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Discussion in 'Other Sport' started by Danny1982, Jan 13, 2015.

  1. Nov 28, 2018

    oneniltothearsenal Caf's Milton Friedman (and Arse aficionado) Scout

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    Not sure why black brought the pawn up instead of preventing the rook fork

    ok this is why I am no grandmaster

    although why no Qd5
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    Samid follows Pogue around, fixing his images

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    Fosu-Mens Full Member

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    Grylte "nothing wrong with some friendly incest, bro"

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    Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Grats Magnus!
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    settembrini Full Member

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    Well I guess Carlsen has fully vindicated his play in the final two classical games. He dismantled Caruana today, not even close between them in rapid time controls.
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    Macern Pee pee pants

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    Mani Full Member

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    This guy is unstoppable atm and I don't think anyone capable of beating him in the near future, simply fantastic.
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    NM Full Member

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    What's all the Magnus worship about? His play is declining. 2 years ago he would have dismantled Caruana in 12 games easy.

    He seems distracted these days, like Kasparov before he retired
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    Mani Full Member

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    Agree with what you said he doesn't look same as he was against Anand, but my point is I don't see anyone capable enough to take his top spot in the near future.
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    Ødegaard formerly MrEriksen Scout

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    I think it's down to recent chess being improved a lot defensively by the help of stockfish and the likes, winning has become harder.
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    Grylte "nothing wrong with some friendly incest, bro"

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    Lots of Norwegians on here, we're not best in much, so when we finally find something (except from winter sports), it's pretty big for us.

    And what @Ødegaard said, plus that people also have gotten used to how Magnus plays, and have found ways to make it much tougher for him.
    Like Karjakin last time, was so good in defense, that he made the win tougher for Magnus than it has been before.
    Caruana is a better player than Karjakin too.
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    donkeyfish Full Member

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    We're best at everything you fool.
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    donkeyfish Full Member

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    When you win 3-0 in the play-off you'll get plaudits, it was utter domination. I'm also not sure whether his play has declined or whether his opponents play has improved.
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    He was expected to crush him in the play-offs, and even one win for either player leads to lop-sided results in rapid due to the pressure.

    Anyway, my point was Carlsen isn't playing as well as he used to.

    This simply isn't true. Magnus' style is more computer-like (and that's a compliment) than any other player. Computers have neutralized the likes of Topalov and to some extent Anand.. Not the Karjakin and Carlsens of the world.
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    settembrini Full Member

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    I don't think what I said is 'Magnus worship'. He DID dismantle Caruana in the rapid games, 3-0 with every game being comfortable for him.

    I agree he isn't as good as he used be in classical time controls but given that he's just won another world championship I guess he doesn't need to be that winning machine anymore. Back then he was a super serious chess obsessive, a modern Fischer. Now he's a different person, he's more relaxed and fun in interviews, he plays bullet tournaments while drinking beer and streaming on twitch, he is in a serious relationship for the first time in his life etc. I would love to see the Magnus of old back and pushing for a 2900 elo but I can't begrudge someone who has achieved so much easing back and enjoying life more instead.
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    Ødegaard formerly MrEriksen Scout

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    Caruana played a lot of computer moves from what I remember, especially defensively.
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    donkeyfish Full Member

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    That's my impression as well. Incredible geometric vision.

    Even AlphaZero plays in a way that reminds me of peak Carlsen, really preferring positions where opponent has no counterplay regardless of material balance. It does it better of course.
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    Raees Legal Guardian of the Football forums

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    @settembrini @donkeyfish so roughly after 2 weeks, I'm breaking through into 1200 (majority of losses were in the first week and since then have been able to beat guys in the 1300-1500 range). Is that average progress, and what stage is it when you're considered a 'competitive' player at a good level. Managed to play a 'Legal's Mate' today, in an actual match after learning it this morning - couldn't believe it!
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    settembrini Full Member

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    Any progress is good and if you were struggling against 1200s one week and beating 1400s the next then that's great.

    Are you playing with an account on lichess? Then you can check how you rank on either your profile or their rating distribution page.

    https://lichess.org/stat/rating/distribution/classical
    1425 is the average classical rating atm. Get above that and you can consider yourself an above average player in that time control. Above 1800 would put you in the top 10%.
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    Mrs Smoker Full Member

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    Got myself to 1700+ in 1 minute time limit. Greatest 5 minutes of my life.
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    donkeyfish Full Member

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    Nepomniatchi :lol:
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    Mrs Smoker Full Member

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    What happened?

    Game with Salem? Checked it now, he went from winning position to eventual loss.

    Nice tournament, I was checking it often. Carlsen once opened with 1. e4 e5 2. Qh5 :D

    Lost that game.
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    Mrs Smoker Full Member

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    Blitz Championship from tomorrow!

    I'll get lost if I follow it live.
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    altodevil Just another Duffy

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    Folk should be happy with 1200 classical. You'll likely best any normal person every game. Should be free of most blunders by then.
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    donkeyfish Full Member

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    The one against Salem yeah, you could just see his desire to live ebb out when he realised he was lost.
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    Mrs Smoker Full Member

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    Anyone knows the best way to follow blitz world championship?

    Tried now on chess24, and it's just too *laggy* so to say, 5-6 moves go in one update.
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    Mrs Smoker Full Member

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    Watching actual video, with commentators is much faster, though, just one board. Probably better that way anyway.
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    donkeyfish Full Member

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    I don't think any graphics are capable of following blitz, it always ends up lagging behind. Video is the only way
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    Mrs Smoker Full Member

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    Kid is dominating!

    Impressive in rapid as well.


    (ok, he's a bit older now, 15, even has moustache)

    Also, will play Carlsen in next round.

    And lost.

    Hype off!
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    donkeyfish Full Member

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    It's so humiliating losing to children, imagine when it happens as a chess professional :lol:
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    Mrs Smoker Full Member

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    Last round in a few minutes.

    Carlsen 16/20
    Duda 15.5/20

    Rest are 1.5+ points below.
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    donkeyfish Full Member

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    Just heard what happened. He missed the start somehow? And when he finally arrived he just had 1 minute left on the clock but Magnus offered a draw? Didn't really understand what happened.
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    pillory Full Member

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    Carlsen's record in the rapid and blitz WC, updated:

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    donkeyfish Full Member

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    He sat in the lounge chatting shit and forgot the time :lol: Then he offered a draw after ten moves which Carlsen accepted.

    Imagine forgetting the start of your game when you're in the World Championships. He's my new hero
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    Mrs Smoker Full Member

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    To be fair, Carlsen missed a minute or so as well in one of his matches, think it was against Gefland.
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    Samid follows Pogue around, fixing his images

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    Carlsen finally wins a game after 21 consecutive draws.
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    pillory Full Member

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    Two wins for white and nine for black in the tournament so far!
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    UnrelatedPsuedo I pity the poor fool who stinks like I do!

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    Grylte "nothing wrong with some friendly incest, bro"

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    While the WWE ones have hundreds.
    Sad isn't it? :lol: