We would be better under Southgate at this current time. Guessing if everyone at the club wasn't a yes man before Ashworth got sacked then they are now.
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That's the issue isn't it? We can never get a run going, it is always one step forwards, then one step back, but unfortunately there are usually another couple of steps back after that as well. If we could just get on some sort of run it would boost everybodies confidence.
Are you Ashworth's Mrs or something, simmer down you absolute melt.
If he didn't fair enough, asking mods to ban people who say something you don't like is idiotic.
There were reports he pushed for Southgate but was over ruled, it’s also been reported he didn’t want Southgate so at the end of the day who knows.
Excellent post. The squad may not be CL worthy, but I understand setting that as the goal and maybe coming short but still getting Europe. It’s unforgivable to aim for anything below the European places to me. Again, emphasis on “aim”. To set out to miss Europe totally? Shambolic
With Wilcox now "reported" to have had doubts before appointing Amorim, I'm convinced the only reason he's not been sacked already is because Wilcox and his partner Berrada are trying to find ways to justify their positions before doing so.
Wilcox should be the first to go cowardly little rat. Absolutely no way he was against it then gets a promotion and Ashford given the exit.
This thread should be the one with twice as many posts then the Amorim one. There were so many warning signs, from other clubs, from the guy they moved heaven in earth for to get in Ashford yet they still went with Amorim, even insisted he come early against the man's own wishes.
How do you move forward with such utterly stupid and cowardly people at the helm? This is a billion dollar industry, they're competing against the brightest minds in the world. They saw the no driving sign and jumped it head first anyway, they ran into the burning building ffs! Absolute morons of the highest order.
This thread should be the one with twice as many posts then the Amorim one. There were so many warning signs, from other clubs, from the guy they moved heaven in earth for to get in Ashford yet they still went with Amorim, even insisted he come early against the man's own wishes.
How do you move forward with such utterly stupid and cowardly people at the helm? This is a billion dollar industry, they're competing against the brightest minds in the world. They saw the no driving sign and jumped it head first anyway, they ran into the burning building ffs! Absolute morons of the highest order.
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When’s Becks leading a consortium to take over the Glazer scum?
Now that's something I could get behind.
We should be playing Sheffield Wednesday tonight/tomorrow...
It was reported a while back that in the first ten hag summer open interview parade that Wilcox wasn't a fan of Amorim then. But made the damascene conversion when it became clear he was Berrada's first choice later on when he was sacked.
Yeah, maybe so. I was actually reading an article from around that time too and it suggested the same. So maybe Wilcox is not strapped to the same rocket.
They’re not though, are they? As dire as we were pre-INEOS, we’re even worse now and their mistakes compound, which means they have to fix their own mess as well as the mess we were before they came and lowered the bar to what it is.
There's not a single club that would have kept the manager around after his record last season yet we doubled down on it and let him overhaul the squad and spent a bunch of money we supposedly don't have. These guys are too sensitive to their own image that it's clouding their judgment on what is right for the club. After the Ashworth fiasco, they don't want to admit another major mistake in appointing Amorim and we're going to waste another season all the while asking fans to pay more for ticket prices.
1. The players aren't 100% brought for Amorim, that is a fact.
2. What would we rather do in your opinion - buy no one?
3. They will admit their mistake pretty soon I feel. No the first one and they had the balls to admit it with Ashworth.
No we shouldn't. Any component manager wouldnt have had us finishing 15th last season, meaning we enter at the 2nd round, thats how bad this farce has become.
I thought Ineos did well in the transfer market, but they need to act fast regarding Amorim.
I really can’t fully trust their judgement yet though, again, since SAF left, it felt like every single manger was living game by game before sacking. I need to see someone in charge proactively improve. They need to identify problems, be proactive, and solve the issues if we ever really have ambitions to win trophies. That goes for both managers and players.. not keep coaches well past the time they should be sacked, or not selling players quick enough when things stops working out.
