City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with 130 FFP breaches | Hearing concluded | Awaiting outcome

Fortitude said:
Because it needs saying:

how many trophies have city won whilst awaiting charges?


Since being formally charged by the Premier League on 6 February 2023 with 115 alleged breaches of financial regulations, Manchester City have won 8 major senior trophies. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Because the independent commission's final verdict is still pending, the club has continued to compete normally and secure titles. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Trophies Won Since the Charges Were Brought [1]
The timeline of silverware secured while awaiting a final ruling includes:
  • Premier League (2 Titles): Sealed the 2022/23 crown and a history-making fourth consecutive title in the 2023/24 season.
  • UEFA Champions League (1 Title): Won their first-ever European Cup in June 2023 by defeating Inter Milan.
  • FA Cup (2 Titles): Won the June 2023 Manchester derby final at Wembley. Won the May 2026 final verses Chelsea.
  • UEFA Super Cup (1 Title): Defeated Sevilla on penalties in August 2023.
  • FIFA Club World Cup (1 Title): Won the tournament in December 2023 by beating Fluminense.
  • FA Community Shield (1 Title): Won the season curtain-raiser in August 2024. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Summary Table
The breakdown of their major trophy haul specifically during this legal limbo period consists of:

Competition [1, 2, 3, 4]Trophies Won Awaiting VerdictSeasons / Years
Premier League22022/23, 2023/24
UEFA Champions League12022/23
FA Cup22022/23, 2025/26
UEFA Super Cup12023
FIFA Club World Cup12023
FA Community Shield12024
Total Silverware82023–Present
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Ridiculous that
Games completely gone
 
Fortitude said:
Because it needs saying:

how many trophies have city won whilst awaiting charges?


Since being formally charged by the Premier League on 6 February 2023 with 115 alleged breaches of financial regulations, Manchester City have won 8 major senior trophies. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Because the independent commission's final verdict is still pending, the club has continued to compete normally and secure titles. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Trophies Won Since the Charges Were Brought [1]
The timeline of silverware secured while awaiting a final ruling includes:
  • Premier League (2 Titles): Sealed the 2022/23 crown and a history-making fourth consecutive title in the 2023/24 season.
  • UEFA Champions League (1 Title): Won their first-ever European Cup in June 2023 by defeating Inter Milan.
  • FA Cup (2 Titles): Won the June 2023 Manchester derby final at Wembley. Won the May 2026 final verses Chelsea.
  • UEFA Super Cup (1 Title): Defeated Sevilla on penalties in August 2023.
  • FIFA Club World Cup (1 Title): Won the tournament in December 2023 by beating Fluminense.
  • FA Community Shield (1 Title): Won the season curtain-raiser in August 2024. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Summary Table
The breakdown of their major trophy haul specifically during this legal limbo period consists of:

Competition [1, 2, 3, 4]Trophies Won Awaiting VerdictSeasons / Years
Premier League22022/23, 2023/24
UEFA Champions League12022/23
FA Cup22022/23, 2025/26
UEFA Super Cup12023
FIFA Club World Cup12023
FA Community Shield12024
Total Silverware82023–Present
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Why has the Charity Shield snuck into these conversations as a major trophy now?

I sincerely hope they are stripped of everything and hit with by far the biggest punishment in UK football history. Such empty, fake success. I was at the FA Cup Semi and, along with being half full, the City fans were SPRINTING to the station the second the final whistle went. I have never seen anything like it at Wembley. No cheering and celebrating the players that just got you to another final or celebrating the result. They don't deserve the success they have had, their fanbase is just a spoilt rich kid now.
 
Apokalips said:
Why has the Charity Shield snuck into these conversations as a major trophy now?

I sincerely hope they are stripped of everything and hit with by far the biggest punishment in UK football history. Such empty, fake success. I was at the FA Cup Semi and, along with being half full, the City fans were SPRINTING to the station the second the final whistle went. I have never seen anything like it at Wembley. No cheering and celebrating the players that just got you to another final or celebrating the result. They don't deserve the success they have had, their fanbase is just a spoilt rich kid now.
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Jose and Pep’s egos turned winning a charity shield into a thing. Jose was the first to do it, Pep continued the bs.
 
