It's easy for these people to pile on the players and sic the fans on them as well as it deflects from their own shortcomings. Why would they stop?Is anyone else fed up with the pile on on the squad? From Ratcliffe, Amorim and all our ex players. What's the help in continually saying the players aren't good enough. We get it. Rashford aside, hard to accuse anyone of lacking effort, just ability. And then we seem to wonder why players who looked half useful like Höjlund suddenly have zero confidence, or why we start games so timidly.
Whats the prize and where's it coming from? Who's going to sponsor this competition for losers.Here's an idea that Ratcliffe can have for free if he's struggling.
If we don't win the Europa (and therefore don't qualify for Europe next season) we should start a new competition. Invite 15 other teams that have also not qualified for Europe (including maybe AC Milan).
Every team plays 4 home and 4 away (similar to current Champions and Europa League) and then quarter final, semi final and final.
Play the final in the states at the end of the season.
Make up some of the lost revenue from missed opportunity and then make a shit load from the final if we don't feck up.
Easy.
So the European Losers League?Here's an idea that Ratcliffe can have for free if he's struggling.
If we don't win the Europa (and therefore don't qualify for Europe next season) we should start a new competition. Invite 15 other teams that have also not qualified for Europe (including maybe AC Milan).
Every team plays 4 home and 4 away (similar to current Champions and Europa League) and then quarter final, semi final and final.
Play the final in the states at the end of the season.
Make up some of the lost revenue from missed opportunity and then make a shit load from the final if we don't feck up.
Easy.
Maybe Jimbo can charge £66 a ticket, because we all know how important an unrecognised competition is to the fans.Here's an idea that Ratcliffe can have for free if he's struggling.
If we don't win the Europa (and therefore don't qualify for Europe next season) we should start a new competition. Invite 15 other teams that have also not qualified for Europe (including maybe AC Milan).
Every team plays 4 home and 4 away (similar to current Champions and Europa League) and then quarter final, semi final and final.
Play the final in the states at the end of the season.
Make up some of the lost revenue from missed opportunity and then make a shit load from the final if we don't feck up.
Easy.
You need to be ruthless to compete at the top. We always were when we were successful, now you have people wanting players to be given chances after clearly not being at the required standardIs anyone else fed up with the pile on on the squad? From Ratcliffe, Amorim and all our ex players. What's the help in continually saying the players aren't good enough. We get it. Rashford aside, hard to accuse anyone of lacking effort, just ability. And then we seem to wonder why players who looked half useful like Höjlund suddenly have zero confidence, or why we start games so timidly.
Yet. It's on the back burner waiting to be re-heated.Pleasantly surprised that they aren’t trying to convince United fans that we need to get behind the super league money grab
You know that. I know that. But running out of cash potentially causes that. And I interpreted it as that we could have gone bust not bankrupt. Bust is a more generic term that ranges from being financially ruined or failing to actually being wound up. The narrative has been we were going bust going down the path we are going. And when that was put to Berrada he didn't gainsay that.This is your interpretation of the quote... not the fact. Go listen to it again... he says the club would have run out of cash, he didn't say bankrupt.
There is a massive difference between going into administration and running out of cash.
You know that. I know that. But running out of cash potentially causes that. And I interpreted it as that we could have gone bust not bankrupt. Bust is a more generic term that ranges from being financially ruined or failing to actually being wound up. The narrative has been we were going bust going down the path we are going. And when that was put to Berrada he didn't gainsay that.
But you are missing the point through the semantics. Which was that this is scaremongering to justify cuts and ticket price rises.
And I would add. For all the so-called financial woes, next day we announced a £2bn new stadium. With not a clue how it will be financed [Berrada admits]. And all that alongside not apparently having enough dough to bring in new players. Most fans, I'm sure would want investment in players FIRST, not the infrastructure which is about revenue generation and profits.
100%, Nice when to adults can offer different perspectives and still agree.Sure, I get that. But unfortunately, we have increased the net player trading position in the current year due to the heavy expenditure in q1 2025. Our committed net spend from this year alone is around 200m.
I am not having a go at the quality of the transfer business, I am merely stating that out net player trading position (which doesn't include salaries) is brutal and that needs to change. We are on course for another P&l loss of 100m plus in the current year.
Your point about refinancing is well made. I wouldn't dare dismiss it. Indeed, I have mentioned that back at the time of the first refinancing post takeover (around 2006) the glazers went on a cost cutting binge to polish the books in advance of that refinancing in order to get better terms through having better EBITDA coverage. The terms in any refinancing is more about your capacity to repay the interest. Less capacity (less coverage) then the greater the interest. I am pretty sure though that this reason for the heavy cost cutting (refinancing the legacy LBO debt) isn't one that JR is going to mention publicly. As you are aware, the finance costs are one of the major reasons why we are making such big losses.
Funny he’s digging out Arnold for being a Rugby man yet Ratcliffe’s own right hand man and go to guy for all things sport Dave Brailsford is famously a cycling guy, what the feck does he know about football?
