I think I'm now at an all time low with my belief in the club. I no longer care who manages us next as we're not building towards anything and any idea that we were is long gone. I think its more a case of now just keep rolling the dice and spend the cash, at some point it may work.
Club ownership | Senior management team talk
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In the latest edition of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood), Imran (@Annihilate Now!) & Jamie (@Vault Dweller) celebrate a fantastic victory as Manchester United won 2-0 in the Derby. They celebrate the changes Carrick has made, discuss our new coaching team and find time to play a Stupid Game. Enjoy!
“Let me do it for 6 months. Get me a couple of young coaches. If Martin O’Neill can do it, I’ll show him..”
Wilcox was only bumped because Jim didn’t like the DoF that was hired and sacked him.
Wilcox should be released to do the job that he was recruited for. He wasn’t recruited to be a DoF.
We need an experienced DoF to handhold this crowd. Someone of the ilk of Campos. Someone who’s not afraid to talk back to Berrada and Jimbo. Those 2 need to leave their egos at the door and learn from him.
Get a proper experienced, well respected coach to work with him.
If that takes a year, then get a temp for a year and make it clear that it’s temp
Wilcox should be released to do the job that he was recruited for. He wasn’t recruited to be a DoF.
We need an experienced DoF to handhold this crowd. Someone of the ilk of Campos. Someone who’s not afraid to talk back to Berrada and Jimbo. Those 2 need to leave their egos at the door and learn from him.
Get a proper experienced, well respected coach to work with him.
If that takes a year, then get a temp for a year and make it clear that it’s temp
PSG, Bayern, Juventus, Barca, and Madrid all sack managers and it hasn’t impacted their reputations.
Usual ABU shite. Clubs all over the world sack their managers constantly and don't get half the media attention.
Agreed
That’s kind of telling. I suppose that’s what you get when you’ve got businessmen running it like a business
True as this may be, I dont buy this into a reason for Amorim being sacked. He was shite and we let him play 3 at the back for so long.
He said in his very first interview that to win time he needs to win games, and he probably should have seen the sack some way before he was actually axed.
Shouldn't this be "Former Porto/Chelsea/Real and anywhere else Mourinho went" assistant Rui Faria?
Whilst this is true, the image he used had a Man Utd crest - he's clearly having a dig at us.
Bloody hell I'm not with it today. How did I miss that?
I think you will realise that every manager has been backed with signings... show me another business that does that blindly? Usually you have to earn it.
The managers at Manutd are paid top dollar.. not working for minimum wage or anything.
Sure, they are promised things and the board has not delivered but the managers also come in saying, they want us to compete for the title?
There is no football manager that gets backed with 100% everything they want.. even Pep.
Jose, Ole, Ten Hag, Amorim have all been backed and none of them produced what they said they would.
I genuinely think for majority of the fan base feel the same. There is nothing to indicate it’s any better.
Oh yeah absolutely. I wasn’t linking the two things really,
Amorim deserved to go. A coach that can’t watch penalties for pity’s sake
If you see my posts in the berrada thread you’ll know that I thought Amorim was backed and should have been been able to get better results
I was talking generally about the “businessmen”, not defending Amorim, he deserved to go before now
Yep, this is what it feels like. It is difficult to build something though... Manutd is such a big club which comes with so much pressure.
The board will always get criticised for getting things wrong but we also have to understand we do not have a bottomless pit of money to go and get a new team.
If you look at the who should manage us thread... the highest % is 21 which is Luis Enrique... probably one of the hardest manager to get. Someone who has a job and won the CL last season.... Now, how realistic is it to get him?
It just shows the lack of top coaches available at the moment, so anyone we get will be a gamble.
But if the alternative is 100% Glazers ownership?
I doubt they saved up all the money they got from INEOS to buy the shares again. That money was most likely used to pay off other debts including their other floundering businesses.
Doesn’t that give him a better perspective to judge United.
Well the Glazers do own the club...and appear to be perfectly competent business people who don't make knee-jerk emotional decisions. Perhaps you should consider asking them to get hands-on in fixing the Utd structure? Radical notion, I'm sure....
Wonder what their ownership of United is a dry run for.
Luckhurst with the Thick of It reference 
This current chapter is on them if we believe the Glazers really did hand them full control and have no input at all, but whatever the overall malaise of the club is on the Glazers x 100.
They are willfully hiding behind Ineos and it's working a treat.
The only mystery is why SJR let this happen, as I thought he'd have to have full control by now for it to make any sense.
SJR - "Eventually, if it reached the extent that the Glazer family have been abused, then I'd have to say, 'look, enough's enough guys, let somebody else do this'"
He's already said what needs to happen for him to go.
No I'm not.
I don't see any point in protesting the ownership of Man Utd, but people do it at odd intervals. It's difficult to see what the point is.
I can't stand anyone around the club at the moment, but the coaching team need to take responsibility as well. We were terrible for a long long time, and this seems to blame it on transfers or interference about tactics, but why weren't Amorim and his able to show how they can improve players and play decent football. I don't accept this to be honest.
