City avoid transfer ban

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OK about a lesser punishment for City, but the difference in punishment is massive! Chelsea's season has been hugely effected. Not only this season, but probably no CL football next season too. Meanwhile, City get fined a bag of peanuts. For all its great football your club (NOT IT'S FANS) stinks to high heaven and is as bent as a 9 pound note.
Agreed the difference is massive, I was just trying to point out that the charges are not "literally" the same, as other posters seemed to be saying.
 

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What’s the point of this forum when it takes 30min to approve a message and the post gets lost in 50 new replies?
 

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Fifa said City breached article 19 of its regulations: "International transfers of players are only permitted if the player is over the age of 18."

Chelsea were banned from signing players for two transfer windows for a similar rule breach - but the club are appealing to have that overturned.

"The Fifa disciplinary committee has sanctioned English club Manchester City FC for breaches relating to the international transfer and registration of players under the age of 18," said football's world governing body in a statement.

"Manchester City FC was found to have breached, among others, article 19 of the Fifa Regulations on the status and transfer of players.

"The disciplinary committee took into account the fact that Manchester City FC accepted its responsibility and sanctioned the club with a fine of CHF 370,000."
Ah ok, thank you.
 

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Genuinely not surprised with this news one bit!

They will continuously keep doing it, knowing that they will get away with it. It’s the truth.
 

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Do anyone even care about them. They are having one of their finest periods and yet they are not treated as a big club. Atleast with Chelsea when Roman bought them it was fun hating them but with city it is like Chelsea Mark II with more spending.
 

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The only positive i can draw from it is it doesn’t help Liverpool’s quest in winning PL.
 

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What a joke. Essentially saying to every other club that it's okay to breach the rules, but when you're investigated just admit that you're guilty and pay the 400k fine or whatever it is.
If you claimed ignorance of the rules at least you can hide behind the guise of stupidity (however unlikely that may be). Admission that you understood the rules and said feck em anyway, now that's a different level of we don't give a damn.
Absolutely spot on. It seems that city are the latest addition to the Fifa Darling club

EDIT: Not that this was the case already I suppose
 

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City could win the next 15-20 titles and it will mean little. They have had to get a country to finance then to achieve this. This goes way beyond anything we've ever seen before and I don't see how it can be surpassed.
 

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So as long you admit to breaking the rules, you get what amounts to a meaningless fine, but if you deny breaking the rules, you’re done.

This sounds more like a case of as long as you slip FIFA a £315,000 bung, you're in their good books.
 

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Why is everyone freaking out over this? Chelsea broke the rules almost 30 times. In no way should the punishments be the same.
 

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What's fifa's explanation for the lower punishment? Did Chelsea sign violate the rule a whole bunch of times while City did it maybe once or twice?

Anyway, why is this only an issue for English clubs? Doesn't La Masia sign south americans U-18 all the time? AFAIK french clubs sign African youth players too - it used to be huge issue - agents charting poor african kids to France and trying to get them a trial at French clubs. If they don't end up signing for a club, the kid just gets abandoned on the roads to fend for himself.
 

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What's fifa's explanation for the lower punishment? Did Chelsea sign violate the rule a whole bunch of times while City did it maybe once or twice?

Anyway, why is this only an issue for English clubs? Don't La Masia sign south americans U-18 all the time? AFAIK french clubs sign African youth players too - it used to be huge issue - agents charting poor african kids from to France and trying to get them a trial at French clubs. If they don't end up signing for a club, the kid just gets abandoned on the roads to fend for himself.
You answered your own question in your second sentence.

On the second paragraph, off the top of my head Atletico Madrid and Barcelona have both received transfer bans for the signing of youth players.
 

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What's fifa's explanation for the lower punishment? Did Chelsea sign violate the rule a whole bunch of times while City did it maybe once or twice?

Anyway, why is this only an issue for English clubs? Doesn't La Masia sign south americans U-18 all the time? AFAIK french clubs sign African youth players too - it used to be huge issue - agents charting poor african kids to France and trying to get them a trial at French clubs. If they don't end up signing for a club, the kid just gets abandoned on the roads to fend for himself.
The bold bit was going to be my question, too. Seems very inconsistent to slap Chelsea with a transfer ban and yet give City a pitiful fine.

