Good. They can go play in the MLS. They won't be missed.
City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with 130 FFP breaches | Hearing begins 16th Sep 2024 | Concluded 9th Dec 2024 - Awaiting outcome
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Ironically they'd likely get barred given they already own a team there, maybe Scottish prem will take them.
True, but they own Girona, Lommel, Palermo and ESTAC which are all European teams so it could have a knock on effect.
I didn't realise the Champions League was a British competition
It isn't.
But, you cannot seriously expect the European Commission to have any authority to investigate or punish a company based in the UK or wherever the City Football Group is based if it's outside of the EU.
True, so then they target those, as far as I'm aware they really can't do much about Man City.
I guess you should've told La Liga authorities
Absolutely, City Group are registered in the UK but if they cook the books for their European teams like they have city they could be prosecuted for committing crimes in the country were the crime took place. It would have nowt to do with Man City just the City Group.
It would be glorious to see
In Spain they just get court orders to destroy all the evidence.
Maybe City should do that.
When has Tebas been successful with anything?
Man shouts at cloud comes to mind. They’re going to get away with everything.
Man shouts at cloud comes to mind. They’re going to get away with everything.
Yeah, it's a long time since I looked at EU Law or anything to do with the European Commission. It's 3/4 years now since the UK left the EU, so I'd also imagine that any cross over period is gone. Unless there was some sort of deadline and proceedings started before the deadline could continue.
It would be my understanding that they could only target and sanction the clubs based and operating within the EU.
so the LaLiga chief reported them to the EU for basically money laundering thru shell companies
Well, yeah - it's an Enron-ish scenario. Generating false profits, basically. Like, duh.
Everyone and his granny has known this for years (and only extremely stupid City fans have ever denied it in good faith).
It doesn't hurt that Tebas states the obvious, but who knows what difference it will make.
I have zero faith in the football authorities (anywhere, in any country, at any level). They're corrupt as feck, all of 'em (including the la Liga authorities).
So - basically, corrupt fecker calling another corrupt fecker...corrupt (for their own purposes). But sure, I'll take it - better than nothing.
Everyone and his granny has known this for years (and only extremely stupid City fans have ever denied it in good faith).
It doesn't hurt that Tebas states the obvious, but who knows what difference it will make.
I have zero faith in the football authorities (anywhere, in any country, at any level). They're corrupt as feck, all of 'em (including the la Liga authorities).
So - basically, corrupt fecker calling another corrupt fecker...corrupt (for their own purposes). But sure, I'll take it - better than nothing.
A lot of rumours saying we'll here about the verdict early next week. They'll have to announce something soon, it's been too long.
That's been my prediction for a while. Start of an international break
I think it’s obvious that what we all want is a punishment that sends them back to the dark ages and means they can use none of the advantages they have manufactured to bounce back.
I think the chances of that happening are virtually zero.
I think the punishment will be strong but the reality is that the advantage they have manufactured will see them bounce back within a short time frame and it’ll be like nothing happened. A season or two in the wilderness at best.
I think the chances of that happening are virtually zero.
I think the punishment will be strong but the reality is that the advantage they have manufactured will see them bounce back within a short time frame and it’ll be like nothing happened. A season or two in the wilderness at best.
Been a bit too quiet for my liking.
The ETA was always March/April, right?
Social media rumours that an announcement is imminent. More than likely bullshit but would be another nice start to a new week if they are correctly punished.
Seems to have originated here, and there are some reputable people following.
Wasnt there a rumour doing the round that they were going to get a 40 point deduction?
I cant recall where I seen that though!
I cant recall where I seen that though!
10 point deduction, £10m fine and a sternly worded letter
You used rollerskates to win those marathons? Naughty naughty.
No we will let you have those 1st place finishes but for the next one you have to start a little bit further back. You can still wear the rollerskates, yes.
No we will let you have those 1st place finishes but for the next one you have to start a little bit further back. You can still wear the rollerskates, yes.
I’m expecting something along these lines. Reckon it’ll be a nothing punishment if they get one.
Record points deduction. Record fine. Nothing that will amount to any long term damage.
Points deduction will probably be taken this season but not relegate them or really hinder them for next season other than maybe no CL football.
It will be heralded by the media as ‘unprecedented’ and everyone will move on. city have learnt how to navigate it moving forward and ‘won’ their other court case so can now just sponsor themselves for as much money as they need
Points deduction will probably be taken this season but not relegate them or really hinder them for next season other than maybe no CL football.
It will be heralded by the media as ‘unprecedented’ and everyone will move on. city have learnt how to navigate it moving forward and ‘won’ their other court case so can now just sponsor themselves for as much money as they need
They'd still probably stay up if they got that.
This decision will likely only be the verdict, their punishment (if any) will be a separate process and might not even be done by the end of next season.
My thoughts exactly!
Yeah Richard Masters confirmed this recently.
feck me then we'll have to wait until the season after for the appeal, then the season after that for the appeal to the appeal... this whole process has been: -
Maybe. They could get a max points total of 35 with that if they win their last 9 games. Wolves are currently on 26 with 9 games left.
40 points would be a daft punishment anyway, either relegate them or don't. A proper punishment shouldn't be vastly diminished for playing well. It's like saying "you've cheated and that's part of the reason you've been winning games, so here's your punishment but if you keep on winning games we'll punish you less." Makes no sense.
They wouldn't need to catch Wolves. They'd just need to get 12 more points than Ipswich, Southampton and Leicester which is very doable given they've got a grand total of 7 points in 2025.
Oh yeah you're right. It would be a nothing punishment then.
This is how you punish rich and powerful people/countries. Punishments that appear serious but mean absolutely feck all in the context of their crimes/wealth.
"Oh no, £200m fine, thats a lot of money". Well, it might be if they hadn't made £500m buy being scummy cnuts. All of these things are just costs of doing business for these guys. If you ask the question "would you do it all again in hindsight" and the answer is yes then the punishment isn't remotely a deterrent.
i thought i read another 'expert' say recently that they expect both the verdict ie guilty or not guilty, and the punishment at the same time, as otherwise you have a scenario of verdict appealed before we even hear punishment, then another appeal after that appeal so you could feasibly drag it on for years. I could be wrong.
It seems absolutely impossible to deduct them enough points to relegate them without causing complete havoc over seasons, so my hope is that they get a enormous deduction of around 100 points, but spread out over 4-5 seasons. It would essentially mean no title for half a decade, and that surely would play a part in some players and managers decisions to go there over that time too.
Why would relegating them cause havoc? It just means one of bottom three survive and nothing else changes? Juventus got relegated and points docked when they cheated.
because if they can appeal it over a protracted period of time, what do you do while its pending? Lets say they get a 50 point deduction, imposed this season and it relegates them, but then they appeal. What do you do while that process rolls on and on on?
for the record, id love for them to be relegated
There’s no appeals process
I don't think they can appeal to CAS. According to Sky: