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He never did that.
You have no idea why he would do anything anyway, certainly not the reason behind something he didn’t even do.
Always funny when people on here hop on their high horse about attitude and entitlements and abuse players based off of stories they’ve completely fabricated in their own imagination.
Or maybe it's you who wants to protect these younger players at all costs, even if their behavior is abhorrent. You're conflating criticism with "abuse". For way too long we have allowed this kind of toxic mentality to prevail among our younger players.He never did that.
You have no idea why he would do anything anyway, certainly not the reason behind something he didn’t even do.
Always funny when people on here hop on their high horse about attitude and entitlements and abuse players based off of stories they’ve completely fabricated in their own imagination.
He was certainly among the best players in the EPL in 23/24, there's no doubt about it.He was never the best player in the pl.
Or maybe it's you who wants to protect these younger players at all costs, even if their behavior is abhorrent. You're conflating criticism with "abuse". For way too long we have allowed this kind of toxic mentality to prevail among our younger players.He never did that.
You have no idea why he would do anything anyway, certainly not the reason behind something he didn’t even do.
Always funny when people on here hop on their high horse about attitude and entitlements and abuse players based off of stories they’ve completely fabricated in their own imagination.
He was certainly among the best players in the EPL in 23/24, there's no doubt about it.He was never the best player in the pl.
The downfall of Man Utd happened where bang average players have huge egos and think that they are the next coming of Ronaldo.Whats happened to these young players. They are so entitled. its not that long ago . they would have been polishing a senior players boots after making him tea/coffee then heading off to sweep the concourses around the stadium.
Apparently I was making things up and just wanted to abuse younger players, according to him .What other explanation do you you think there might be for deleting his club affiliation (if that’s what he has done)?
I can only think that he’s angry at the club for the reasons proffered above, or that there was an under-the-radar move that he thought was happening, and that got cancelled at the last minute.
Greenwood was similar to Obi in that he didn't look ready either. You're conflating his first appearances with when he really came on strong that next season during lockdown.Young players have to grab their chance when they have it. Obi had quite a few chances and a lot of minutes but didn't really do anything with that time. If you look at the young players that truly broke through (Rashford, Januzaj, Greenwood, Mainoo etc.) it was clear as day that they would have a place in the first team from very early on. Obi hasn't looked like that. He has looked like a player who is not ready.
So no comment on him never doing what you claimed and ranted about?Or maybe it's you who wants to protect these younger players at all costs, even if their behavior is abhorrent. You're conflating criticism with "abuse". For way too long we have allowed this kind of toxic mentality to prevail among our younger players.
It needs to stop and that's why Garnacho was offloaded to Chelsea. Younger players should be more humble and not have the egos of the superstars.
He was certainly among the best players in the EPL in 23/24, there's no doubt about it.
I disagree. The first season you refer to he made only a couple of appearances both from the bench. Not enough to establish anything.Greenwood was similar to Obi in that he didn't look ready either. You're conflating his first appearances with when he really came on strong that next season during lockdown.
How so?We're overanalysing a teenager now. Football fans have become so weird.
The poster is trying to say the story is a lie. Chido Obi still has all his United pics on his page, like the poster said you guys make things in your mind or believe anything on the internet and get mad at it so you can bash our players.What other explanation do you you think there might be for deleting his club affiliation (if that’s what he has done)?
I can only think that he’s angry at the club for the reasons proffered above, or that there was an under-the-radar move that he thought was happening, and that got cancelled at the last minute.
Is everything ok? you are going on and on about something Chido didn't even do, goddamn.Or maybe it's you who wants to protect these younger players at all costs, even if their behavior is abhorrent. You're conflating criticism with "abuse". For way too long we have allowed this kind of toxic mentality to prevail among our younger players.
It needs to stop and that's why Garnacho was offloaded to Chelsea. Younger players should be more humble and not have the egos of the superstars.
He was certainly among the best players in the EPL in 23/24, there's no doubt about it.
A bit different with Mainoo as he was just looking for a short-term move away to gain match experience to be in contention for the WC. Nothing about him deserving to play or wanting a permanent move elsewhere. It's also a bit understandable as he went from a bonafide starter for club and country to hardly getting a look in under new managers and new systems.Garnacho and Mainoo in nutshell.
The Fans are even worse. They think that every product of Utd academy is a regen of the class of 92. For example, they all got mad at Amorim because Mainoo didn't play a lot of minutes but they ignore the fact that someone like Foden got benched by Pep this whole time.
Foden was the best player in the EPL just a year ago btw. He's also a product of City's academy and a 5 time EPL champion.
Have you even seen the tweet of Steve Railston? I made a small mistake where I said that he deleted his Utd posts instead of removing his Utd bio from Instagram. Still, my point was completely legitimate. You want to be a contrarian or something or have a "gotcha" moment.So no comment on him never doing what you claimed and ranted about?
The toxicity is quite ironic.
The other poster claimed he deleted all United pictures which he didn’t so there isn’t any explanation for something that didn’t happen.What other explanation do you you think there might be for deleting his club affiliation (if that’s what he has done)?
I can only think that he’s angry at the club for the reasons proffered above, or that there was an under-the-radar move that he thought was happening, and that got cancelled at the last minute.
Your point was shit and just an excuse to go on some arrogant toxic rant that you hate so much.Have you even seen the tweet of Steve Railston? I made a small mistake where I said that he deleted his Utd posts instead of removing his Utd bio from Instagram. Still, my point was completely legitimate. You want to be a contrarian or something or have a "gotcha" moment.
I think he got the traits for a very good finisher already. And it's not unusual for tall, lanky players to look a bit clumsy during their growth - he still has a possible couple of years of growth still. Also it takes some time for those type of players to adapt to the higher level. Hope he got a good head on him because being 3rd striker already at United at the age of 17 should be enough encouragement to be patient and work hard.I am going to go there with him....he is not it. Probably looked good and scored a lot of goals in the under's due to his massive size advantage. Otherwise, I have seen nothing in his game that suggests a future top striker.
I disagree. The first season you refer to he made only a couple of appearances both from the bench. Not enough to establish anything.
Following season you refer to he started scoring very early on and you could see already that he had something (two footed, and crazy powerful shooting).
Obi has had a lot more than two bench appearances so far and several starts already. In those appearances he has looked very raw and not shown anything at this level to show he is ready to be a starter.
How so?
Greenwood made 2 appearances from the bench in the last 10 minutes and then got picked for the last game of the season along with other youth.Greenwood played 119 minutes in 4 appearances, Obi played 161 minutes in 7 appearances (including only 1 start not several). So, yeah, you're wrong.
Greenwood made 2 appearances from the bench in the last 10 minutes and then got picked for the last game of the season along with other youth.
7 is a bigger number than 2 so only thing I am perhaps wrong about is the starts. Either way there is not a United fan who saw Greenwood or Rashford or Januzaj that wasn't extremely excited about their potential and could see it. Hell even James Wilson did more in the little game time he had before it went to his head. The most we can complement Obi on so far is his movement, but everything else about his game needs a lot of work.
This is not saying he isn't going to make it, but right now it is just potential and if he is already throwing his toys out the pram at his age then there are signs he won't have the right attitude to begin with.
Isn't the supposed issue his own impatience ?
Greenwood made 2 appearances from the bench in the last 10 minutes and then got picked for the last game of the season along with other youth.
7 is a bigger number than 2 so only thing I am perhaps wrong about is the starts. Either way there is not a United fan who saw Greenwood or Rashford or Januzaj that wasn't extremely excited about their potential and could see it. Hell even James Wilson did more in the little game time he had before it went to his head. The most we can complement Obi on so far is his movement, but everything else about his game needs a lot of work.
This is not saying he isn't going to make it, but right now it is just potential and if he is already throwing his toys out the pram at his age then there are signs he won't have the right attitude to begin with.
Greenwoods Physique really developed over the summer too, to be honest.I disagree. The first season you refer to he made only a couple of appearances both from the bench. Not enough to establish anything.
Following season you refer to he started scoring very early on and you could see already that he had something (two footed, and crazy powerful shooting).
Obi has had a lot more than two bench appearances so far and several starts already. In those appearances he has looked very raw and not shown anything at this level to show he is ready to be a starter.
Where did i say that I "hated" him? I just said that our younger players have serious problems with their attitude which is objectively true. Chido is only 17 and he shouldn't be doing this kind of stuff at his age. It's the culture within Man Utd that's the problem and not Chido himself. But it allows Garnachos and Mainoos of this world to display that kind of toxic behavior without any consequences.Your point was shit and just an excuse to go on some arrogant toxic rant that you hate so much.
There's no way that Greenwood is in the same category as Januzaj. He literally scored the same amount of goals in Ligue 1 last season as the Ballon d'or contender Dembele.Given what happened with Greenwood, how it ended with Januzaj and Rashford, where even is James Wilson, maybe this isn't a bad thing? Post 2013, we've had a lot of young players that have had promising starts but failed to make the step up.
As I've said on this thread already, he's 17. He's gonna make mistakes. He's clearly not the finished product yet but let's give him time.
Young players develop at different rates. Hopefully with this kid, we'll see the end result of wider positive changes to the club's culture/structure etc.
There's no way that Greenwood is in the same category as Januzaj. He literally scored the same amount of goals in Ligue 1 last season as the Ballon d'or contender Dembele.
Were it not for the certain "incident" and ruined reputation of Greenwood, we wouldn't even sell him in the first place.
There is no doubt he isn’t the finished article and he is only 17 and we really shouldn’t expect much from him at this point.Given what happened with Greenwood, how it ended with Januzaj and Rashford, where even is James Wilson, maybe this isn't a bad thing? Post 2013, we've had a lot of young players that have had promising starts but failed to make the step up.
As I've said on this thread already, he's 17. He's gonna make mistakes. He's clearly not the finished product yet but let's give him time.
Young players develop at different rates. Hopefully with this kid, we'll see the end result of wider positive changes to the club's culture/structure etc.
Where did I say he made only 2? I said he made 2 from the bench not total.Greenwood made 4 appearances, not 2. He played 42 minutes less than Obi overall. That is not significant.
I'm not even bothered about comparisons between the two. Totally different players, different physiques, skill sets, development, style of play coming through years apart in teams that are completely different.
I'm just correcting your factually incorrect assertions that Obi has had numerous starts (he hasn't) and played considerably more than Greenwood did in their first seasons (he didn't). I'm interested in peoples different opinions on Obi's potential and future development, including yours, but theres no need to twist facts in order to justify your point. You may have a good point that can stand on its own merit.
My 2 cents is they both played a small number of minutes, and both looked like they weren't yet ready for adult football, which is completely expected for 99.99% of 17 year olds. There is no significant conclusions to be drawn about Obi from their first 100 or so minutes of adult football, just as there wasn't any significant conclusions to be made from Greenwood's first 100 or so minutes. But from youth football, it was clear Greenwood was a top tier talent. Obi is a beastly goalscorer but much more one dimensional and stands out at youth level because of his physique. It's yet to be seen if he can transfer that into the adult game and, if so, at what level. There's a demand at every level for a physically dominant striker who can score bag loads of goals, so his skill set is desirable. That type of striker generally makes an impact in adult football a bit later than nimble dribblers/wide forward types.
He didn't remove United from his bio ?
