Yeah the week after the world cup is more likely.
City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with 130 FFP breaches | Hearing concluded | Awaiting outcome
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Yeah the week after the world cup is more likely.
Can't see how the independent panel can take the WC in to account. If they're ready then the verdict will be out. It wouldn't surprise me it's settled between both sides, if there can be an appeal, which will take years longer and the punishment committee after that. I don't think years more waiting is viable for either side.
Doesn’t fill me with confidence when they’re about to drop another 100 million on Anderson.
Here is a link posted on 7th May to this thread by another contributor (MaMa Red). Half a million is mentioned in a section summarising the reasons the case has taken so long, which I have copied below. (See point 1). The half a million defence points has been commented upon in various articles in the Guardian and the Independent newspapers.
City are represented by Lord Pannick, the QC who defended Boris Johnson in the Partygate Affair. Dragging out the 115 Charges over a long period is his major tactic in defending City.
https://theesk.org/2026/04/30/the-a...ty-v-the-premier-league-the-115-charges-case/
The Analysis Series: Manchester City v The Premier League: The “115 Charges” case
By Paul Quinn on April 30, 2026 • ( 3 Comments )
Why Is It Taking So Long?
1. Volume. Approximately 129–130 distinct rule breaches; reportedly around 500,000 evidential items reviewed by the panel; financial statements spanning nine reporting years; multiple sponsors and counterparties.
2. Complexity. Each charge requires individual proof; many require proof of intent and obstruction (analogous to fraud), not merely numerical breach. ESPN’s analogy: “the difference between speeding and speeding while remotely manipulating the police officer’s radar gun.”
3. Bullet-proof reasons required. The panel must publish written reasons capable of withstanding appeal (and any High Court challenge to procedural rulings). It is sequencing a bifurcated process: a liability award first, then a separate sanctions phase if any charges are upheld, a model used in Everton’s PSR cases
4. Part-time arbitrators. The panel is composed of senior practitioners with full diaries of other commercial litigation work; no equivalent of a sequestered jury exists.
5. Confidentiality. Premier League Rule W.82 makes the proceedings private, and English law protections constrain disclosure, meaning even the panel’s identity has not been confirmed.
Bartondale quoted 500,000 documents in his earlier post.
Loudly confident
League is run by amateurs
It's been fairly obvious for a long time that nothing was going to happen. They've made the deals they needed to make.
I just hope some of the teams that have been punished go after the league, but it's unlikely.
Everton and Forest need to drag the PL to Court if these cnuts get away with it
If they get away with it then there's no hope for the game.
Absolute non story that. He's neither reasserted the hilarious idea that they're innocent nor suggested anything will be announced any time soon.
Had a quick read through Blue Moon.
Most of them seriously believe they've done nothing wrong! As if going from league 1 to matching United's incredible revenue earnt through 100s of millions of world wide fans was some kind of organic journey just down to "smart" management.
They're certain their owners words means they know it's a guarantee they're fine too.
While you can believe they could use their lawyer power and influence to get away with it it's almost unthinkable anyone of adult age, with even a cursory education or slight knowledge of the situation could truly believe they're "not guilty" of any of it.
There's bloody emails of their own staff admitting things!
Most of them seriously believe they've done nothing wrong! As if going from league 1 to matching United's incredible revenue earnt through 100s of millions of world wide fans was some kind of organic journey just down to "smart" management.
They're certain their owners words means they know it's a guarantee they're fine too.
While you can believe they could use their lawyer power and influence to get away with it it's almost unthinkable anyone of adult age, with even a cursory education or slight knowledge of the situation could truly believe they're "not guilty" of any of it.
There's bloody emails of their own staff admitting things!
Use Newcastle as a case study; bigger crowds than city and bigger recent history before city were taken over. They are arguably as rich if not richer and cannot spend money, nor have the daft sponsorships that bend/break the rules that city have because they are operating within the guidelines. City have and continue to take the piss and it’s obvious to a blind man on a galloping horse.
It’s a sure fire sign for me that city are acting outside the rules. Newcastle can’t even get anywhere near them and they have a bigger support, and had a bigger profile before city got taken over.
Sure, but it’s usually a bad sign when someone is being smug.
Mental isn’t it
I mean, they obviously don't actually match our revenue. What they have is the owner pouring money into their accounts and writing "totally from a very legit sponsor, ask anyone" on the envelopes. Shirt sales is one of the most telling indicators of actual popularity and revenue, and they rank below clubs like Tottenham and Galatasaray across Europe. City is one big fugazi. They can't even sell tickets for their FA Cup finals or their season-ending, title-deciding home games. A complete joke.
We have to wait, but I increasingly feel that City will get away with it.
This is what it boils down to really.
If they get away with it then what is the point? Every other team should immediately cook the books and cheat away because why not?
