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They couldn't be that silly


They must be aware he doesn't want to come as is either staying or replacing Pep at City and they want to save face.
If they would honestly rather a mid table premier league manager than one of the current best managers in the world I would honestly give up
 
They must be aware he doesn't want to come as is either staying or replacing Pep at City and they want to save face.
If they would honestly rather a mid table premier league manager than one of the current best managers in the world I would honestly give up

I mean that's our current transfer strategy with players so I can see them using that logic for managers as well. Would be highly annoying
 
They've been up for sale since May last year, he's had to drop the price

There will always be people who won’t accept Jim is just not good at owning football clubs. They should close their eyes and imagine he’s just some American billionaire who partnered with the glazer.
 
Yet they hired Amorim.
And that’s why they could frame Enrique as being too big a risk.

IMO Enrique wouldn’t choose United because of the mess we are, and wouldn’t want to damage his rep if he failed.

His stock is sky high right now.
 
Yet they hired Amorim.
ETH as well. Jose didn't have PL when he first came to Chelsea. Wenger when he came to Arsenal. We are run by idiots. Not sure it is having PL experience that matters as more about big club experience and what that brings. Small club experience in the PL does not mean you could handle the pressure of being Manchester United's manager.
 
The Glazers must have been watching in dismay over the past 18 months. They could not possibly have imagined that INEOS would be so much worse at managing the football operations than they (and Ed Woodward) had been, but here we are. Would love to be a fly on the wall of this exec committee summit - sounds a bit like Ratcliffe has been summoned to Manchester for a ticking off.
 
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The Glazers don’t know how to run the club and some of them couldn’t care less. Their their hiremen did a bad job, so they might have thought INEOS have a plan and the football men they hired might have done a better job. INEOS paid quite a big fee for their share, so anyone would think that INEOS also want to succeed with their investment. if things keep getting worse, the Glazers may have to rethink about INEOS running the football operation.

Unless it starts hitting the club value, likely the Glazers wouldn’t be concerned.

Makes sense. I wonder how legally baked into the deal football operations control is and for how long. Unlikely that INEOS bought the shares without guarantees but gets riskier for the Glazers to give up such control the longer the agreement was for. I suppose they have the drag along clause so they can sell up if it's going very badly.
 
The Glazers must have been watching in dismay over the past 18 months. They could not possibly have imagined that INEOS would be so much worse at managing the football operations than they (and Ed Woodward) had been, but here we are. Would love to be a fly on the wall of this exec committee summit - sounds a bit like Ratcliffe has been summoned to Manchester for a ticking off.
The Glazers were happy to let Fergie run the club until 2013 and put in zero effort to any succesion planning.

Every single issue at the club eventually comes down to their ownership and how they took over the club.

People need to remember that they are the main enemy.
 
And that’s why they could frame Enrique as being too big a risk.

IMO Enrique wouldn’t choose United because of the mess we are, and wouldn’t want to damage his rep if he failed.

His stock is sky high right now.
He had tricky situations before, both at Barca and Span NT
 
I still don't understand why the Glazers even allowed Ratcliffe to run the club in the first place. It seems very strange to me to let minority owners run your business without being able to take control back. What if they completely tank it? Do they literally have no other option but to make the deal they did? I think I'd prefer selling the club in full for a knock down price than giving up control to a stranger. They can't be too happy with how things have gone so far. It's arguably been our worst period since SAF retired.
They had run it into the ground already, now Sir jim takes all the heat for them
 
ETH as well. Jose didn't have PL when he first came to Chelsea. Wenger when he came to Arsenal. We are run by idiots. Not sure it is having PL experience that matters as more about big club experience and what that brings. Small club experience in the PL does not mean you could handle the pressure of being Manchester United's manager.

The vast majority of coaches who have won the league did so with no PL experience prior to coming into the league.
 
The Glazers must have been watching in dismay over the past 18 months. They could not possibly have imagined that INEOS would be so much worse at managing the football operations than they (and Ed Woodward) had been, but here we are. Would love to be a fly on the wall of this exec committee summit - sounds a bit like Ratcliffe has been summoned to Manchester for a ticking off.

