He's nowhere near PL ready, but some higher-level game time on loan makes a lot of sense
Chido Obi
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He's nowhere near PL ready, but some higher-level game time on loan makes a lot of sense
It could be a very good loan for all parties involved
Can he play on the left?
Yeah, he needs to be forged in the fire of men’s football now, at a manageable level that still allows for development. Dutch league would be perfect.
If Ueda really is gone then Obi might be able to compete to start for Feyenoord. Their back up strikers arent very good. Obi could be competing against RvP his kid for a starting spot
As usual, United have no plan for their youth prospects. Anyway, Obi won't be at United much longer.
We should be developing him towards a 20m+ sale through loans in markets where he can make a name for himself
Yeah United have no clue about youth development at all
I’d have preferred a championship loan for him.
One thing he needs to work on primarily is his strength - feel the championship would be perfect for that development
One thing he needs to work on primarily is his strength - feel the championship would be perfect for that development
I don't see any Championship side taking him loan to give him the games he needs. would most likely just be back-up.
Dutch League to Championship might be better for his development.
Preston were in for him earlier in the window and they were desperate for a striker.
He would’ve got significant game time there
Seems like a done deal.
Makes the above posts about not having a plan for him quite clueless but it is what it is.
We should be developing him towards being a member of our first team
Seems a good move. From their fan comments they expect him to come straight in and start.
Either is good. This loan will hopefully get him plenty of minutes in an easier league. Hopefully he stays injury free and gets lots of chances to impress
The first aim of developing youth players is to get them to the first team, of course that's not always going to happen but thata should be the priority,not developing them with the aim of gettying 20m+ for them, I agree this is a good loan for him, he needs to play at a higher level than the U21's and get games rather than being a bench option at a Championship club
Willem II are absolute star makers within the Dutch competition. People don’t know, but Frenkie de Jong and Virgil van Dijk were formed there and players like Alexander Isak, Sami Hyppia, Moussa Dembele, Jaap Stam and Marc Overmars all played there. Would love to see Chido Obi join the long list of stars that played for the Tricolores!
Does a deadline day loan really show a huge plan? Not sure how that makes any criticism clueless when he’s sat around for the past month doing nothing.
Willem II have already played nearly 10% of their league matches. It could easily take a match or two to be eased in too and suddenly he’s missed a good chunk of the season. Is that a sign of a good plan? Why wasn’t a loan sorted when he dropped out of the first team pre-season over a month ago?
There is also the fact they have their own young striker who has scored 2 in 3 so far this season and scored 19 last season. Is he just suddenly getting dropped to the bench for the entire season?
Random loans on deadline day which have historically been a mixed bag at best for us, makes posts about a lack of planning completely viable.
Such a dramatic way to look at it
Take those off and take another 3 to ease in and he'll still have 28 games to play in the league alone. That's good.He'll likely play alongside Haen, they all expect him to start.
https://www.tilbo.com/willem-ii-denkt-aan-talentvolle-spits-manchester-united/#comment-362639
I have my doubts as to whether he will be good enough. But, if he does happy days. If not we should be looking at pushing 20m for him
I suspect that he would have stayed if Zirkzee had gone
A bit of a non argument for me really, that he already missed nearly 10% of Willem 2's league matches. If we would have loaned him out to a championship team now then most teams have played the same percentage of their league games.
If your scenario happens, than there will be 28 league matches plus cup matches for Obi to play at Willem 2. That's plenty for a talented 18 year old player taking his first steps at mens football.
Planning during a transfer window for me means dealing with a whole lot of variables. What if we did manage to offload Zirkzee for a decent price? It would make sense that we would have liked to keep Obi onboard rather than buying an other striker with money we don't really seem to have. Zirkzee ultimately stayed so we managed to give Obi a very decent place to develop on very short notice.
I have been asking why we do not send young players to the Eredivisie more often as it is a great place to develop for many players, so I am exited to see how Obi will do this season.
There was a time when we sent the likes of O’Shea to Belgium for a years development
I very much doubt that as they sold Osmajic and brought in three strikers.
Oh no, they have already 3 out of 34 matches. How will he even gametime there?
It’s his first loan move ever, there’s this scenario of him looking at possible avenues before making a final call. Clubs also present an option to players where they’d like to play on loan.
Loan no buying option
It isn’t dramatic at all. The question is about planning. Missing 10-20% of the season is a sign of bad planning. It certainly isn’t the sign of a good plan like KM is claiming. Mickson is completely right to question our history of deadline day loans.Such a dramatic way to look at it
He'll likely play alongside Haen, they all expect him to start.
https://www.tilbo.com/willem-ii-denkt-aan-talentvolle-spits-manchester-united/#comment-362639
I find that highly doubtful. He hasn’t been involved with the u21s and was dropped from the first team training over a month ago. He has had no part in the first team at all. If it was like Amass then he’d have been training with them but he hasn’t.
So how does it show planning? Why wasn’t he loaned earlier? It’s his first loan move ever, sounds like a good plan would be to loan him early and allow him to settle in. Not wait until deadline day. Or no you think the club had this all planned out but it was Chido himself who chose to play no games for the past month?
Good luck to the lad! I thought his game really developed last season.
you’re wound up by this for whatever reason so I’m gonna type it again so that you can read it calmly.
For something which is as crucial as this it is to his development, it’s better to wait to see if there’s a better option later rather than moving in too early. I think even Chelsea who are amongst the best in Europe in finding loan moves only confirmed the move away for Mhueka to Celtic on loan yesterday only and Mhueka is one of their biggest talents.
Just because the deal got done today doesn’t mean there wasn’t a plan for him.
Yeah go on, keep being cocky. What's the plan for Amass, Leon, Obi etc? Please tell me how good United are in that department. And then we can talk about the loans to the League Two clubs late in the window and Championship clubs in Scotland. I would love to take i discussion with you!