Fortitude said:
Because it needs saying:

how many trophies have city won whilst awaiting charges?


Since being formally charged by the Premier League on 6 February 2023 with 115 alleged breaches of financial regulations, Manchester City have won 8 major senior trophies. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Because the independent commission's final verdict is still pending, the club has continued to compete normally and secure titles. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Trophies Won Since the Charges Were Brought [1]
The timeline of silverware secured while awaiting a final ruling includes:
  • Premier League (2 Titles): Sealed the 2022/23 crown and a history-making fourth consecutive title in the 2023/24 season.
  • UEFA Champions League (1 Title): Won their first-ever European Cup in June 2023 by defeating Inter Milan.
  • FA Cup (2 Titles): Won the June 2023 Manchester derby final at Wembley. Won the May 2026 final verses Chelsea.
  • UEFA Super Cup (1 Title): Defeated Sevilla on penalties in August 2023.
  • FIFA Club World Cup (1 Title): Won the tournament in December 2023 by beating Fluminense.
  • FA Community Shield (1 Title): Won the season curtain-raiser in August 2024. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Summary Table
The breakdown of their major trophy haul specifically during this legal limbo period consists of:

Competition [1, 2, 3, 4]Trophies Won Awaiting VerdictSeasons / Years
Premier League22022/23, 2023/24
UEFA Champions League12022/23
FA Cup22022/23, 2025/26
UEFA Super Cup12023
FIFA Club World Cup12023
FA Community Shield12024
Total Silverware82023–Present
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And there's not an ounce of pressure on City for delaying the process, or the 'independent panel' to get the to the verdit either.

This is literally what the media is there for, to ask the right questions. But no, lets just kiss Pep's arse some more.
 
golden_blunder said:
What the hell? That’s so stupid and makes a mockery of any kind of rules. So because city have bags of money they just pay their way out of any trouble whereas a team like Brighton or burnley won’t be able to pay the same level of fines
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C'est Moi Cantona said:
And the money goes where?
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Chairman Steve said:
Oh great so you can openly bribe to get yourself out of trouble! Way to go, Premier League. A role model for integrity!
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calodo2003 said:
This is fecking preposterous.
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I’m hoping this applies to certain breaches and not a multi charge, multi breach case like City’s… but nothing surprises me with modern football.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
And there's not an ounce of pressure on City for delaying the process, or the 'independent panel' to get the to the verdit either.

This is literally what the media is there for, to ask the right questions. But no, lets just kiss Pep's arse some more.
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The media are being hushed and controlled by the powers that be. They are terrified of mentioning any wrongdoing at City. Wouldn't surprise me if they're having a few brown envelopes being thrown their way.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
And there's not an ounce of pressure on City for delaying the process, or the 'independent panel' to get the to the verdit either.
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I mean, it's the same independent panel that has said they've been unable to get much done because they've had trouble finding the time to meet up. It was a joke from the start. Wholesale corruption.
 
golden_blunder said:
What the hell? That’s so stupid and makes a mockery of any kind of rules. So because city have bags of money they just pay their way out of any trouble whereas a team like Brighton or burnley won’t be able to pay the same level of fines
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This only applies if the club admits charges , a settlement agreement like in case of chelsea recently would mean city admit to wrong doing . The settlement wont just be financial i assume . I think this will help PL settle cases quickly with teams that admit breaches as in parties settle between them rather than waiting for IC to settle and then have appeals to IC decision and so on .
 
You notice how since news of Pep leaving the charges are being mentioned again, am fairly certain City have an agreement that it’s settled after Pep goes.
 
Lincoln away ole ole.

They're getting done this summer aren't they, you can sense it.
 
Top_Bins said:
So they've posted a video to their youtube.
There's 25000 likes and 65 dislikes.
There are practically no derogatory comments and the only one
i could find was a new one from an Everton fan, calling him a cheat.
No mention of 115.