Those muppets can’t tick anyone off, they were so incompetent they had to hand over control to a minority owner. All of this stems from them and we’d likely be even worse off if they were still somehow in charge. That lot are so dumb they couldn’t even control the finances, I’d imagine any meeting would be incredibly bland and full of people oblivious to how incompetent they are.
 
Those muppets can’t tick anyone off, they were so incompetent they had to hand over control to a minority owner. All of this stems from them and we’d likely be even worse off if they were still somehow in charge. That lot are so dumb they couldn’t even control the finances, I’d imagine any meeting would be incredibly bland and full of people oblivious to how incompetent they are.
I would never defend them in a million years, however we lost control of finances pre INEOS
 
Anyone else find it nauseating how we call them head coaches but have them participate in more interviews than training sessions? Why does Carrick need to sit down with Sky Sports and articulate his reflections and aspirations twice a week before we've even played a game under him? I'm sick of the amount of talking they're contractually obliged to do and how that seems to overshadow the football.

We're barely have any games left to play because we got dumped out of all competitions by Spurs Grimsby, and Welbeck's Brighton. How about Wilcox turns up for those PR commitments instead and stays quiet in shame for a change, so we can let our 'head coach', you know, 'coach' the most underperforming footballing side in world football?

I was sick of listening to Amorim and now I'm already sick of watching Carrick lounge on a couch and podcast away. How about we try football instead of the Joe Rogan experience, eh, you feckers?
 
I would never defend them in a million years, however we lost control of finances pre INEOS

That’s my point the Glazers couldn’t even run the club financially let alone everything else so they can’t take anyone to track over anything.
 
This lot cannot be allowed to get away with what they've done to this season.

They will be wanting Michael Carrick's magic to rub off on them. Instead we should be asking why they stuck with Amorim for so long when it was obvious his tactics didn't work for our players.

If they had brought Carrick in after Everton we'd be walking top four. If they had brought him in after Grimsby...

...would we be in a title race?

Refusing to accept they made a mistake has derailed our entire season. Even if Carrick does a madness and gets us Champions League we should never let them live it down.
 
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I hope this new leadership understands that giving young players who have still loads to prove star player contracts is not the way. If it's true that Mbeumo and Cunha are on about 160-180 then Mainoo should be no more than 120/130.

What is Amad earning?
 
I hope this new leadership understands that giving young players who have still loads to prove star player contracts is not the way. If it's true that Mbeumo and Cunha are on about 160-180 then Mainoo should be no more than 120/130.

What is Amad earning?

I think Amad was reported at 128k a week.
 
I hope this new leadership understands that giving young players who have still loads to prove star player contracts is not the way. If it's true that Mbeumo and Cunha are on about 160-180 then Mainoo should be no more than 120/130.

What is Amad earning?

I would agree with this but it's also important to remember Mainoo has played at the euros and has been in the first team for 3 years now. This isn't a januzaj situation.
 
I would agree with this but it's also important to remember Mainoo has played at the euros and has been in the first team for 3 years now. This isn't a januzaj situation.
He has been held back long enough be Amorim. I expect he will increasingly become pivotal to the team. Give him a fair deal and make him feel loved. He will repay us many times over.
 
Fantastic news to divert away from the fact we are wasting our chances for CL football next season by ignoring this winter window.
Not wasting window if the midfielders we want aren't gonna be available until the summer, buying for the sake of it has got us into this mess in first place. INEOS will start the midfield rebuild then so just gonna have to go with what we have until May end of story.
 
Not wasting window if the midfielders we want aren't gonna be available until the summer, buying for the sake of it has got us into this mess in first place. INEOS will start the midfield rebuild then so just gonna have to go with what we have until May end of story.
That’s absolute bullocks. With the state of our cm there are always players United can sign either primary long term first teamers, players to come in as first teamers who will ultimately become rotation options next season, or even loan signings. All will improve our chances of cm football next year.
 
That’s absolute bullocks. With the state of our cm there are always players United can sign either primary long term first teamers, players to come in as first teamers who will ultimately become rotation options next season, or even loan signings. All will improve our chances of cm football next year.
OK so name some them if you are that certain, don't you think the likes of Loftus-Cheek or Neves (wages too high) are not just short term fixes?
 
Safe to say they once again sacked a failing manager many months too late and cost the club by their lack of leadership