I would just love for one or more of the managers of other PL teams to call attention to this. Call them cheaters in press conferences. There‘s probably reasons why they can‘t.
City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with 130 FFP breaches | Hearing concluded | Awaiting outcome
- Thread starter VanGaalEra
- Start date
Probably because likes of Chelsea, Villa and of course Newcastle want the FFP rules relaxed for their benefit
Probably because they aren’t yet proven to be guilty, and it would therefore lead to them being sued.
Yeah and probably haven't got the same level of lawyers
Even if you got rid of FFP (or whatever its called these days) Newcastle and Villa still wouldnt be able to compete with the so called big 6 as all of those 6 are lightyears ahead of them pull wise and all except us have billionaire owners that would be happy to pump money in to the kitty to buy up the best players who will always choose one of them over Newcastle or Villa.
For now maybe but then what if they can offer players 400-500k a week? Newcastle especially would be able to go absolutely berserk.
The so called big 6 will be able to offer the same.
Players like Sesko and Mbuemo arent turning them down because the cant offer high wages, they are turning them down because they dont want to go there.
United couldn’t have offered them that. And besides they could just keep going until the big 6 couldn’t.
Money can go a long long way, look how Chelsea and city got here
Yeah both a pair of lottery winners whilst we suffered at the hands of these yankee leeches for 21 years
We are going to get GTA 6 before the results on this.
According to Gemini, the 115 charges were filed against City more than three years ago.
The 115 charges against Manchester City were officially filed by the Premier League on February 6, 2023.
The charges followed a four-year investigation into alleged financial breaches spanning a nine-season period from 2009–10 through 2017–18. The key allegations include:
The 115 charges against Manchester City were officially filed by the Premier League on February 6, 2023.
The charges followed a four-year investigation into alleged financial breaches spanning a nine-season period from 2009–10 through 2017–18. The key allegations include:
- 54 charges for failing to provide accurate, up-to-date financial information (including sponsorship revenues and operating costs).
- 14 charges for failing to provide accurate details regarding player and manager compensation.
- 5 charges relating to breaches of UEFA's Financial Fair Play (FFP) regulations.
- 7 charges relating to breaches of the Premier League's Profitability and Sustainability Rules (PSR).
- 35 charges for failing to cooperate with the Premier League's investigation between December 2018 and February 2023.
Christmas will be here first
What they should do is reveal the punishment on the exact same day they announce the start of their investigation into post-2018 breaches.
Gta 6, Nov isn't it? So technically...
Yeah fair point
Seriously feck off with the regurgitated AI shite. I'm having AI shoved down my neck at every turn. Everyone knows where to access it if they want to, you don't need to post it here
Hey gpt, sum this up so I can look pointlessly post it on a forum.
Weren't the charges levied by the FA, after they did a lengthy investigation? It seems hard to believe that they would then try to sweep it all under the rug and let them off. If they had no interest in doing anything about it, why would they start the whole thing in the first place?
I think it's more likely that they weren't prepared for the level of legal warfare they'd be facing. City are lawyering their way out of it.
I think it's more likely that they weren't prepared for the level of legal warfare they'd be facing. City are lawyering their way out of it.
Yeah and City will succeed unfortunately
35 charges for failing to cooperate but being able to compete in the league anyway is wild
In any properly regulated industry, they would have been destroyed by now.
People are putting this on Citys lawyers delaying or whatever but this is purely on the PL and the commission.
I mean it hasn't even gotten to the stage where City could appeal because there is no verdict or whatever.
The hearing has taken place 20 months ago, it's completely inexplicable why there is no verdict yet, basically only two options:
- The PL is corrupt and are looking for a way to save face in coordination with City.
- They're genuinely overwhelmed with the technical details of the verdict and want to be 100% bulletproof for upcoming appeals etc. Which I guess would be fair if we're talking half a year until a decision, but almost 2 years?? It's a billion dollar business, surely they can afford enough staff to quicker process the groundwork needed for a case like this. Completely ridiculous.
I mean it hasn't even gotten to the stage where City could appeal because there is no verdict or whatever.
