Underperformed his XG while playing in the conference league. That isn’t a good sign.
Christopher Nkunku
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Nik (@Rood), Jamie (@Vault Dweller) and Ed (@That'sHernandez) give their end of season awards out! They celebrate the best players, goals and moments of the season (there were some, honestly) and also give out awards for the worst and most disappointing players/moments of the season.
They then discuss all the latest transfer rumours and get into the potential ins and outs this summer at Old Trafford.
Think those updated stats were PL only, in fairness
Said it in anothet thread, but I think Jackson would be a decent option. Not sure if they will sell, but it would be typical Chelsea. Anyway, great underlying stats two seasons in a row. 24 years old. Great physique. Relentless pressing.
Nkunku would, regardless of price, be horrible.
Nkunku would, regardless of price, be horrible.
His fall from his performance heights is scary.
Nah he’s just terrible. The sort of striker that misses 4 open nets gets a red card then scores in his 5th game after going 4 without a goal
He’s been comically bad almost every time I’ve seen him and since this is the Nkunku thread we should be going nowhere near him either
Couldn't agree more, you don't have to watch Jackson for very long to see he's not up to the grade.
Chelsea have alot of average players they'll be wanting to shift, and no way we should be helping them out with any of them.
He has so few minutes that you can't really do this kind of comparison. In 23/24 for example he had less than 5 sets of 90 minutes, so each individual GA represents a whopping 0.20. When you're dealing with a range where the difference between top and bottom is little more than that, it makes the result untrustworthy. One more GA, he's at the very top of that list, one fewer GA he's at the very bottom. This is why you'd normally have a minimum game cut off when doing this kind of comparison.
Jackson is shite!
I think all 3 - Madueke, Jackson and Nkunku will be good at the right price. Nkunku has to be a loan because injury risk but the other two we can pay money for.
Remember how high people were rating him and thinking Chelsea are getting a good deal before he signed for them? Never trust the caf’s opinion on players.
To be fair he was sensational in Germany. Injuries have had a major impact on him in England
why should we keep financing Chelsea's run by buying their rejects?
Sancho was sensational in Germany and proved to be decidedly underwhelming in the premier league. Don’t need another!
Kagawa and Mkhitaryan as well for us. Werner for Chelsea. Probably a few more high profile ones to throw in there
Football moves in cycles, but at the moment, the Premier League is miles ahead of any other major league, especially in terms of strength in depth down the league. Physically it’s really tough; you need to be a brilliant athlete as well technically sound. Seen a lot of players recently, Sancho and Antony being good examples, that just haven’t got the pace or strength required.
It’s why I’m on board with signing proven premier league players as we’ve had way too many recent signings not be able to hack it, and I don’t want us taking punts on players that give off the “can’t hack it vibes” either. Let Nkunku go back to Germany or wherever.
Not into Jackson at all, he misses so many easy chances from what I've seen of him...we've already had players doing exactly that and it has really hurt us, often changing the momentum of the game.
We are not near good enough just now to present someone like Jackson with 4 or 5 chances in a game to get a goal, would be too big a gamble despite some of his better attributes.
Our best players (Bruno, Amad, Yoro, De Ligt, Maz, etc.) were not Premier league proven. In the end it's about good scouting.
This guy would be a disaster signing for us. He’s absolutely rubbish. We need a ST that’s going to scare the shit out of defenders. Last season Hojlund look like a puppy up against many teams. We need to fix that.
The biggest issue with our attackers is the lack of chances they get. While Hojlund is at 0,2 npxg per 90 min, Jackson is at 0,50 and 0,6 in the PL the last two seasons. He had similar numbers in La Liga.
No to Nkunku and no to Jackson. Thank you
Looked quality in Germany and initially at Chelsea. I think the combination of injuries and the manager not fancying him basically meant he couldn’t be arsed this season - which isn’t a great thing mentality wise.
Still for the right price or on a loan, he wouldn’t be a bad option, could slot into the 9 or 10 roles and do a job. If he recovered his form and fitness could be a bargain for someone.
Still for the right price or on a loan, he wouldn’t be a bad option, could slot into the 9 or 10 roles and do a job. If he recovered his form and fitness could be a bargain for someone.
Sancho.
Mentioned him weeks ago when someone was asking about Mbeumo alternatives should we not get that through, but even then I was thinking a loan move as a rotation option.
Would rather start Amad as one of the 10s and that's surely Nkunku's best position, and if we do get Mbeumo then I don't really see the point in going for Nkunku even on loan with no Europe. Not going to need a huge squad next season.
Would rather start Amad as one of the 10s and that's surely Nkunku's best position, and if we do get Mbeumo then I don't really see the point in going for Nkunku even on loan with no Europe. Not going to need a huge squad next season.
De Bruyne?
There were a handful of pre-season games where he and Jackson were great together, then was absolutely devastated by injury.
It's strange to think about bit if he had not suffered that injury, we wouldn't have signed Cole Palmer
Sure, but it's not a major argument to base your point on. There are more failures than successes from Germany to England.
That's very debatable. Point being it's hard to judge based on individual transfers
Always a gamble signing from abroad, but if he’s shown himself not up to it at one premier league club, no reason to suggest he’d be up to it at another.
Could see him at Bayern now Musiala is knacked for the season.
Yep, fair point and good shout
Kagawa, Mkhitaryan, Werner and Havertz of the top of my head. Anyways, do not want Nkunku, specially after his injury and last season for Chelsea. Stinks of Mount all over again.
Yeah avoid him at all costs
Hm, I dunno - each deal is independent. The more philosophical thing (are we financing Chelsea), I don't really have an answer but also don't think every signing from Chelsea is poor value or destined to be a flop. Their recruitment philosophy under Clearlake has been a bit random so I think there's some value to be had if we knew what we were doing.
I'd trust Arsenal to make the right call for example if they went for Madueke.
Loan for a season, Chelsea paying 50% of his wages, no loan fee, obligation to buy with 1M get out clause.
Deal!
*If only other clubs were as stupid as United in the transfer market.
Deal!
*If only other clubs were as stupid as United in the transfer market.
Sad how his transfer has gone down at Chelsea, looked so good at RB but, injures aside, he also looked like a very system oriented player since the position he played was only suited to a 2 up front system and he wasn't going to fit in as a pure 9 or behind a striker.
Very similar to how Cunha plays. Would be perfect for our 3-4-3 system but, with Cunha already here and his injury record, it will be a risk.
Very similar to how Cunha plays. Would be perfect for our 3-4-3 system but, with Cunha already here and his injury record, it will be a risk.
So you’re telling me there’s hope that Wirtz turns into a bust as well? Yes!
We gotta be nkookoo to even consider this guy. Unless we are trying to start a hospital ward team. FC Crocked.
I think we need guaranteed quality in attack and the ability to make impactful changes in games. If there was anyway to get a loan done, even at a fee with a future buy clause, I think we should do it.
There is a real player in there and it would be worth the punt at only 27 years old.
There is a real player in there and it would be worth the punt at only 27 years old.
Because we really appreciate it!
Stocking up on Chelsea's castoffs? We could see what Sterling is up to while we're at it.