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Like any of us know what that means. It could be a terrible decision for all we know. :lol:
 
I can't lie INEOS have had an absolute mare since they've come in. The best in class shtick has already been debunked. Just a shit show from them
 
You may be mistaking Brailsford for Jean-Claude Blanc.
Both really. I was under the impression they both planned on being very hands-on during the first year or so, and then stepping back to their normal INEOS Sport roles.
 
I can't lie INEOS have had an absolute mare since they've come in. The best in class shtick has already been debunked. Just a shit show from them
The evidence was there at Nice for all to see. They are clueless about football.
 
INEOS, as predicted, are fully on the way to completely ruining this club.

And some fans actually longed for this.
 
INEOS, as predicted, are fully on the way to completely ruining this club.

And some fans actually longed for this.
People just wanted a change after years of Glazer mismanagement, which isn't surprising, particularly when the other alternative seemed to be Qatar.

It certainly feels like plus ça change though.
 
I dont understand why people are getting so up in arms about this..
Brailsford has been INEOS's man for years and when we got taken over, he was brought in to help SRJ build a structure.. Now they feel they have the structure, Brailsford can step back into his former role.
 
People just wanted a change after years of Glazer mismanagement, which isn't surprising, particularly when the other alternative seemed to be Qatar.

It certainly feels like plus ça change though.

It will do. Can't just pretend the last decade of mismanagement can magically disappear.

Seems to be many fans of a certain stripe delighted with Ineos failure as they think it 'proves' Qatar.

They'll be hoping for further failure and likely will start talking up Brailsford, as he was 'building something' if results don't improve.
 
Brailsford was always going to be a background consultant or part of the transitional team as INEOS got the actual people who will run things in and now that the likes of Berrada, Wilcox and Vivell have been here about a year, he can step back since they’re settled in.

I think any new technical director they may wish to appoint will be a younger, inexperienced name that isn’t going to excite fans necessarily.
 
Wasn't this expected at some point or another? Didn't think Brailsford would be at United long-term and has essentially completed the overhaul of United's structure and delivered a new training facility. I can't see him sticking around to lay out the cones in the morning.
 
Brailsford was always going to be a background consultant or part of the transitional team as INEOS got the actual people who will run things in and now that the likes of Berrada, Wilcox and Vivell have been here about a year, he can step back since they’re settled in.

I think any new technical director they may wish to appoint will be a younger, inexperienced name that isn’t going to excite fans necessarily.

Exactly this. Obviously I get it the fans who wanted Qatar will point to this and say... the club keeps shuffling its structure.

Its because fans think that you come in day 1... day 2 structure should be in place with no room for mistakes.

Its just naive thinking, the real world doesn't operate in that way, things take time.

This is a massive club, for someone new to come in and understand it, review it then look at improving it, it is not a quick process.
 
I dont understand why people are getting so up in arms about this..
Brailsford has been INEOS's man for years and when we got taken over, he was brought in to help SRJ build a structure.. Now they feel they have the structure, Brailsford can step back into his former role.
Yep. They literally can’t win with some fans because the same people moaning about this change we’re probably also negative about him being involved with the club.

It seems pretty obvious that he’s come in to help manage the change and is stepping back now they’re happy with the structure.
 
Yep. They literally can’t win with some fans because the same people moaning about this change we’re probably also negative about him being involved with the club.

It seems pretty obvious that he’s come in to help manage the change and is stepping back now they’re happy with the structure.

I remember not long ago they were like whos this cycling fool, what does he know.. he should be sacked too.

When he is told to take a step back, its oh another shuffle, more proof that INEOS have no idea what they are doing.

When in reality this was the plan all along, Brailsford was sporting director at INEOS who was brought in to help shape Manutd structure, not to be the structure.
 
I dont understand why people are getting so up in arms about this..
Brailsford has been INEOS's man for years and when we got taken over, he was brought in to help SRJ build a structure.. Now they feel they have the structure, Brailsford can step back into his former role.
But what experience Brailsford does have in building a structure of football team?
From reports he was involved in two major decisions - sticking with ETH and bringing in Ashworth. Both now gone.
The first one "in hindsight" was a shocking decision. At least the latter I give him some credit for as it was crucial and IMO top appointment for the long term but its a moot point now anyway.
He had no clue who Berrada was and it was Omar picking up Wilcox. Not sure Brailsford ever discussed with Vivell at any point.
To claim that Brailsford did help SRJ to build a structure is, sorry, just nonsense.
 
The man might be a cnut but we are debating the head of one of Britain's most successful Olympians stepping aside for Man City's heir apparent and an their head of youth are good enough versus Eddy the Eagle and his checkbook.

Day is darkest before the dawn.
 
But what experience Brailsford does have in building a structure of football team?
From reports he was involved in two major decisions - sticking with ETH and bringing in Ashworth. Both now gone.
The first one "in hindsight" was a shocking decision. At least the latter I give him some credit for as it was crucial and IMO top appointment for the long term but its a moot point now anyway.
He had no clue who Berrada was and it was Omar picking up Wilcox. Not sure Brailsford ever discussed with Vivell at any point.
To claim that Brailsford did help SRJ to build a structure is, sorry, just nonsense.

Why does he need specific experience building a structure of a football club? He is director of sport at INEOS, he has built structures in sport.

He brought in football people to help with the football. Its interesting how many fans ignore how big Manutd is, they are still a corporation.

To claim SJR's closest INEOS confidant did not help in the structure is just naive really.
 
A total aside - I'm doing a leadership course at the moment and part of it was all about marginal gains and the stuff that Team Sky did - for some odd reason being massive drugs cheat wasn't really mentioned in the course as being a marginal gain. Funny that.
 
A total aside - I'm doing a leadership course at the moment and part of it was all about marginal gains and the stuff that Team Sky did - for some odd reason being massive drugs cheat wasn't really mentioned in the course as being a marginal gain. Funny that.
It's like the famous saying "History is written by the winners! (Holding medical exemption certificates behind their backs)"
 
A total aside - I'm doing a leadership course at the moment and part of it was all about marginal gains and the stuff that Team Sky did - for some odd reason being massive drugs cheat wasn't really mentioned in the course as being a marginal gain. Funny that.
They weren't massive drug cheats

It's just pure coincidence that the profession in the world with the highest incidence of asthma suffers is pro cycling
 
I know we all were upset back in Jan when everything looked bleak and when alot of fans were crying about not replacing players.

I had fans tell me we could have done with Rashford Antony etc.. but the club took the decision of short term pain for long term gains.

Just saving on those wages for 5 months meant that we were good with PSR coming into this window.

All the £1 -£-15m saving is the reason we can go and hit the window early with 2 top signings.