot of confidence this would be the conclusion. But it is still a significant development that a transfer ban and/or points deduction has been avoided. No one would blame them had some concerns over ‘what if?’ scenarios, even if just for a few minutes, entered their minds at times, especially as it continued to drag on."
 
His wording is correct; a suspended ban means that it doesn't go into effect unless there are additional offenses in the time window mentioned.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/74...hared_gift_article_copylink&smid=url-share-ta

Relevant bit: "Internally, there has always been a lot of confidence this would be the conclusion. But it is still a significant development that a transfer ban and/or points deduction has been avoided. No one would blame them had some concerns over ‘what if?’ scenarios, even if just for a few minutes, entered their minds at times, especially as it continued to drag on."

Thanks!
 
So only a 10 million fine and 1 year where they can’t cheat again. After 30 jun 2027 everything is fine again.
 
We've had a transfer ban and probably funded (through all the fines) every single grass roots initiative in England for the past two decades.

Just say thank you and move on.
:lol: what? Do you normally say 'thank you' after a criminal gets convicted?
Also, how many/much fees are we talking about?
 
We've had a transfer ban and probably funded (through all the fines) every single grass roots initiative in England for the past two decades.

Just say thank you and move on.
When I saw this I genuinely thought to myself that I bet you latch onto the grassroots bit and make it look like you’re doing an equivalent of social responsibility. :lol: