Club ownership | Senior management team talk

Phil said:
Are they pleased with the manager? Despite an overwhelming amount of evidence, they have a feeling he's going to turn it around maybe?
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They don't want to admit their failings. Particularly wilcox and berrada whose reputations are heavily dependent on amorim being a success
 
If Wilcox and Uncle Fester think Amorim should keep his job they should lose theirs too.
 
They're stuck in this mindset of the club failing the previous managers so he'll get more than a fair crack at the job.

You can just see how a CL place is well up for grabs this season but will probably slip away soon for us unless he can drop his system sooner. If he doesn't want to adapt then we have to cut him lose.
 
Anyone who had any experience of INEOS’s previous sporting ventures be it in football or cycling did warn us that they have no idea what they’re doing.

Turns out they were right.
 
dannyrhinos89 said:
These are showing signs they aren't serious or they'd binned him off months ago.

It's not reactionary at this point it's a decision thats long over due and welcomed by all.
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Yup. It's been over a year of Amorim now. There's more than enough evidence as to what his 523 Man Utd looks like and it ain't good.

If they're happy to stick with that it says it all. Cos the likes of Real Madrid and Barcelona would have chucked Amorim ages ago. It just shows where our standards are relative to the clubs we used to measure ourselves against.
 
So, it’s only taken them until we draw at home to the worst team in the history of the PL to point a finger in anger. Welcome to the party, Jim.
 
#07 said:
Yup. It's been over a year of Amorim now. There's more than enough evidence as to what his 523 Man Utd looks like and it ain't good.

If they're happy to stick with that it says it all. Cos the likes of Real Madrid and Barcelona would have chucked Amorim ages ago. It just shows where our standards are relative to the clubs we used to measure ourselves against.
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He would have been sacked three times by now at Madrid, Bayern or Barca. Spurs sacked their manager who beat Amorim in the final, our standards are nowhere near a big club. Even clubs like Forest and West Ham have standards. Potter had similar stats to Amorim when he was sacked. Forest didn’t waste their time giving Ange any more time. Moyes has outperformed Amorim since joining Everton.
 
At this point just get Conte in. He will guarantee a top 4 finish. It will end up in turmoil but the club desperately needs Champions League cash now. The fact we are going after the best managers in the Netherlands and Portugal just about sums up the lack of ambition by the club.
 
Josep Dowling said:
At this point just get Conte in. He will guarantee a top 4 finish. It will end up in turmoil but the club desperately needs Champions League cash now. The fact we are going after the best managers in the Netherlands and Portugal just about sums up the lack of ambition by the club.
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Why would he join this mess?
 
Josep Dowling said:
At this point just get Conte in. He will guarantee a top 4 finish. It will end up in turmoil but the club desperately needs Champions League cash now. The fact we are going after the best managers in the Netherlands and Portugal just about sums up the lack of ambition by the club.
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Why would Conte leave title-challenging Napoli to join us right now?
 
Red & White said:
So, it’s only taken them until we draw at home to the worst team in the history of the PL to point a finger in anger. Welcome to the party, Jim.
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Those pics are from our 1-4 away at Wolves early December, supposedly right after their 1-1 goal right before half-time.
 
Matriac said:
Those pics are from our 1-4 away at Wolves early December, supposedly right after their 1-1 goal right before half-time.
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Ah. So, it’ll be high fives all around after tonight then. I would love to know what those 3 genuinely think about how things are going.
 
Malone_Post said:
Anyone who had any experience of INEOS’s previous sporting ventures be it in football or cycling did warn us that they have no idea what they’re doing.

Turns out they were right.
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Yes, everything at the club is mediocre. The manager, upper management, Wilcox, the scouts, the squad. We deserve nothing more than another 8th spot finish.
 
Following a data driven approach?

Let's take a look at that win percentage...
 
#07 said:
Yup. It's been over a year of Amorim now. There's more than enough evidence as to what his 523 Man Utd looks like and it ain't good.

If they're happy to stick with that it says it all. Cos the likes of Real Madrid and Barcelona would have chucked Amorim ages ago. It just shows where our standards are relative to the clubs we used to measure ourselves against.
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You don't have to mention clubs like those. Most clubs would've already kicked his ass down the road months ago.
 