I don’t like the protest at this time. There is enough wrong with the club but this gives even more turmoil. What is the point right now? I also don’t understand all the supporters of Amorim now. He was awful and should have been sacked ages ago. The board tried to support him as long as possible because they didn’t want to go back in the sack cycle, as they supported Ten Hag too long as well. Try to get some peace at the club now with Fletcher, Ole or Carrick (or all three together) till the end of the season and start again. Maybe with a new DoF first. I’m not a supporter of the board or Glazers or Jim at all, but protesting doesn’t help us any further at the moment and gives even more unrest everywhere inside and outside the club.
Luckhurst with the Thick of It reference
So true. This United way has become a joke all whilst we moved so far away from that anyhow. All our ex players talk some bostalgic crap and live in 1999. Time to move on for good
Yeah we desperately need to appoint experienced DOF and proven coach, if only we could get two for the price of one from PSG everything would be great
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Another reason our owners aren’t good enough:
In the space of a calendar year City sign an entire starting XI worth of players totalling over £500m of spend to add to an already title challenging squad.
The lack of investment in midfield is absolutely criminal. Player recruitment or lack of a serious overhaul is the thing we have to sort before any manager has any hope in hell.
In the space of a calendar year City sign an entire starting XI worth of players totalling over £500m of spend to add to an already title challenging squad.
The lack of investment in midfield is absolutely criminal. Player recruitment or lack of a serious overhaul is the thing we have to sort before any manager has any hope in hell.
Not even just that, I highly doubt we are some outlier in terms of the number of permanent managers that we have had since 2013. Additionally, paying out the managers contract is not something unique to us.
Two things. Firstly, City have a first class recruitment team, including the new DOF Viana who they signed from Sporting last summer. As a club we are still light years behind. Second thing, we have no money. City have huge funds from oil washing and have cheated the system. United, due to the first point on recruitment where we are shit, have wasted the best part of £1bn on poor signings, fees plus salary combined. This is not about one area of the pitch, our recruitment is 1 out of 10 over the last decade.
As for finances, our total debts are at record levels. We had I believe a £350m debt facility arranged to fund spending, I believe around £100m is left. So that plus sales is our kitty for this window and next. If we are not in Europe next season it looks bad.
Read this yesterday and found it quite interesting.
https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2026/0108/1552040-manchester-united-toxic-workplace-research/
Particularly this piece from Eriksen.
Late last year in an interview with the Sunday Times, former United player Christian Eriksen spoke about how the players felt after being branded "the worst team, maybe, in the history of Manchester United" by Amorim after a loss to Brighton. "I don't think that helped the players at all. Some stuff you can say inside and it's not too clever to say outside, to put extra pressure and put an extra label on the players who were already trying to do their best… if he's right or wrong, whatever, but I think for us it was a bit of like 'oh, here we go again. Another headline'."
Whole club is a toxic mess and it needs root and branch changes.
Yeah, it has to happen, constantly being compared to what happened before doesn't help anyone. It's all that back in my day stuff.
Time for the club to pick itself up and move on, you can acknowledge the past but trying to recreate it and relive it is not going to work.
https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2026/0108/1552040-manchester-united-toxic-workplace-research/
Particularly this piece from Eriksen.
Late last year in an interview with the Sunday Times, former United player Christian Eriksen spoke about how the players felt after being branded "the worst team, maybe, in the history of Manchester United" by Amorim after a loss to Brighton. "I don't think that helped the players at all. Some stuff you can say inside and it's not too clever to say outside, to put extra pressure and put an extra label on the players who were already trying to do their best… if he's right or wrong, whatever, but I think for us it was a bit of like 'oh, here we go again. Another headline'."
Whole club is a toxic mess and it needs root and branch changes.
Yeah, it has to happen, constantly being compared to what happened before doesn't help anyone. It's all that back in my day stuff.
Time for the club to pick itself up and move on, you can acknowledge the past but trying to recreate it and relive it is not going to work.
I think I'll be able to breathe a little when either/both Berrada and Wilcox are shown the door or demoted. Ashworth was right about pushing against Ruben's appointment. Where's the appraisal?
'Til then the new management continues to betray their incompetence in running a club, and especially Manchester United.
The protests should happen and keep happening because someone needs to shame the execs until they either resign or make sure someone competent is on board. Staying mum is useless
'Til then the new management continues to betray their incompetence in running a club, and especially Manchester United.
The protests should happen and keep happening because someone needs to shame the execs until they either resign or make sure someone competent is on board. Staying mum is useless
I'll give credit where it's due though, the recruitment under INEOS has been decidedly better than the past, and we have had far less howlers. Vivell, for instance, can take credit for Lammens who seems like a solid signing and good prospect for the future unlike Donarumma or Martinez.
This is the concern nowadays. In this day and age you dont have time to slowly build a side with 1 or 2 starters a season coming in and with the current ownership we dont have the spending power we once did. We will always just be playing catch up.
It's upsetting the way we went from the richest and one of the biggest clubs on the planet in the early 00s to this. The Glazers have destroyed an institution. We should've been building following the Ronaldo money but our money was off paying their interest, we let our competition catch up and then overtake and get out of sight