Plenty of fawning comments from supposed other clubs fans, including United.
It's being heavily moderated to keep any real feeling about the massive cheat out of the narrative.
Like some kind of dystopian propaganda.
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Posted this in the Pep thread.
Just wanted it noted that their sportswashing extends to controlling comments on youtube.
Can't have anyone post the truth on the leaving video can we?
 
eh I just wanted to raise it again in light of Pep resigning. Surely he knows something big is coming their way… but then I read that awful article shared above where the PL is considering basically just allowing clubs to pay a fine, and now I don’t know what to believe. … Other than City are an awful, awful club and this whole situation is further tainting the entire league.
 
If it doesn’t come out between the end of the season and start of the World Cup, something is really fecked with the process.
 
golden_blunder said:
What the hell? That’s so stupid and makes a mockery of any kind of rules. So because city have bags of money they just pay their way out of any trouble whereas a team like Brighton or burnley won’t be able to pay the same level of fines
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I don't disagree, but then the other clubs just shouldn't vote for it? Any club can put forward a proposal, it has to the pass a vote.
 
duffer said:
Why are you bumping this thread?
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Honestly, it should probably be pinned to the top of this board.

Not really in the mood to faux apologise for bumping this either (I realise you didn’t ask me to), this deserves as much attention as anything football related.
 
hellhunter said:
You'd think any big announcement, regardless of direction, might unsettle quite a few players, right? There's no real benefit to announcing it now or in 6 weeks when the world cup is over
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The earlier any punishments are dished out, the sooner everyone can deal with the fall out.

As for unsettling players, feck em.
 
caisenma said:
Honestly, it should probably be pinned to the top of this board.

Not really in the mood to faux apologise for bumping this either (I realise you didn’t ask me to), this deserves as much attention as anything football related.
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Nobody asked for an apology but bumping a thread is usually done when something has happened or there's an update.

Actually, you should apologize. To all the other posters, to the mods and most importantly, to me.
 
hellhunter said:
Surely they wouldn't want to jeopardise the World Cup by dropping this bomb right before the start
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If the judgement is ready, best to drop it soon after the PL season ends and prior to the World Cup in my opinion.

They may also be thinking about the transfer window, which opens around the same time as the WC starts. If City are getting some kind of punishment, players and agents need to know before the window opens.
 
Powderfinger said:
If the judgement is ready, best to drop it soon after the PL season ends and prior to the World Cup in my opinion.

They may also be thinking about the transfer window, which opens around the same time as the WC starts. If City are getting some kind of punishment, players and agents need to know before the window opens.
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Those are fair points. I wasn't advocating for them to delay the announcement, but I can see them doing it because of the World Cup. Didn't consider the opening of the transfer window though
 
caisenma said:
eh I just wanted to raise it again in light of Pep resigning. Surely he knows something big is coming their way… but then I read that awful article shared above where the PL is considering basically just allowing clubs to pay a fine, and now I don’t know what to believe. … Other than City are an awful, awful club and this whole situation is further tainting the entire league.
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Guardiola is staying on as some sort of advisor though isn't he?

It was pretty obvious last year that the 1 year with an option of 1 year was because he was leaving this summer.
 
duffer said:
He doesn't have to sit in front of a load of journalists multiple times a week in that role though.
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If he knew something bad was coming he would have walked away all together.

The most recent theory on the charges is that City flooded the trial with documents of evidence to prove their innocence which is why it's taken so long, why the Premier League are reluctant to release the verdict and why PSR has been scrapped and they've moved to the new squad cost ratio system.

I'm really not hopeful of any lasting action against City anymore.
 
Guardiola‘s dithering on leaving indicates that something is likely to happen soon. He was keeping his options open until the last minute.
 
If city drop off a bit with Pep gone then the need to punish them drops as well. The longer city dominates, the longer people are fed up and want them taken down a peg or 2. If they drop naturally, be more back in the leading pack rather than out on their own, the clamor for revenge drops.
 
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