I really can’t fully trust their judgement yet though, again, since SAF left, it felt like every single manger was living game by game before sacking. I need to see someone in charge proactively improve. They need to identify problems, be proactive, and solve the issues if we ever really have ambitions to win trophies. That goes for both managers and players.. not keep coaches well past the time they should be sacked, or not selling players quick enough when things stops working out.
Well his backers couldn’t prove that they were serious
How do they land these roles in the first place? This is meant to be the top level of the industry.
A patriotic, knighted Tory representing dubious political interests?
What could possibly go wrong...
Much like how Murtough got the top job at United based on his relationship with Woodward it’s the same for Wilcox who got the top job at United based on his relationship with Berrada from their time at City, neither Murtough or Wilcox got their roles based on qualifications or experience which is where the problem at the top of the footballing department lies.
Club is looking healthy from an operating standpoint
Firing Tea Ladies finally paying off.
Still made a loss even after all of those measures. Yikes. Also it’s weird how they’re guiding for roughly the same revenue and EBITDA for next year (as this past year) but claim that the cost cutting benefits will be seen. Not sure how the maths is mathsing there.
Match day revenue increase was due to the club playing 5 more home games than the previous year. We have one cup competition this year that doesn’t even gurantee home games. There will be a sizeable drop for this season. We had a lot more home matches due to the Europa league, league cup this past year.
TBF with Wilcox though hes said that our youth teams dont have to play same formation/tactic as the first team and our signings so far dont really scream 3421 that if we sacked amorim today the next manager could implement 4231 or 433 right away w/o much difficulty.
Or it's more likely that you cannot mathsing.
A clause in Ruben Amorim's contract means he would receive a £12m pay-off if Manchester United sack him before the first anniversary of his appointment on 1 November.
From BBC Sport
No wonder the board are taking so long.
From BBC Sport
No wonder the board are taking so long.
So, the third international break before he is gone. Seven more games of nonsense on the pitch and his stupid pressers & interviews. A pasting against Spurs on November 8th to be his last act with us.
One of Berrada’s key themes is:
Long-Term Vision & Sustainability:
A shift away from short-term thinking to focus on building a sustainable future for the club.
Well, if the long-term goal is to win the 2028 Championship, then the project is right on track. Real Madrid — or any serious European giant — would've kicked Amorim out ages ago. The longer this embarrassment is allowed to continue, the more the whole thing starts to feel like a parody of a football club.
Long-Term Vision & Sustainability:
A shift away from short-term thinking to focus on building a sustainable future for the club.
Well, if the long-term goal is to win the 2028 Championship, then the project is right on track. Real Madrid — or any serious European giant — would've kicked Amorim out ages ago. The longer this embarrassment is allowed to continue, the more the whole thing starts to feel like a parody of a football club.
This is from the daily mail, quoted by BBC sport, FYI.
Surely it wont be free to sack him after that date? Is the offset amount worth no European football potentially next season
Not once we start doing pointless midweek friendlies in Saudi and other far flung places for a couple of million quid a pop
Hardly pointless if it's making money the club desperately needs. We have to cash in on the global brand value, otherwise it's financial ruin eventually with that ridiculous debt the Glazers have saddled the club with.
Save £12 million in order to miss out on £100 million. INEOS economics.
What would it cost for us to have another season in the bottom half of the table?
I think last night was the first time I felt genuinely depressed about United and they weren't even playing.
That Bayern -Chelsea game was played at a high and entertaining standard that I can't see United reaching anytime soon
That Bayern -Chelsea game was played at a high and entertaining standard that I can't see United reaching anytime soon
One of the moments I thought we were close to reaching that level again was when we beat Barca in the Europa League.
Under Ole. A lot of the player change in the years since has been in the wrong direction, and we thought many of the players then weren't good enough! That's without talking about the coach
It seemed to all collapse after the carabou cup win, i assume that was the same period
Personally- i don't think there is a big difference between the squad if you compare the players individually. But as a team they are far better. The intensity starts from midfield and they invested heavily .
Depressing