To be fair you claimed the only test you saw for Chelsea in the Southampton, Madrid and Utd run was Atletico.
Stop derailing the thread!
I know, right!
I think it’s just me who sees your post bro.
I'm the three time, reigning and defending "best oppo poster" I'll have you know.I think it’s just me who sees your post bro.
Cnut
They are both young and will be good players.for the club. It will take some time for tuchel to implement his way of playing and philosophy. For now he just needs to confirm CL CL qualification as do we. I think he is erring on the side of caution and picking experienced players where possible while he gets to grips with the league.
The league of opposition posters on the Caf is so poor currently that you have been easily running away with the title! We need proper competition in order to challenge you, not boring and WUM oppos!
Yeah if the new signings had managed to be just ok, I think we'd be comfortably in the top 4. The fact that both of these two have been so utterly non-existent is what's disappointing. At least Ziyech had the two games against Sheffield Utd and Burnley earlier in the season where he looked incredible. Havertz has, for various reasons, had a nothing season so far.
Could inadvertently work out for us next season (assuming it's teething issues that are the problem) as they will be relitevely well rested in what has been a relentless football schedule.
The treatment of Havertz by Lampard and Tuchel couldn't be more different. Lampard threw him into cold water and it looked like he wasn't ready to swim yet while Tuchel has barely played him at all, even though the attack is currently your biggest concern I think. I hope this pays off. I mean, I was happy to get such a high sum in covid times for him (and still think he's worth it) and he joined an immensely talented team but had my doubts if Lampard was the right coach for him. Tuchel, at least on paper, is a better fit IMO. Interesting that he sees Havertz as a false 9 primarily since I'd have said his best position is the 8.
Quite ironic coming from you and definitely worthy of finally putting you on ignore.
Same, and they seem to be heavily linked with Haaland too which is concerning.
“called out and laughed at”...
! If I remember correctly (who are we kidding of course I do) I had more posters (United fans no less) agreeing with my initial post on the issue which started with a comparison and personal preference between Sane and Rashford (SMH). You just couldn't bear to see an oppo fan with Mount in his user name dare choose Sane over Rashford...in a United forum, came straight at me ignoring all the other United fans with similar opinions.Not as blatant as you chose to see it. Maybe your interpretation of a test is different from mine. This post was made without the benefit of hindsight and at that moment ATM was the team I thought was significantly better than us and would take a lot of effort to get a good result from. I thought we were pretty much at par with United and was going to be an evenly matched game whiles we should really beat Southampton. Obviously didn't work out that way but my definition of a test is a game we go into as significant underdogs.
You write some shit fairplay“called out and laughed at”...
You've obviously never been the same again after our exchange and I understand. It's hard work turning into oppo shit posts police but someone's gotta do it right.
What's funny is that for some strange reason you seem to be under the impression that I could possibly care about what some stranger I'll most definitely never ever meet in real life, with a made-up name, in a public football forum, over the internet thinks about my posts.
And no I'm not gonna put you on ignore, obviously you kinda need this because how else will you be able to follow me around telling everyone you can to go read my other posts
I'll make them extra shit just for you my friend, just for you.
I do write some shit sometimes
and it always attracts the right type of flies....some more recognizable than others.You should rethink putting him on ignore, can only recommend.“called out and laughed at”...
You've obviously never been the same again after our exchange and I understand. It's hard work turning into oppo shit posts police but someone's gotta do it right.
What's funny is that for some strange reason you seem to be under the impression that I could possibly care about what some stranger I'll most definitely never ever meet in real life, with a made-up name, in a public football forum, over the internet thinks about my posts.
And no I'm not gonna put you on ignore, obviously you kinda need this because how else will you be able to follow me around telling everyone you can to go read my other posts
I'll make them extra shit just for you my friend, just for you.
I hope so, but neither have filled me with confidence. Ziyech especially might end up being the odd man out this summer, which would be such a shame. Seeing bits of discontent brewing in the fanbase about him already.
Yeah Ziyech is the one I'm worried about which surprised me a little as he was the one I was convinced would have the best immediate impact, as Bruno Fernandes and Alexis Sanchez shown/showed the heroball/high risk type of players tend to work in the PL.
Yeah there is something about the way we play under Tuchel that seems at odds with Ziyech's qualities. I hope that with some rest and a preseason Tuchel will eventually open up the playbook, as they say in the NFL, and implement a more balanced approach. I have no worries about Havertz either, in fact, forgive the cliches, but considering we have hardly seen anything noteworthy from him, he may just be like a new signing for the team next season.
Sure thing mate.
A thousand apologies to every one in here. Sorry for derailing the thread so much.
Alisson, Fabinho, and Jota are back right?
I wouldn't be worried about him. Obviously he is a good manager but he is not on the elite level. He has the best squad in PSG but yet he couldn't win them the CL and consistently bottle it in the latter stages of the competition. If he was still there this season, he would have also lost them the title. He has also proven at his previous stints that when things goes badly for him, they would go downhill very quickly.
Right
This seems a very strong opinion to form on a manager who has had a pretty good career so far...
I'm not doubting his record as a manager. He is a good manager, no doubt about it but towards the end of his tenure, things always end badly for him. He seems to do a Jose, fell out with the board and go on a drastic poor run of results. Just ask any Dortmund or PSG fans.
I think most Dortmund fans would've taken Tuchel back in a heart beat during the last 3 or even 4 years. He's got an exceptional reputation over here. You have to be careful with predictions like these but if I were to rank the coaches in the EPL currently I'd place him as third behind Guardiola and Klopp although I also think very highly of Bielsa. Interestingly he's like a mixture of those three. In the beginning he was seen as Klopp 2.0 at Mainz, then he developed into a huge Guardiola admirer but he's also less diplomatic than both and can be difficult to work with, like Bielsa (who himeslf was a role model to Guardiola again). So let's see.
Tuchel's record after the Monaco games (-> final breakup with the club management over the bomb attack) was 5W 2D 0L. This includes beating Bayern and then Frankfurt for the DFB cup title.
I thought he only had two cracks with PSG and the loss to Bayern was to a truly special team. The United loss the year prior was a massive bottle job I'll give you that.
I checked out Dortmund's subreddit when we appointed Tuchel (those guys are seriously pining after Klopp to come back to them
) and their mood towards him seemed to be exactly as you said. He's a bit of a difficult guy to get along with but he's great tactically.If there's one undisputed characteristic of Tuchel, it's his tactical prowess. I think his ties in the German coaching scene are quite telling in this regard. Many people associate him with Klopp because both trained Mainz and Dortmund and at the time had similar playing styles. But Tuchel himself trained under Ralf Rangnick and had both Marco Rose and Julian Nagelsmann as his assistant coaches at the beginning of their careers. He was also the first to foster Rene Maric, assistant coach to Marco Rose at Salzburg, Gladbach and soon to be Dortmund, when he was still a football blogger for spielverlagerung.de, who's considered as one of the biggest football geeks in Germany right now and whose career could take a similar path as Nagelsmann's. Interestingly, Tuchel, Nagelsmann and Maric all had to end their playing careers prematurely due to serious injuries.I checked out Dortmund's subreddit when we appointed Tuchel (those guys are seriously pining after Klopp to come back to them
