City avoid transfer ban

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  1. Aug 13, 2019
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    andyox Full Member

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    Agreed the difference is massive, I was just trying to point out that the charges are not "literally" the same, as other posters seemed to be saying.
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    What’s the point of this forum when it takes 30min to approve a message and the post gets lost in 50 new replies?
  3. Aug 13, 2019
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    Denis79 Full Member

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    Ah ok, thank you.
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    fergiesarmy1 Full Member

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    Wasn’t it backdated so he missed about 6 weeks?
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    BeforeKeanetherewasRobson Full Member

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    A one window ban would have probably been broadly appropriate?

    Fines mean diddly to City.
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    andyox Full Member

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    Agreed on that last point, the fine is obviously completely meaningless (not that I'm complaining).
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    RedDevilRoshi Full Member

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    Genuinely not surprised with this news one bit!

    They will continuously keep doing it, knowing that they will get away with it. It’s the truth.
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    sammsky1 Pochettino's #1 fan

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    :lol::lol: My bad and I stand corrected!
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    Do anyone even care about them. They are having one of their finest periods and yet they are not treated as a big club. Atleast with Chelsea when Roman bought them it was fun hating them but with city it is like Chelsea Mark II with more spending.
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    The only positive i can draw from it is it doesn’t help Liverpool’s quest in winning PL.
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    ValenciaRocks Full Member

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    Absolutely spot on. It seems that city are the latest addition to the Fifa Darling club

    EDIT: Not that this was the case already I suppose
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    Nou_Camp99 Full Member

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    City could win the next 15-20 titles and it will mean little. They have had to get a country to finance then to achieve this. This goes way beyond anything we've ever seen before and I don't see how it can be surpassed.
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    fergiesarmy1 Full Member

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    Haha agreed
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    Judge Red Don't Call Me Douglas

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    So as long you admit to breaking the rules, you get what amounts to a meaningless fine, but if you deny breaking the rules, you’re done.

    This sounds more like a case of as long as you slip FIFA a £315,000 bung, you're in their good books.
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    Fecking hell do I hate City. Horrible bastards.
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    BlueMoonOutcast Rag in Disguise

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    Why is everyone freaking out over this? Chelsea broke the rules almost 30 times. In no way should the punishments be the same.
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    What's fifa's explanation for the lower punishment? Did Chelsea sign violate the rule a whole bunch of times while City did it maybe once or twice?

    Anyway, why is this only an issue for English clubs? Doesn't La Masia sign south americans U-18 all the time? AFAIK french clubs sign African youth players too - it used to be huge issue - agents charting poor african kids to France and trying to get them a trial at French clubs. If they don't end up signing for a club, the kid just gets abandoned on the roads to fend for himself.
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    You answered your own question in your second sentence.

    On the second paragraph, off the top of my head Atletico Madrid and Barcelona have both received transfer bans for the signing of youth players.
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    The bold bit was going to be my question, too. Seems very inconsistent to slap Chelsea with a transfer ban and yet give City a pitiful fine.

    I'm sure City will be terrified about having to pay that bill. No posh biscuits in the staff canteen that week.
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    fergiesarmy1 Full Member

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    Good argument if your accused of a few murders, yeah but look at ted bundy
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    Tbf playing youth players improperly in trial games is not quite the same as murder.

    But yes, 29 murders is more/worse than 2.
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    BlueMoonOutcast Rag in Disguise

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    We signed two under 18 players, that's hardly the same as killing someone...

    I never thought I'd ever have to type that out.
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    fergiesarmy1 Full Member

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    Think it was more than that you were only found guilty of 2 though
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    Gentleman Jim It's absolutely amazing!

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    Am no expert in this field but as far as I know the comparison with Chelsea's punishment is like comparing apples with oranges.
    It seems that Chelsea received a heavier punishment as there were more instances of transgressions, some were of more serious rules, it was not their first offence for it and they also denied their culpability.
    The earlier quote about the offences being similar is being deliberately misleading. The subject matter is similar but the circumstances are not.
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    Fluctuation0161 Full Member

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    Not the first time? Happened in 2017.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...ity-hit-transfer-ban-signing-academy-players/

    "City were given the same length suspension as the Anfield club, a two-year transfer embargo on players registered with a rival Premier League or EFL side in the preceding 18 months, with the second year’s ban suspended for three years.

    They were also fined £300,000, £200,000 more than Liverpool, who were last month found guilty of tapping up one schoolboy footballer and offering inducements to him and his family ."
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    Delighted for them. Fair play.
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    Yes, that's a Premier League investigation/punishment for breaching Premier League rules. The fine today was a FIFA investigation/punishment for breaching FIFA rules.

    City (like many clubs) have obviously pushed the boundaries on youth players and breached the rules. But let's at least try to discuss objectively/factually.
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    They did nothing wrong anyway... said everyone at the meeting as they looked upon the cheques.
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    If this was united it would be brought up on prime ministers question time.
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    What if it wasn't Citys first offence?
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    I guess while, Abramovich only threatened to maim them if they were banned, Mansour threatened worse?
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    I'd be on board with that :lol:
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    Gentleman Jim It's absolutely amazing!

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    It was City's first offence in that category of rules as far as I know.
    Do you disagree?
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    No need for that last paragraph, it's xenophobia bordering on racsim
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    What's FIFA's excuse to not ban them seeing that Chelsea has already been slammed with a ban for the same offense that both clubs committed in the same year? I'm not getting this.
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    You know it's bad when even the city fans are shocked:lol:
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    I’m struggling to understand how you interpret a frank description of the UAE as being xenophobic, bordering on racist?
    What part of the statement is untrue ?
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    Yeah because your owners have never killed anybody.
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    padr81 Mr. MoneyBags

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    Horrible, we should have got the ban if guilty tbh... the whole "we didn't ban them because they pled guilty" is stupid.
    I think we didn't get a ban for this as we'll get a transfer ban for screwing FFP and avoid being thrown out of UCL. Either way its double standards, Chelsea should be furious. Accepting guilt should not lessen the punishment.