Any chance you could reject Caicedo for 25M, we would really appreciate it!
Christopher Nkunku | AC Milan agree £36m deal
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I mean if you have no nuance in the argument then what's the point?
UEFA basically told Chelsea to sell some guys. I'm sure they'd like to keep Madueke and they look worse whenever he doesn't play but he'll be sold due to FFP issues. He's close to a move to Arsenal now so we can see how it works out. 50M EUR is a great fee to pay for him.
My advice is don't worry about the narratives in football - they change every five mins. Have some understanding of how your team should play, a clear picture of what each position looks like and then execute that vision for appropriate prices. Madueke for 65M pounds would be insane. 50M EUR much less so.
Same with Nkunku -- loans are totally fine given his injury record, maybe even an obligation to buy depending on our league position and his minutes or whatever. I don't think he particularly fits anywhere (right #10 or CF that runs the channels) so it's all a moot point anyway.
Jackson is the ultimate transition player. If you believe Gyokeres or Delap is the right type of player for us then Jackson would do just fine as the backup. Again, numbers matter.
There was a time when big clubs would constantly poach talent from the smaller clubs from the same league. There were two advantages for that. First of all they were getting league proven players. However the second and, in my opinion, the most important reason was that by doing so they were strengthen themselves while weakening the opposition. We seem to have fount the reverse strategy of that. We're signing cast offs Chelsea want to get rid off. Often these players do not fit the system or they are injury prone
I don't mind if we sign a young player or two on the cheap. Chelsea by those by the dozen and they have no clue what to do with them next. However they can stick Nkunku were the sun doesn't shine. We already did them a massive favor taking Mount for serious money.
Times have changed, the little clubs no longer need the money the way they once did. Selling their best players can cost them 100m in relegation if they are not careful. It used to if Utd came calling we’d get our man without any fuss, now the smaller clubs are naming their price. We do not weaken them they just go buy 3 players.
Didn’t he get a serious injury almost immediately once the signing was confirmed?
I agree but I used that argument as a springboard to the main argument ie that United seem to have found a way to help Chelsea reach their success by buying their rubbish for good money
Yeah I can’t disagree with this being doing it for 10 years without a single success story.
Mount, Mata, Matic and no one has set the world alight. Maybe if we try to sign players from a different letter of the Alphabet
Was just coming here to post the same. It’s great getting EPL proven players and weakening our rivals (Cunha, Mbuemo)…
But I’d hate to sign effectively a Chelsea reject whilst enabling them to comply with psr/funding their own summer activity
Although it just feels like a nonsense media story to me. Can’t see this one happening at all
Yeah he did, but get away from here with those facts.
If we wanna help Chelsea with PSR let's get Lesley Ugochukwu. At least a tall, league proven no.6 who's only 21 years old.
Yeah he got hurt right after signing and missed 5-6 weeks, but then came back and played the last month of the season at a high level. Then after moving to Chelsea in the summer he got injured by arguably the worst pitch in America in the last match of our preseason after starting very strongly.
Bayern have been linked him for ages now. They've never made a move though. I feel like Nkunku might be player that moves on deadline day to some desperate team that failed to get their top targets.
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He fits inter's system, he has been linked before and inter are currently failing to get Lookman.
Would much rather sell to Bayern than Inter. They're more likely to pay a decent fee without haggling too much than Inter.
This one seems to be gathering momentum.
Now Milan are involved. Fee around 30m or so.
They're so good they even have Italian clubs paying them a reasonable fee. Unbelievable.
They paid €60m for him. So one of the rare transfers they’ve made a loss on.
You can take a loss on a player if this is how the rest of your summer sells was like..
Taking a loss on him, yes, but £36m for someone who has been injured for the majority of his time here and subpar for the rest of it is great business.
I’m actually shocked we managed to get an Italian club to pay this much for him.
I’m actually shocked we managed to get an Italian club to pay this much for him.
He’s barely played at all, injury prone and no spring chicken. Still get a fee they’ll be happy with 
He will be great for Milan and Italian league. Milan has a good deal in my opinion.
I genuinely think it's mental Milan have agreed to pay that, but fair play I guess
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He’ll do very well in Serie A, I think. Not as intense as the PL and not as physically demanding. Like Pulisic and RLC who have flourished there he will as well.
We saw in the Conference League that against weak opposition with less intensity he can score a bunch. That’s what I see happening here.
If he's fit though, which is the biggest issue
The Milan lab will get him fixed
I would love to know what sort of shit Chelsea are up to behind the scenes to orchestrate these type of deals.
I don't know why we spent so much money for him.
3 days to the end of transfer market, unwanted player, contract until 2029, £200k a-week.. Chelsea had NO leverage and we surely could offer a loan + option to buy as Bayern are doing for Nicolas Jackson.
Not good from us imho, maybe we felt somehow guilty EPL teams highly overpaid for Thiaw, Okafor and Chukwueze and so we decided give back some of the money earned..
3 days to the end of transfer market, unwanted player, contract until 2029, £200k a-week.. Chelsea had NO leverage and we surely could offer a loan + option to buy as Bayern are doing for Nicolas Jackson.
Not good from us imho, maybe we felt somehow guilty EPL teams highly overpaid for Thiaw, Okafor and Chukwueze and so we decided give back some of the money earned..
Flourished is a bit of an overstatement. Especially for RLC.
They can’t keep getting away with it!
If a player is open to move, and doesn't insist on one specific club, this is possible.
He’s also not a talent you can sell on for a big fee, he’s an injury prone soon to be 28yo with a big salary. Really odd deal.
AC Milan refused to insert an obligation for Hojlund and only agreed to get Boniface on loan before he failed his medical. Somehow, they are now ok to buy a sick note like Nkunku for 42m.
Similar to what happened under Abramovich, most of their deals will ultimately be revealed as very dodgy.
Similar to what happened under Abramovich, most of their deals will ultimately be revealed as very dodgy.
That's actually a steal for Milan. Can't imagine how mad Eberl must be that the Bayern old guard forbade him to buy any player if the Coman money would have bought Nkunku.
Yeah call me crazy but I just can't see the sense in this deal from Milan's side, I don't get it at all. Chelsea had no leverage whatsoever, the guys on massive wages and has been injured since he got there.
Were he a United player we'd be looking at a loan with subsidised wages and a £20m option which would never be triggered, at best.
Really weird.
Getting away with what? Having good negotiators?