The hearing has taken place 20 months ago, it's completely inexplicable why there is no verdict yet, basically only two options:
- The PL is corrupt and are looking for a way to save face in coordination with City.
- They're genuinely overwhelmed with the technical details of the verdict and want to be 100% bulletproof for upcoming appeals etc. Which I guess would be fair if we're talking half a year until a decision, but almost 2 years?? It's a billion dollar business, surely they can afford enough staff to quicker process the groundwork needed for a case like this. Completely ridiculous.
It's definitely corruption, the amount of money swimming around the PL is obscene, to think it's not influencing things is naive .
Similar thing happening in Spain with the Barca corruption story.
Last edited:
I am curious why they haven’t been suspended after being charged with corruption.
Because City lawyers have bought their silence
They’re not done with their rebuild yet.
Juventus were severely punished, yet it is a bigger club that City.
Authorities not a soft touch in Italy
They were probably waiting for Claude Opus 4.8 to be released so it can do some of the leg work, while Abu Dhabi is probably using Mythos.
In the end Juventus weren't found to have done anything illegal. The whole thing was a farce.
This is an even bigger farce
The accused party is presumed to be innocent until they are proven to be guilty, that's a basic principle of UK law.
City cannot be punished with suspension simply because they have been charged. Britain is a democracy not a police state and, despite the 115/130 charges, long may it continue.
Well, I mean that's true for criminal offences and ordinary people, but the PL is effectively a private members club operating under its own rules.
The same is true for athletes in sports - they agree to compete under a set of rules. That's why people get banned after an adverse drug test, even before it is proven officially.
The issue here is that there is nothing in the rules of the private members club to suspend a football club in these circumstances. City have done their utmost to litigate this out of existence.
No, not true. The issue is City could challenge the Premiership rules on the basis they contradict basic UK principles of law and would almost certainly win.
City cannot be punished until their guilt is proven. To do otherwise would result in the City lawyers taking the Premiership to the cleaners.
You mean if they were suspended before a judgment? That would not be in the rules so wouldn't be allowed. I wasn't questioning that.
My point is that preemptive sporting suspensions happen and are permissible. The PL could introduce this prospectively. It isn't a criminal matter. Most of this stuff happens outside the normal courts system anyhow.
That I did not know.
rules are rules but see to be honest ffp rules are biggest loada dung.
I can understand the proof of affordability and source of funds to make sure clubs don’t go bust and prove legality.
But if you buy a business whether it’s a pub a strip joint football club whatever you have to spend money to make money.
Eddie Howe has basically lost a job because multi billionaires have to make the books balance.
But like I said rules are rules
I can understand the proof of affordability and source of funds to make sure clubs don’t go bust and prove legality.
But if you buy a business whether it’s a pub a strip joint football club whatever you have to spend money to make money.
Eddie Howe has basically lost a job because multi billionaires have to make the books balance.
But like I said rules are rules
Apparently you don't have to follow the rules, City are doing just fine and have not followed the rules for years.
Put if or when they are found guilty regardless of the punishment there titles with have asterisks. Rangers done similar in Scotland didn’t they before ffp rules. Didn’t lose there titles.
I’m a betting man and I would near bet city won’t get found guilty or innocent.
I think it will be not enough evidence to convict or punish, if they are found guilty regardless of punishment. the premiership will get compo claims from every club in the league at that time. From teams finishing 2nd missing Europe relegated etc so much grounds for compos.
Either letting the decision go on this long to build up the extra money for the compo or find how they don’t have pay the compo
I think it will be not enough evidence to convict or punish, if they are found guilty regardless of punishment. the premiership will get compo claims from every club in the league at that time. From teams finishing 2nd missing Europe relegated etc so much grounds for compos.
Either letting the decision go on this long to build up the extra money for the compo or find how they don’t have pay the compo
Don't see any of that happening, if I was Saudi I would do what I wanted at Newcastle regardless of any rules or regulations from the PL. It takes them well over a decade getting charged and years to get a slap on the wrist. In that time you are the best team in the world let alone the PL and no one dares touching you.