It’s unprecedented the money we’ve lost when you think about it. These INEOS people were brought in to steady the ship and look at what they’ve accomplished:

1. The Ten Hag payout
2. Dan Ashworth we paid Newcastle compensation only to fire him quickly and have to pay him out
3. Hiring Amorim. Compensation paid to Sporting
4. Missing out on champions league cost at minimum 20 million.
5. Finishing 16th cost us over 15 million if you assume we would have finished 8th.
6. Most likely no champions league again this season.
 
Skills said:
Forget Sesko, it's Cunha who I'm more worried about. His production is just as bad as Seskos, and he's just a horrible team mate in general so he doesn't offer much to the teams general play.
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The whole transfer window looks bad.

Lammens might be okay. The other three don't look worth the money to me.

Cunha, if he starts playing more selflessly, is the one I'm most optimistic about. He's shown positive signs with his dribbling and the few times he's kept the ball under pressure.

Sesko and Mbeumo look so poor from a technical pov. Mbeumo gets a pass because he's scored a bit this season, but once the goals dry up, which they did, his terrible general play is too big of a problem to ignore.

This new structure seem to have the same blind spot to press resistant players as our last, and we're going nowhere until we start prioritising these players.
 
Maybe these clowns should stop offering stupid bloody money to managers then compensation would be lower
 
Yagami said:
The whole transfer window looks bad.

Lammens might be okay. The other three don't look worth the money to me.

Cunha, if he starts playing more selflessly, is the one I'm most optimistic about. He's shown positive signs with his dribbling and the few times he's kept the ball under pressure.

Sesko and Mbeumo look so poor from a technical pov. Mbeumo gets a pass because he's scored a bit this season, but once the goals dry up, which they did, his terrible general play is too big of a problem to ignore.

This new structure seem to have the same blind spot to press resistant players as our last, and we're going nowhere until we start prioritising these players.
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We needed a striker and 2 centre mids in the window, just like i thought. Cunha and Mbeumo failing to live up to expectations so far makes things even worse. Its looks like they hoped the attack would carry the team and it is back firing so far. Bruno and Amad may not be the ideal Amorim 10's but they would be serviceable enough to get us where we need to be if they had 2 capable centre mids behind them.
 
So far they have been wasting money just like woody. They only difference is that Woody would have sacked Teg Hag after tye FA cup win and Amorim sacked before or after the Europa loss. I cant believe that Woody has turned to be more proactive than these clowns.
 
#07 said:
Yup. It's been over a year of Amorim now. There's more than enough evidence as to what his 523 Man Utd looks like and it ain't good.

If they're happy to stick with that it says it all. Cos the likes of Real Madrid and Barcelona would have chucked Amorim ages ago. It just shows where our standards are relative to the clubs we used to measure ourselves against.
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Yeah, their lack of action is infuriating. They better have a press release today
 
The ultimate buck stops with the Glazers. The cancer at the heart of the club. INEOS are their enablers and fall guys. Useful idiots. Amorim is theirs.

Glazers may well have been gone by now if Jim Radcliffe hasn’t bought in.

Nothing will be sorted until the glazers are out and switching manager will do nothing to solve it. We lurch from one impotent manager to another just as we seem to lurch from one ineffective striker to the next
 
flappyjay said:
So far they have been wasting money just like woody. They only difference is that Woody would have sacked Teg Hag after tye FA cup win and Amorim sacked before or after the Europa loss. I cant believe that Woody has turned to be more proactive than these clowns.
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Woody knows nothing about football, but he is still far more competent than those bunch and that says alot.
 
Escobar said:
Yeah, their lack of action is infuriating. They better have a press release today
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Oh you will here the standard line leaked to the press. We retain our trust in the manager and his efforts to drive the team for future success.
 
INEOS should be financially bullying the Swiss league yet Lausanne sits at 9th place. Nice FC should easily make it to top 3 yet they are in 13th place. Can't we just admit that they aren't really good in football?
 
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