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Quite a few reports suggesting he wants Liverpool, City or Bayern job.
He is a scouser and reported over a year ago, the jobs he would want are Bayern, Madrid or Liverpool.
There are question marks over Slot at Liverpool.
It would take slot to finish outside of CL football before he would be sacked imo
He's not a scouser though. He's a Spanish midfielder that played for Liverpool for a bit. This isn't Gerrard/Carragher.
If we offered him a good contract and a reasonable level of control over key decisions, he'd be tempted.
I was talking about the summer. All those names are gettable. No big manager will come now because its midseason and we are looking for interims.
Let me ask you something. Are you happy with INEOS? Do you think they are competent and doing a good job?
Yeah and that's why they haven't used the words interim when the club officially announced last night. I bloody knew this was gonna happen and just shows nothing learnt from 7 years ago
Getting annoyed about a presumption based on a hypothetical situation is certainly a choice..
What big club has Di Zerbi managed?
Tuchel rejected us before
Enrique has a contract with PSG, how does that equal gettable?
I am not happy because we are not competing but I do understand the difficulties of a job...
I think there are many improvements made from previous regime to this.
INEOS need to at least enquire what kind of money it would take to buy Enrique out of final year, if it's too much then straight away pick up the phone to Alonso and so on until we find someone interested on shortlist
The reason we have an interim is so they can have these conversations with managers.
I suspect they will have a look at all the available candidates, make contact with ones in a job too.
Yep. Especially a hypothetical situation where we finish fourth place
The tweet said interim head coach did it not?
No, his official title is Head Coach, but it's until the end of the season, so it's interim in all but name
Hope you are right
Oh to have even a whiff of a dilemma if we were to finish 4th.Yep. Especially a hypothetical situation where we finish fourth place
Even if we went on a title charge they wouldn't give him the gig longer term.
INEOS would be terrified of the optics of not learning from the Ole appointment
I'm glad you are so confident about that
So if they used the word interim, it would have meant he's definitely gone in the summer?
They probably want to avoid everyone calling him the interim head coach all the time, and it makes sense.
He'll have finished 3 seasons (a long stint by continental standards) and has already won what they needed to win (the CL). I think he'd be open to offers.
I would absolutely love United to have this decision to make - when more likely we are heading for a ~ 7th placed finish
Be great if we are able to find out come May!
This is very different from 2019. Ole had proven up to and including the PSG game that he could be a decent and occasionally great manager.
He should have gone the 2021 Europa final but I'd maintain, it wasn't the worst decision keeping him on after the initial interim performance.
Being fundamentally against Carrick getting the permanent job regardless of what happens between now and May would be as equally as wrong headed as giving him the job automatically because he finishes the season with Champions League qualification.
He's just won the CL last season so it stands to reason he'd want to take a step up and work with the likes of Dalot.
Hes not a scouser, just played for them.
Slot could stay if he gets cl, pep may be staying at city or they could get Enrique and Kompany is doing well at Bayern. Is Alonso just going to stay unemployed as he cant have one of them 3?
If Carrick gets CL you just know they will keep him on while ignoring better options. Its written in the stars
If Alonso really wanted the Liverpool job he could have left Leverkusen when Klopp left Liverpool. Instead he spent another year at Leverkusen. Everyone knew he was going to Madrid. So maybe that Liverpool connection isn’t as strong as some people seem to suggest.
The best in class team will look at dozens of coaches and all manner of data, and probably land on Southgate. These guys have no idea what they’re doing.
This is what I'm dreading so far their options at best in class have been piss poor.
Yeah I can see it coming from a mile off
I dont think they are going to wait that long to appoint the next permanent manager, I expect INEOS will want that sorted as soon as possible so they can start planning for the summer transfer window
One would surely expect that yeah but at the end of the day it's INEOS so you never know
To be honest they never soecified what class they were talking about.
I don't actually have a problem with them not selling Bruno. The bigger problem was hiring Amorim. You will never be successful with someone that dogmatic. Even Guardiola has evolved City's style multiple times now to accommodate the players at his disposal. You can have general principles, Fergie always did for instance, yet he was the master of switching things up to suit the players at the time. With Amorim though, it always seemed to go beyond that with not only his style of play but his positional play was always set in stone no matter who he had available to him at the time. That's what the upper management have to answer for. Why would anyone want to hire someone like that? It's not as if he was hiding it either, as he was saying it himself from the get go.
I think too much emphasis is placed on formation. The formation is not really the system or style of play. Example during the 90s pretty much the majority of teams across Europe played a 442 but there was a huge difference between United, Ajax, Ac Milan and Wimbledon.
I think Amorim did actually adapt his system a fair bit at United to be more defensively solid but people didn’t realise because they focused on the formation. But at the same time Amorim also started this season with Bruno and Casemiro as our CM, you’ll be surprised how many dropped points have come from mistakes related to one of either.
Yes of course far too many put too much emphasis on the formation, however, that's not I said. Everything about Amorim was inflexible and he said so himself. Structurally we were very rigid, and that's not even talking about the formation.
I never saw any structural changes that Amorim made since he started. What adaptations did he make? Also, you blame the club for Amorim playing Bruno and Casemiro in a two, yet he's the one who forced us to prioritize forwards this summer, due to him selling/loaning most of them.
I guess that's why the Glazers are billionaires and most people aren't. They leveraged debt to buy a £700 million and now it's worth ~£6 Billion.
Utd is talking about building a brand new stadium. How would this be funded without taking on debt?
No one is buying us for that money so we are saddled with debt and shitty owners. Also we are shit on the pitch too... And it will get worse.
Of course it's not. He didn't exactly leave them under the best circumstances.
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Christ, Southgate's name being bought up by the fanbase yet again.
Look I don't have much faith in the ownership of this club but I'm fairly sure, after having a fair few opportunities to move for the former England manager, *cough* like this past fudging week, they would've done so by now if they were really interested.
I guess the Southgate paranioa amongst the fanbase will continue to be present until we bring in the next lamb to the slaughter though.
Look I don't have much faith in the ownership of this club but I'm fairly sure, after having a fair few opportunities to move for the former England manager, *cough* like this past fudging week, they would've done so by now if they were really interested.
I guess the Southgate paranioa amongst the fanbase will continue to be present until we bring in the next lamb to the slaughter though.
Also those jobs are somewhat secure at the minute, are we to believe Alonso will just put his career on hold because he only wants to manage a few clubs?
We need to do whatever we can to make him open to the idea of coming here, even if we do not eventually choose him. He is a talented manager and needs to be an option.
I'd hazard a guess that Southgate won't take on any other managerial job.