Not only that but it turns the Premier League and, in a sense, English football into an absolute joke. It will never regain it's credibility. Fans will always care because it's their teams competing and they have no choice, but it's a tainted competition.
This may have been asked and or answered earlier in this thread.
But, if city are found guilty of something fraudulent, would they then be open to criminal legal proceedings?
But, if city are found guilty of something fraudulent, would they then be open to criminal legal proceedings?
I saw an article somewhere saying that if they were found guilty, other clubs would be taking legal action against them for loss of earnings, etc.
As expected, they will get away with it.
Based on what I wonder. If you take all the circular sponsorships away from City and replace with real commercial value deals, they'll be losing at least £100m a year.
For your 10bn, you get the privelige of funding the losses, probably forever?
Like lots of X accounts, just an aggregator who states things, puts a link to a media outlet … I don’t take these posts with any reliability at all.
Was he the guy that was talking about the “the tyranny of the majority” before?
$10bn value
Tinpot club, low support, government provided stadium, rely massively on the riches of totalitarian oligarchs. Who on earth would pay $10bn for that. It is utterly ludicrous. That is more than most American football franchises. These jokers live in a massive bubble.
Tinpot club, low support, government provided stadium, rely massively on the riches of totalitarian oligarchs. Who on earth would pay $10bn for that. It is utterly ludicrous. That is more than most American football franchises. These jokers live in a massive bubble.
Sign inflated sponsorship deals with your own proxies to get an inflated valuation. Use that to sign even more inflated sponsorships with your other proxies. Rinse and repeat.$10bn value
Tinpot club, low support, government provided stadium, rely massively on the riches of totalitarian oligarchs. Who on earth would pay $10bn for that. It is utterly ludicrous. That is more than most American football franchises. These jokers live in a massive bubble.
There is nothing anyone can do, really... if you consider that even the latest non-sporting judiciary move against Juventus (always mantaining a very passive attitude against these sort of things) financial bookkeeping from 2022 was archived today
"The Judge of the Preliminary Investigations (GIP) of the Rome Court officially dismissed the investigation into Juventus Football Club's 2021/2022 financial statements. The club announced that the probe, which focused on "capital gains" and "salary maneuvers" concerning certain corporate executives, was closed with no charges brought against the club entity itself."
you can just imagine what proactive City would threw against the FA about any unfavorable ruling.
"The Judge of the Preliminary Investigations (GIP) of the Rome Court officially dismissed the investigation into Juventus Football Club's 2021/2022 financial statements. The club announced that the probe, which focused on "capital gains" and "salary maneuvers" concerning certain corporate executives, was closed with no charges brought against the club entity itself."
you can just imagine what proactive City would threw against the FA about any unfavorable ruling.
Imagine someone being daft enough to pay $10bn for them and then when they get their they realise it was a real like example of the Emperors new clothes
Thing is, regardless of the outcome of the charges, their time will end. Rich people won’t pour money into a black hole ad infinitum. At some point, they will start pulling back on the money flowing in from their own sponsors; I wouldn’t even be surprised if it was fairly soon. They built a church for Guardiola and now he’s gone; what’s next?
I’d not be surprised to start see them scaling back their investment in the next 5 or so years anyway; they may even use a guilty verdict as an excuse to do so.
The point is, whether they get away with it or not, City are not self sustaining and i don’t think they ever will be. Strip out sponsorship from companies also owned by their owners and there’s nothing there; just CL tickets being advertised on local radio on the day of the game. It’s a castle built on sand. Which is ironic given the region their owners are from.
I’d not be surprised to start see them scaling back their investment in the next 5 or so years anyway; they may even use a guilty verdict as an excuse to do so.
The point is, whether they get away with it or not, City are not self sustaining and i don’t think they ever will be. Strip out sponsorship from companies also owned by their owners and there’s nothing there; just CL tickets being advertised on local radio on the day of the game. It’s a castle built on sand. Which is ironic given the region their owners are from.
I can see that happening. They’ll claim to be the victim and swiftly pull back funding.
It’s better to just expel the whole club from football for five years. Problem solved.
A key sign will be bringing in Peter Ridsdale to tell the players that they lived the dream.
League will pay them off.
The verdict will probably be delivered after City have concluded all of their transfer business and spent another half a billion.
How can players like Anderson still consider citi, considering they can be relegated or stripped of tittles or even worse can happen like 3 years suspension from premiere league
They won’t be stripped of anything and pay more than anyone else.
A) City probably give them reassurances that nothing will happen. Their contracts probably also have ways for them to get out of City do get relegated or whatever. The good players will easily be able to find other clubs
B) They'll make some obscene money at city (Which we all know is more than reported) so a couple years there sets them up for life
C) Unfortunately, and this is despite me really hoping that City get a serious punishment, they probably aren't going to get more than a big fine, so it will not affect the players anyway