I'm sure City will be terrified about having to pay that bill. No posh biscuits in the staff canteen that week.
 

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Good argument if your accused of a few murders, yeah but look at ted bundy
Tbf playing youth players improperly in trial games is not quite the same as murder.

But yes, 29 murders is more/worse than 2.
 

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Am no expert in this field but as far as I know the comparison with Chelsea's punishment is like comparing apples with oranges.
It seems that Chelsea received a heavier punishment as there were more instances of transgressions, some were of more serious rules, it was not their first offence for it and they also denied their culpability.
The earlier quote about the offences being similar is being deliberately misleading. The subject matter is similar but the circumstances are not.
 

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Not the first time? Happened in 2017.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/05/05/manchester-city-hit-transfer-ban-signing-academy-players/

"City were given the same length suspension as the Anfield club, a two-year transfer embargo on players registered with a rival Premier League or EFL side in the preceding 18 months, with the second year’s ban suspended for three years.

They were also fined £300,000, £200,000 more than Liverpool, who were last month found guilty of tapping up one schoolboy footballer and offering inducements to him and his family ."
 

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Yes, that's a Premier League investigation/punishment for breaching Premier League rules. The fine today was a FIFA investigation/punishment for breaching FIFA rules.

City (like many clubs) have obviously pushed the boundaries on youth players and breached the rules. But let's at least try to discuss objectively/factually.
 

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They did nothing wrong anyway... said everyone at the meeting as they looked upon the cheques.
 

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Yes, that's a Premier League investigation/punishment for breaching Premier League rules. The fine today was a FIFA investigation/punishment for breaching FIFA rules.

City (like many clubs) have obviously pushed the boundaries on youth players and breached the rules. But let's at least try to discuss objectively/factually.
If this was united it would be brought up on prime ministers question time.
 
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Am no expert in this field but as far as I know the comparison with Chelsea's punishment is like comparing apples with oranges.
It seems that Chelsea received a heavier punishment as there were more instances of transgressions, some were of more serious rules, it was not their first offence for it and they also denied their culpability.
The earlier quote about the offences being similar is being deliberately misleading. The subject matter is similar but the circumstances are not.
What if it wasn't Citys first offence?
 

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I guess while, Abramovich only threatened to maim them if they were banned, Mansour threatened worse?
 

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Manchester City is the most disgusting organisation in world football.

They really are a cancer and I personally don't recognise any of their so-called achievements as they've broken rule after rule whilst using the dirtiest money from the most vile source possible.

I'd take playing in League 2 with the Glazier's putting all of our income into their Christmas Party Pot ahead of swapping situations with them.

It will all end in tears, as when there is an inevitable political/ physical war between that part of the Middle East when they stop becoming useful to the west, you can bet your life City will be used as political pawns that will be drained of life as a retaliation.

It'll be nothing more than they deserved for selling their soul to the devil. Wonder how many of City's supporters realise that if their owners could click their fingers tomorrow and create their ideal world, none of them would be in it? In fact, they'd all either be enslaved or actively terminated, depending on sex, religion, ethnicity and or sexual orientation.
No need for that last paragraph, it's xenophobia bordering on racsim
 

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What's FIFA's excuse to not ban them seeing that Chelsea has already been slammed with a ban for the same offense that both clubs committed in the same year? I'm not getting this.
 

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No need for that last paragraph, it's xenophobia bordering on racsim
I’m struggling to understand how you interpret a frank description of the UAE as being xenophobic, bordering on racist?
What part of the statement is untrue ?
 

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Horrible, we should have got the ban if guilty tbh... the whole "we didn't ban them because they pled guilty" is stupid.
I think we didn't get a ban for this as we'll get a transfer ban for screwing FFP and avoid being thrown out of UCL. Either way its double standards, Chelsea should be furious. Accepting guilt should not lessen the punishment.