The noises and arguments coming from their side is encouraging to say the least.
City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with 130 FFP breaches | Hearing begins 16th Sep 2024 | Concluded 9th Dec 2024 - Awaiting outcome
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I would just love for Amorim or one of our players to come out and call them outright cheats. It would be glorious.
I wouldn‘t care about the fallout. Everyone would know they are right.
I wouldn‘t care about the fallout. Everyone would know they are right.
This complaint concerns a group of Premier League clubs—Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester United, and Tottenham Hotspur—acting as a cartel to maintain dominance in English football at the expense of fair competition.
Piss funny that
To be fair, I'm also pretty fed up of the Spurs domination.....
I think we all are.
I can imagine someone smirking and writing that, after pouring his 4th glass of cognac, thinking it would be fun to see the reaction when someone reads it.
Are they not more likely to apply a points deduction to next season? City will appeal absolutely every single little decision that goes against them, so this thing is going to take a long time to sort out.
I really hope so. Let them finish outside the CL this season, then hit them with a 114 point deduction the day before the new seasons begins. Just make them play a totally pointless season.
It's like that line in blackadder when he lists the 'great' English universities... Oxford, Cambridge and Hull....
I can hear General Melchett saying “Liverpools a complete dump”
Another season of this shite.
Why? FFS.
What possible reason could there be for this
If they’re going to be docked points, it’s better to happen next season anyway because it does feck all for us in this one.
That’s their worst case scenario anyway, they’re not going to be relegated or stripped of anything.
That’s their worst case scenario anyway, they’re not going to be relegated or stripped of anything.
Another summer of pumping money into the club then.
I really want to know why it takes over 6 months after the case has been fully reviewed to deliver a verdict.
Probably as they are negotiating on the punishments/ settlements between the PL and City. And/ or the PL are trying to get it as watertight as possible (in terms of wording) so that City can’t appeal any technicalities.
Trumps tariffs causing a global shortage of brown envelopes
Making sure that everyone who needs a brown envelope has got one.
They were hoping City would continue their shocking mid season meltdown and finish 20-25 points off the champions league places, so that they could label the 15-20 point deduction (and whatever £ fine) as the most severe punishment ever handed out in the top flight.
City wouldn't have been dumb enough to appeal it, and it'd have been over, although everyone would have known it was a white wash.
Instead, they're right amongst the champions league positions so any points deduction would see them miss out - they'd appeal it and it'd bore on.
It'll take so long to sort next year they'll probably say it'll start 2026/27.
It's astounding that a business operating under the rules of an organisation can have such incredible accusations made, not be suspended, and play them off for silly beggars refusing to supply the information requested.
It's not even worth drawing a parallel in any other industry as there isn't one.
City wouldn't have been dumb enough to appeal it, and it'd have been over, although everyone would have known it was a white wash.
Instead, they're right amongst the champions league positions so any points deduction would see them miss out - they'd appeal it and it'd bore on.
It'll take so long to sort next year they'll probably say it'll start 2026/27.
It's astounding that a business operating under the rules of an organisation can have such incredible accusations made, not be suspended, and play them off for silly beggars refusing to supply the information requested.
It's not even worth drawing a parallel in any other industry as there isn't one.
Yip. They'll spend another 400 million
PL is looking as weak as hell now.
The hold up is probably City dictating that their fine will be donated to charity, and which 'City football group' club thier 80 point deduction will go to.
The tail is clearly wagging the dog here.
The hold up is probably City dictating that their fine will be donated to charity, and which 'City football group' club thier 80 point deduction will go to.
The tail is clearly wagging the dog here.
That's football, it's run by corrupt dunderheads.
Still baffled as to just how weak and spineless the PL rules are with this crowd.
The fact that they've been allowed to continue to participate and win trophies while refusing to cooperate with the PL is just astonishing.
Should be a simple rule saying that if you refuse to cooperate, you don't play.
The fact that they've been allowed to continue to participate and win trophies while refusing to cooperate with the PL is just astonishing.
Should be a simple rule saying that if you refuse to cooperate, you don't play.
At this point, it’s becoming less and less attractive to be bothered about the Premier League.
The EPL had the chance to show that breaking the rules of fair competition was not acceptable.
I’m done with having any interest in the EPL as it’s obviously corrupt
The EPL had the chance to show that breaking the rules of fair competition was not acceptable.
I’m done with having any interest in the EPL as it’s obviously corrupt
It would normally take a lot longer to deliver a verdict on a 12 week trial, especially considering the amount of charges.
A quick trial and a quick verdict would have been bad news, in so much as it would have meant that the charges were easily dismissed and City didn't have a case to answer.
The fact it's taking longer likely means bad news for City.
So another PL season is going to be undermined or pointless. Making it what, 15 years of it? How can you possibly justify punishing them so late of they've already spent another 300m and qualified for CL.
It has become impossible to care at all about such a farcical league
It has become impossible to care at all about such a farcical league
We all know why.
I think it was always going to come out pre season and I also think that’s the best outcome starting a new campaign knowing exactly where they will stand
I think the verdict will come out some time after the Club World Cup and before the start of the new season so between July the 14th and 16th of August. If I had to guess Id say right in the middle so end of July.
I agree, the punishment could be like 80 points or something for the following season, which would be fun to see.
But also fecking weird and awkward. Obviously I'd not complain, but it would have such a strange impact on the season surely. I don't know why the PL would want that, but then it still feels like City are calling the shots.
Man City will not be punished. Because FFP is clearly illegal and City would appeal to a civil court asking for hundreds of millions in damages.
The Premier League knows this and continues to postpone the judgment.
The Premier League knows this and continues to postpone the judgment.
Interesting view from a Chelsea fan, thanks for sharing.
Oh ok thanks. Guess we'll close the thread.
If it was illegal then it wouldn't have even reached the trial stage and the charges would have been dismissed easily.
Everton and Forest have already been punished for failing FFP and multiple football league clubs have too.
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Send that in mate, seems like it's all something about nothing then.
A lot of people are talking about a one off points deduction. For me, this would fall way short of what is deserved. We are talking about sustained cheating over many years... if the punishment only affects them for one or two seasons it's a very small price to pay with great rewards for City.
The punishment has to be relative to the crime. We are taking about sustained cheating over years, the punishment should be such that you will stop other clubs including City from trying to do this again.
It needs to be a long term painful punishment, I am talking several seasons of deductions and transfer bans. If it is limited to only one or two seasons, they win.
For me it needs to be trophies taken away plus that, or nothing. What's the point in punishing them for the way they won those titles but still letting them keep them?
Newcastle would bite your hand off for 6 or 7 league titles in exchange for one or two seasons of docked points and transfer bans.
Johnnie Cochrane is back from the dead