At least in the beginning he did. Which is why the summer was messed up regarding the overall strategy which results in the current season.He's not making the football decisions though, is he
What about Vivell, Wilcox and Berrada, you know..... the people who run the football side of the club.Funny he’s digging out Arnold for being a Rugby man yet Ratcliffe’s own right hand man and go to guy for all things sport Dave Brailsford is famously a cycling guy, what the feck does he know about football?
At least in the beginning he did. Which is why the summer was messed up regarding the overall strategy which results in the current season.
Brailsford did throw away the season if reports are true that he wanted to keep EtH
The CEO (ie. Arnolds replacement) is omar Berrada.Funny he’s digging out Arnold for being a Rugby man yet Ratcliffe’s own right hand man and go to guy for all things sport Dave Brailsford is famously a cycling guy, what the feck does he know about football?
That is nonsense and you know it. And btw, he has installed good football people, better than what the club had in the past 12 years for gods sakeAt least in the beginning he did. Which is why the summer was messed up regarding the overall strategy which results in the current season.
Brailsford did throw away the season if reports are true that he wanted to keep EtH
He's not making the football decisions though, is he
What about Vivell, Wilcox and Berrada, you know..... the people who run the football side of the club.
Come on man, whether you like the ownership or not be genuine with your criticisms.
He has Jean-Claude Blanc reporting into him so there was a football hand on the tiller.
The CEO (ie. Arnolds replacement) is omar Berrada.
Arnold wasn't qualified to be a CEO, that's probably the same reason Brailsford isn't CEO.I’m not saying there isn’t any football people making decisions, there obviously is and that’s a good thing but there’s no denying that Brailsford had a lot of influence early on. He’s also been involved with Nice and Lausanne, I’m not hating on Ratcliffe I just find it interesting he thought Arnold wasn’t qualified because he was a Rugby man yet he seems to really value the opinion of Brailsford even on football matters despite him being a cycling man who has nothing to do with football either.
Obviously there's no admiration here for Ratcliffe, but to me the radio silence from Glazers was orders of magnitude more frustrating.He’s a complete whopper. You’d almost admire that he doesn’t try to hide it. Almost.
I think Ineos have done a good job of providing a smoke screen for the Glazers. They're error after error (all admitted) doesn't fill me with much confidence in their competence. There was another road to go down which would have wiped out crippling debt. But Chelsea season ticket holder Sir Jim Ratcliffe and Co gave the Glazers an easy out. So, yeah, I'm angry over what Ineos have done. Not grateful. Nor, IMHO should any Man Utd fan with a brainYou do realise losing 100m a year, close to breaching FFP is not Scaremongering....
Do you think Berrada will tell everyone how they are financing it straight away?
Do you actually think they have no clue how to finance this? I mean, you must detest INEOS alot if thats what you think.
Finally, we have spent over £1bn in the recent past on players with nothing to show for it, alot of the fans were complaining about us spending too much money and nothing was done on infrastructure.
Now that INEOS want to improve the infrastructure, you are here moaning about it.
Do you think spending 50m on Carrington is to generate revenue and profit?
The stadium is falling apart... what bit of that dont you get?
Which bit is nonsense?That is nonsense and you know it. And btw, he has installed good football people, better than what the club had in the past 12 years for gods sake
They pillaged the club. Maybe Jim thinks we should all kiss and make up with the Glazers because they are nice people.Glazers "abused" by the fans. But the the Glazers according to him did not abuse the club.
He also ordered 22 pedals instead of boots dont forgetFunny he’s digging out Arnold for being a Rugby man yet Ratcliffe’s own right hand man and go to guy for all things sport Dave Brailsford is famously a cycling guy, what the feck does he know about football?
Except Wilcox they all arrived to late to set the strategy for last summer. Which results in the current disaster season.What about Vivell, Wilcox and Berrada, you know..... the people who run the football side of the club.
You dont think that the current set up is better than under Arnold or Ed?Which bit is nonsense?
It was reported that Brailsford wasthe one who wanted to keep ETH.
Better football people is yet to be determined.
Said this on Tuesday,Fair enough.
I think Ratcliffe is the last person we should be aiming our guns on, no matter the mistakes he makes.
The guy has put his own millions to the club. Something we have not seen in decades.
For that alone, he can mistakes. Because he has proven that when it matters he is there to help the club, so his misstep is not from point on not caring.
Glazers are the worst, till now they haven't said a word about the new stadium. Imagine.
Ratcliffe is even dreaming of a new stadium. He is not perfect but he has earned his flowers for now.
I think our biggest concern now, is how we main team plays.
Nope, he wasn't hired for a football club. Someone helping for a brief amount of time until we hire someone is one thing. But hiring a non-football person to run football things is something else.Funny he’s digging out Arnold for being a Rugby man yet Ratcliffe’s own right hand man and go to guy for all things sport Dave Brailsford is famously a cycling guy, what the feck does he know about football?
